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Title: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Binary Shadow on July 15, 2013, 23:49:36 PM
Well so much for german reliability 7 months after the last issue the car has broken again.

This time its the crank pulley that has given up (theres a rubber section to act as a vibration damper which has cried enough) meaning that there is no drive to the ancillaries, AC isn't an issue but I could use power steering and the alternator.. also the water pump is driven off that as well.. great, its effectively undriveable due to a small piece of rubber :(

around £300 for the part and looks to be a small nightmare to get to but will try DIY as I cant face the labour charges.

Luckily theres a heatwave on so I can get to work on the fireblade (hell yeah!!)

Bloody cars!
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 16, 2013, 23:14:23 PM
BMW do seem to be having issues lately with reliability. A friend bought a 5 series or something from his local dealership and the wheel bearing was rusted through (which they tried to claim was normal and would happen over time as they had changed the metal used in them) and he had a terrible condensation problem and they told him he had to drive around with the aircon on permanently :lol:

Suffice to say he emailed head office about this, quoting their marketing material about emissions, performance etc and this claim by the dealership that he's supposed to drive with the aircon permanently on - they emailed back to say the dealership was going to get an official bumming and they would refund him £3k, fix the car or give him a new one, and give him a courtesy car to spec or higher!
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: knighty on July 17, 2013, 01:36:23 AM
I know a guy who got a brand new 5series (the one with the 6litre V12)

he had a warning light on so took it back to the garage he got it from (had only been a few weeks)

they kept mucking him about... so he went in for a look, and went straight in the garage round the back... there was his car, no engine in it, on windscreen, no dash, most of the interior was out and it had no doors on !

no idea what the problem was, he told them to keep it and give him his monay back (he's still trying to get it iirc)#


I think BMW have a pretty good reputation... 100k used to be easy on all cars, now costs are so low and with all the new emissions laws etc.. 100k is past it for a lot of other cars (ford etc...)


have you done many miles binary ?  it's still pretty new to you so maybe it's still just the new car teething troubles that are normal ? - everyone ignores problems if they know they're going to get rid of there car soon :-o
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Binary Shadow on July 17, 2013, 19:02:10 PM
its on a 54 plate and done 131k miles  :muttley:
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: soopahfly on July 19, 2013, 08:24:38 AM
Same age and mileage as our accord and we've had 0 problems.  In fact all of my Japanese cars have been trouble free.
My X reg 54k Bora is riddled with problems, and the car had been looked after by it's previous owner.

I'm not buying German again.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: bytejunkie on July 19, 2013, 13:00:38 PM
Same age and mileage as our accord and we've had 0 problems.  In fact all of my Japanese cars have been trouble free.
My X reg 54k Bora is riddled with problems, and the car had been looked after by it's previous owner.

I'm not buying German again.

its done under 3k a year for its life. did you buy it off an old bloke who said it'd never been on the motorway? its only ever been to tescos and back!!! speed bumps and high revs with no clutch? etc etc?
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: soopahfly on July 19, 2013, 15:36:47 PM
Same age and mileage as our accord and we've had 0 problems.  In fact all of my Japanese cars have been trouble free.
My X reg 54k Bora is riddled with problems, and the car had been looked after by it's previous owner.

I'm not buying German again.

its done under 3k a year for its life. did you buy it off an old bloke who said it'd never been on the motorway? its only ever been to tescos and back!!! speed bumps and high revs with no clutch? etc etc?

It lived in London, and travelled to Majorca for 6 months of the year.  We know the previous owners.  It's an Auto too.
Germans car reputation is undeserved to be honest.  I don't know a single person with a german car that doesn't have issues.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 19, 2013, 17:22:22 PM
I think the problem is new cars in general, they have such narrow tolerances that its really down to the wire how long you can go before something packs in, whether its mechanical or electronic, or sometimes a bit of both with the hefty price tag to fix.

I do think Japanese cars are the more reliable though.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: matt5cott on July 19, 2013, 19:30:12 PM
My dads Merc is an 05 plate, he's had more issues in the few years he's had it than I have had in my entire 10 years with my MR2!

edit, he did get INSANELY lucky though, the turbo packed in (it's a diesel) with 10 days of the dealer warranty left.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Binary Shadow on July 19, 2013, 21:16:30 PM
Cars back together now :)

I don't think its brand specific, just modern design, mate has a civic which had issues with the brakes, then the clutch went and it needed a new fly wheel (dual mass) then it had starting issues, electronic needed battery disconnecting to reset everything to get it to start.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: M3ta7h3ad on July 22, 2013, 00:19:02 AM
You are at the same point as me on my golf basically stuff is starting to fail at 145k miles.

First it was the starter motor
Next the alternator pulley and the aux belt
Now its an indicator relay as well as bulbs are going one a week.

and its quickly approaching another timing belt change.



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Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: XEntity on July 22, 2013, 18:56:06 PM
Surely most cars are going to start having failures at this stage in their life, you'd kind of expect it on mechanical components like these?

Although I do agree that Jap cars over the years have given me the least grief :)
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: soopahfly on July 26, 2013, 12:57:14 PM
I think we'll start seeing it more and more tbh.  Now that cars with 1.2 litre engines with forced induction are the norm, the tolerances must be so small.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Bacon on July 27, 2013, 16:58:59 PM
I think we'll start seeing it more and more tbh.  Now that cars with 1.2 litre engines with forced induction are the norm, the tolerances must be so small.

Ford's new engine will fail in the long run.

And whats the whole point of these tiny engines to increase fuel economy and from what i have read the vehicles are not hitting the targets quoted.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on July 27, 2013, 18:25:55 PM
They might increase fuel economy if you are a grandad nipping round town, I'll bet they are bloody useless on the motorway.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: soopahfly on August 13, 2013, 08:58:49 AM
I'm going to slowly back away from this thread....as my Honda lunched it's timing chain at the weekend.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 13, 2013, 10:26:03 AM
I'd have to agree with the sentiments of the this thread.  German cars have an undeserved reputation for being reliable.

The man who services my FTO was used to owning Jap cars, he's had all sorts, FTOs, Supras, RX7s etc.  He then bought a new 3 series coupe a few years ago.  Within the first year he had so many recurring issues that in the end he demanded they take it back and refund him.  And that's what they did.  He now drives a Yaris :D

I never had a single issue with my last FTO in nearly 5 years of ownership.  I took it from 60k to over 105k.  And I drove it hard!  Most days it saw 8,000rpm.  Fingers crossed Ron(My current FTO) serves me as well.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 13, 2013, 10:26:30 AM
I'm going to slowly back away from this thread....as my Honda lunched it's timing chain at the weekend.

Bent valves too???
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: soopahfly on August 13, 2013, 12:27:22 PM
I'm going to slowly back away from this thread....as my Honda lunched it's timing chain at the weekend.

Bent valves too???

Dunno yet.  Dragged it back from London to Chesterfield, yet to let my mechanic have a look. 
Even if there are no bent valves, the total repair bill for this is in excess of £2500, plus it needs a clutch and flywheel at a cost of £1800, it's sounding pretty terminal.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 14, 2013, 18:48:40 PM
That's a sh*tter mate.  Commiserations.   :'(
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 14, 2013, 21:36:49 PM
I don't understand why they don't make more cars with non-interferene engines when the timing belt goes. What are you going to replace it with soopah?
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: soopahfly on August 15, 2013, 09:23:31 AM
I dunno yet.  I was initially thinking another Accord before this happened, but now I'm not keen.
Don't really want German as they are boring as hell, apart from large engined BMW's.

I'm looking at 06/56 plate Alfa 156 JTD's mostly.
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: kev2006 on October 31, 2013, 22:42:31 PM
Hi All,

Last i knew Alfa's are riddled with electrical problems!  I had one a few years back as a pool car at work I took out on occasions and i had to get RAC out to it once and they said yeah every report of a alpha we get is electrical related.

I've always had fords so far not had any real problems to speak off.  best one I've probably had was a 2006 1.6TDCi 5dr Focus LX i think it was. in Tonic colour, really liked the colour and it was averaging between 50-55mpg most of the time.  I sold it in the end as the value of the car was plummeting more than i thought it had.  I ten got a 2011 Focus - oh i wish i never bothered - a complete waste of money and time - it had no end of problems.  I bought it with just over 2k miles on it (it came from jersey) so i thought ah not bad, low miles, hasn't been thrashed as can only do 40mph tops over there.  but oh dear - it went in twice for loud knock at the rear when i had to brake hard on occasions, there was very poor acceleration in 1st gear when i collected it but next day it didn't seem as bad but it always left me thinking if i needed to move fast, would the car actually go or not, heated front screen packed up (they had to fit a whole new windscreen - done by a contracted company - only for them NOT to set the wipers properly so when i drove home and it started raining, wipers only went half way across drivers side of the windscreen so had to take it back), only did a small sections, alarm went off when we had heat wave just randomly (they had it a week to fix this issue), both front doors needed new electric motors (passenger one just stopped working completely, drivers one went down ok but struggled to go back up.

All in all about ever 2 months it was going back to dealership to get fixed.  All the issues were fixed under warranty but i recently sold it as the warranty runs out on that car next year and I just had a feeling i would be forever putting my hand in my pocket with it.

Looking online there was a lot of reports of similar issues for the 2011 model cars as these wer the first ones produced, i thought about getting a newer model where i believe these issues are now fixed but i just wasn't' sure so in the end I didn't.

Kevin
Title: Re: BMW broken down.. again!
Post by: Binary Shadow on November 02, 2013, 17:56:53 PM
Nearside front shock is leaking now.. it never ends!