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PING!!!
Reply #15 on: November 26, 2006, 19:48:52 PM
Nut wrong with machine build wheels. You can often get wheel for less than the price of hub and rim, not to mention you save $75 in labor and spokes. You just gotta give them some love is all. Destress and seat the ends into the flanges, then retrue. An old crankarm or the handle on a 12" crescent wrench is good for this. Then they usually need truing again and almost always another 1/2 turn of more tension.

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Reply #16 on: November 26, 2006, 21:20:57 PM
Im not saying anything is wrong with machine built wheels, but on the particular bike that MH has, the wheels probably cost the same as a normal spoke on its own would cost.

Mavic make some great machine built wheels, but their hubs let them down. And machine built wheels are fine for the majority of riders.

Im looking at getting some mavic 321s on Kings in the new year, hand built by our award winning wheelbuilder :D
Beaut!

PING!!!
Reply #17 on: December 06, 2006, 21:10:28 PM
Well as I didnt have money and in fact two spokes broke... one on the drive side, and I didnt have a vice around for me to undo the stuck locknut on it... I gave my wheel to my parents and asked them to sort it.

Took it to an LBS. Got told the axle was bent but it was okay, "ive just managed to bend it back into shape".

Now... considering it was bent, but I certainly never noticed it, even when faffing around with it. Its come back with what appears to be a huge kink in it now. It visibly wobbles around when I spin it, and catches because of it.

Spokes have been replaced, and wheel has been trued and tensioned, but all the spokes certainly seem rather free to move.

So unwary about the wheel. Anyhows as I now no longer trust LBSs... how difficult is it to replace a solid axle on a back wheel? and is there anything specific I need to look for?

PING!!!
Reply #18 on: December 06, 2006, 21:21:05 PM
Id call that shop ASAP and ask for the manager. Then tell him that he/she is full of dookie, and demand a new wheel or at least the price of this bogus "service" be applied to it. If the thing was so bent as to require slack in some spokes, its a dangerous wheel to ride and the shop should have informed you of that, but instead theyre out to make money, not provide a proper service.

BTW, slightly bent axles are par for the course with cheaper bikes as the dropouts are misaligned more often than not, bending the axle slightly  when under tension.

Your shop sounds like its staffed by the same assholes as mine.  Run away, but complain first. If you have something like a local chamber of commerce or similar or even a national way to complain, do. I report people that deliberately try to rip me off to out Federal Trade Commission. It takes two hands to count the number of automotive shops Ive reported. Some people need an ass kicking. :grr:

PING!!!
Reply #19 on: December 06, 2006, 22:39:06 PM
take it in again tomorrow mate. keep doing it and say its the same problem, your spokes are lose :/

PING!!!
Reply #20 on: December 06, 2006, 22:56:43 PM
ugh... to complain would be an arse. its 14 miles in the wrong direction and im too busy for the next few days to go and do it.

Parents say he was a lovely man, and has been in business for years, they admit not noticing a kink in it when they took it in, but say they werent looking for it (which is fair enough considering they were really just dropping it off for me).

At the end of the day, I need the bike working, ive yet to try it on the road yet, so maybe im just seeing stuff that really has no effect. Would like to replace the axle purely for easing my mind of it going "snap!" or something when im riding it, but I just dont have the time to complain.

PING!!!
Reply #21 on: December 06, 2006, 23:02:06 PM
Thats how shops continue to rip people off. When my Redline ended up having many glaring assembly faults, I wrote a snail mail letter, with freakin diagrams. The store owner was so taken aback that they personally apologized, got me $50 worth of new tires for free, and contacted the manufacturer in Seattle. :ptu:

I complained to spare the next guy that got a crap assembly job from having to pick their teeth out of the pavement. ;)

PING!!!
Reply #22 on: December 06, 2006, 23:23:15 PM
Thing is... from what my parents say, it doesnt seem like he would benefit from saying its bent and then bending it... as according to them he "fixed it for free".

Bah something about the whole thing just doesnt make sense.

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