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Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: brummie on August 22, 2006, 22:56:49 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/5273540.stm

they did it LOL  :D
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: snellgrove on August 22, 2006, 23:20:24 PM
Wahey, they did it :D

nice bit of kit that is.
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Serious on August 22, 2006, 23:21:44 PM
Thing needs a bump start to 30mph before it will go by itself though.

Posted an article about this some time ago in another thread, good news they managed it though and getting a JCB to that sort of speed cant be mocked ;)
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: mr_roll on August 22, 2006, 23:24:05 PM
I neally crashed into a JCB once, due to tiredness.
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: knighty on August 22, 2006, 23:24:32 PM
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The previous diesel land speed record is 236mph (380km/h), set in August 1973


1973 ? rofl

niot exactly that hard to beat then ?
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: mr_roll on August 23, 2006, 08:22:40 AM
Quote from: knighty
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The previous diesel land speed record is 236mph (380km/h), set in August 1973


1973 ? rofl

niot exactly that hard to beat then ?


Maybe that was a machine ahead of its time? But I doubt this one will be beaten for some time.
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: funkychicken9000 on August 23, 2006, 09:32:31 AM
I reckon it could be, easily.  I just dont think anyone else can be arsed to pour the time & money into it.
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on August 23, 2006, 10:25:47 AM
lol... fk that i wanna see an actual jcb do that speed :)
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: bear on August 23, 2006, 10:32:00 AM
How big are the engines, torque etc. compared to the R10 ?
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Serious on August 23, 2006, 18:45:36 PM
Quote from: brummie
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/5273540.stm

they did it LOL  :D


Did it again too...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/staffordshire/5279268.stm

Quote from: bear
How big are the engines, torque etc. compared to the R10 ?


Their site on the web ;)

http://www.jcbdieselmax.com/html/home.php
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Cypher on August 23, 2006, 19:08:57 PM
Engine Spec Sheet (PDF).  Its the JCB 444.

http://electriclemon.hosted.pipemedia.net/uploads/general/JCB444%20Spec%20Sheet.pdf

So in short, the stock version comes up a bit short, against the V12 TDI of the R10, tons of torque mind.  But when you consider what the dieselmax was designed to do on the Bonneville salt flats and what the R10 has to do on the track, they didnt need/want a thumping V10.  For one it only has a 9 litre fuel tank.  
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Maldonado on August 23, 2006, 19:13:32 PM
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"The car has still got loads to give. I throttled back on the second run and we havent even used sixth gear yet, so the car can still go faster."


lol
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: bear on August 23, 2006, 19:16:15 PM
Not bad 1500 Nm in one engine the R10 gives 1100 Nm
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Deaths Head on August 23, 2006, 19:26:50 PM
"The heart of the Audi R10 TDI is a completely new V12 TDI engine with a cubic capacity of 5.5 litres ? the maximum permitted at Le Mans. Audi ventures into previously unexplored diesel-engine terrain with power exceeding 650 hp and torque of more than 1100 Newton metres from the V12 power plant."

"The results of the JCB DIESELMAX engine development work are truly impressive and the headline figures speak for themselves: with each delivering peak power of 750hp and torque of 1500Nm, the engines are over five times the power of the production version and at 150hp/litre, they exceed even motorsports applications as the world?s highest specific power diesel car engines."
Title: 328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Mark on August 23, 2006, 22:32:37 PM
Quote from: bear
Not bad 1500 Nm in one engine the R10 gives 1100 Nm


Scanias biggest monster currently gives well over twice that !
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: snellgrove on August 24, 2006, 12:58:37 PM
Yes, but Scanias are built for torque and have quite a few more litres

last time I looked out of curiosity on their site, iirc they have some 16 litre V8s!

Thats 2 litres per cylinder.. completely built for torque, not bhp & revs.

The dieselmax must be a good balance of bhp & torque because they cant rely on 18 or whatever gears to keep the engine in the powerband - it needs to rev higher happily.
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Mark on August 25, 2006, 09:19:33 AM
Well, the good old masters of Diesel have done it again.

PSA are producing a 5.5l diesel with more torque (1300Nm), and more power (700bhp) than the Audi effort! And its going in a road car !!



Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Mark on August 25, 2006, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: snellgrove
Yes, but Scanias are built for torque and have quite a few more litres

last time I looked out of curiosity on their site, iirc they have some 16 litre V8s!

Thats 2 litres per cylinder.. completely built for torque, not bhp & revs.

The dieselmax must be a good balance of bhp & torque because they cant rely on 18 or whatever gears to keep the engine in the powerband - it needs to rev higher happily.


No diesel is built to rev highly. That one in particular - 2 hours at full pelt. A tricked up lorry engine, that is built a lot heavier than a digger engine would sustain that kid of abuse longer.

Id say the speed was all high gearing - wonder if theyll do a VW and claim good mpg because they used an absurdly high top gear LOL
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: soopahfly on August 25, 2006, 18:12:00 PM
Well, Scania havent broken any world records for speed, so they dont get a say, even if they have diamond encrusted bores and run on 100% bull sperm.
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Mark on August 25, 2006, 20:06:56 PM
Scania/Saab have broken loads of speed records over the years...
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: soopahfly on August 26, 2006, 12:05:38 PM
Shouldnt that read :
Scania/Saab/GM?
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: Mark on August 26, 2006, 13:05:03 PM
Not when the records were set (I think)
Title: Re:328.767mph Diesel
Post by: soopahfly on August 26, 2006, 13:24:50 PM
Was going to say!
Cant see GM being bothered to set records tbh