I think you do not realise how little that team of players has played, bar a couple of people the NZ team has played 24 games as group.
England has so many Injuries to coeshen is not there at all.
That sad past few games before this they have played in the wrong direction and with the wrong style which is a coaching error.
Bar lots of errors today which made the score worse then it was, there were very good signs there tbh.
The style of play and they way they were playing tactically was a LOT LOT better then it has been and the right way to play. More play time, less injuries and less errors and England could be up there.
You didnt seemt to bothered about Mr Robinson last week, all of a sudden hes the problem.
England, both managerially and playing staff, are an amateur setup compared to the likes of Australia and as for the All Blacks, their isnt a comparison, England are plodding kick and clappers who need to go back to the drawing board and look at where they are going wrong. To be beaten by the All Blacks was bad, but to be beaten by the argentinians at home shows England are in a mess.
first off, who said he was a problem, who has had a change in mind?
Not me
Even if its not his fault, the point is he is the only person of the old coaching staff etc still there, all the other got sacked.
England are still loosing and to teams they should be beating even if they are playing badly and that is a problem and changes will and need to be made even symbolic and one of those is to get rid of the head coach for new blood and a change in direction.
Any sport, any team this can and has happened and this is no different.
Englands performance agaisnt new zealand was promising, there were signs not seen in past games over the year and last, it improved but there was a lot of errors and that needed to be sorted.
This was not, they made even more so the coaching to deal with that was not there and well documented on the rugby review shows and papers.
Along with this you have no leaders behind the pack, in rugby you do not and can not have just one it is impossible.
And you have hodgson, not kicking to well but leading the backs, taking him off not only lowers his head for the future but also causes more leadership problems which showed and again documented by analysts and media pundits all saying the same thing.
The Players are there, the skill is there somewhere but the style of play currently is poor and the concepts is terrible. The English pack was the most feared in the world and while not the best recyclers of the ball or the fastest it was at least clean ball, well protected.
With the changes to the squeeze ball rules being used just after the world cup while everyone else adopted the correct approach (I think the welsh being one of the best to adapt) England could not change or sort it out and that is a coaching error.
Club and country its been an issue
Robinson has never been what people consider a good minded coach and the passion has not been around since he has been there. He is not terrible but his direction is not right, even with new staff and new leaders above him he still makes the calls and the final choices and no matter what he will go.
Question is will it be this week before the South African match or after, but he will be going.