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Chat => Sports, Hobbies & Motors => Topic started by: Walrusbonzo on September 14, 2008, 19:22:26 PM
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My Corolla is due its first major service next month. Im thinking after thats done its time to jump ship and get something faster and at the same time, cheaper. Im just bored!
So, what options do I have for the following criteria?
2 or 4 seat
3 door
hard top
£2000 to £4000 range.
Currently Im thinking along the lines of Toyota MR2 MK2, Toyota Celica, Mitsubishi FTO, Mitsubishi GTO/GT3000, Nissan ZX300, Nissan 200SX. Im also well aware that Im looking at something over 9 years old.
EDIT: Just thought, arent all 300zxs T-Bars?
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I really like the 200sx, the newest shape one that looks evil.
(http://www.dragtimes.com/images/10375-2000-Nissan-200SX.jpg)
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Mitsubishi FTO.
Spend nearer 4k to get a good one, and be really choosy over which one you get.
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be really choosy over which one you get.
Wise words, totally totally a buyers market atm, have a really good look around and most importantly enjoy it :nana:
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go up market & get a BMW Z3
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go up market & get a BMW Z3
Z3s did cross my mind, the earliest ones are 10~11 years old now and in my price range.
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If you got a Z3 over a 200SX youd frankly be a total moron.
The Z3 is such a sh*t slow peice of crap its embarrassing.
that price range is skyline gts money.
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Civic VTI / SIR / or a Nice Coupe :P
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If you got a Z3 over a 200SX youd frankly be a total moron.
The Z3 is such a sh*t slow peice of crap its embarrassing.
that price range is skyline gts money.
Ok, no Z3 for me then.... However, I did notice theyre pretty much all softtops, so no go for me.
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If you got a Z3 over a 200SX youd frankly be a total moron.
The Z3 is such a sh*t slow peice of crap its embarrassing.
that price range is skyline gts money.
but hed get a better class of pussy in the seat next to him :w00t:
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If you got a Z3 over a 200SX youd frankly be a total moron.
The Z3 is such a sh*t slow peice of crap its embarrassing.
that price range is skyline gts money.
but hed get a better class of pussy in the seat next to him :w00t:
:stupid:
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I want to get the car to enjoy a good ride, not enjoy a good "ride". ;-)
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Mazda RX-7, anyone know much about these? Im guessing they have a rotary engine like the RX-8?
I like the look too.
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Mazda RX-7, anyone know much about these? Im guessing they have a rotary engine like the RX-8?
I like the look too.
New tips to the rotor every 7000 miles or so. Really quick, but really horrible when they need work.
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Mazda RX-7, anyone know much about these? Im guessing they have a rotary engine like the RX-8?
I like the look too.
New tips to the rotor every 7000 miles or so. Really quick, but really horrible when they need work.
wtf? 60k, not 7k. jesus man, if it were 7k theyd never have sold.
Matt
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Mazda RX-7, anyone know much about these? Im guessing they have a rotary engine like the RX-8?
I like the look too.
New tips to the rotor every 7000 miles or so. Really quick, but really horrible when they need work.
wtf? 60k, not 7k. jesus man, if it were 7k theyd never have sold.
Matt
Mate had one, and he ended up with a new set pretty much every year. 60k is way too long. the RX8 might last that long, but the RK7 wont. I checked with him just now, he has his done every 21k, because that was the third oilchange (every 7k), and at that they where "pretty f*cked". i know there was a 7k in there somewhere.
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there has to be something else wrong with that car, theyre every 75 in the book and 60 by the enthusiasts that i spoke to when i looked them over 2 years ago. even every 60 was too much for me.
Matt
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they also rot really quickly.
They sound excellent and handle good
Just give in, the skyline is the best car japan evr have or ever will make
there is nothing to compare to it.
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There really isnt anything that even comes close
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RX7 for £4k will be a sh*t bag imo
And skyline is nice, but remember parts and servicing can be pricy for any non uk model car. Especially if your dealing with some locally to repair it and they have to order the parts in for you.
If it dont have to be Jap, and your not fussed about money to repair, then consider an A4 (B5) 1.8T or T Sport, you can chip tune them to 200bhp for a couple of hundred quid, sleeper looks , german power, doesnt come with the sh*tty bmw reputation, or even a newer model if you can find one, although i dont know if 4k will be enough for one of those. And repairs not that bad, they are rare to find now in low mileage but if you have a few weeks and you look you will find one with history. Also i dont like the newer model i think the B5 had character.
I replaced cam belt about £250 at Audi, clutch was about the same price, i owned it over 2 years, apart from those items it flew through the mots.
Also, BMW, you can get an E36 i think, go for a 323i again a lot of power to play with and refinement /german tech, has a reputation but hell i wouldnt care its a lovely car :) But your moving into the gas guzzlers though.
Can also consider a Golf mk4 gti turbo , Seat Leon 1.8 t, Skoda Octavia (i think) 1.8T / RS, all the same engine as the Audi all can be chip tuned right off the bat, providing engine is solid and it has history. Bang for the buck its the easiest way to get a good bhp increase, and they can be switchable to, leave as a sleeper and no one will know any different
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non jap at that price = 944 turbo
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non jap at that price = 944 turbo
Mark were not all as rich as you :w00t:
Btw saw a lancia or fiat i think it was the other day with ferrari in the name?, thought it would be good for your collection
And ps another one is Supra SZ/RZ i think they are, lovely looking on import with the kits :) but again gas guzzlers, you could always get an LPG conversion
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supra RZ/twin turbo would be a good choice!
ferrari/fiat dino? mate of mine has one of those - he got it for very humble money before the prices for good ones went mad
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It was actually a Lancia Thema 8.32 with the Dino engine, it caught my eye cus it had ferrari in the name :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeo8EWPSkbk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5xBr2sB_Zg
Just love the sound of it :)
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At the moment, Im thinking if the insurance is reasonable, Skyline it is.
Otherwise Ill go for a Mk2 MR2, Celica or FTO.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, its been a real help.
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FTO definately!
The top spec 200PS model does 0-60 in I think factory is 7.6 seconds iirc, which is good I think. And it looks funky. Get a manual one though :)
GTO, I think its to big and in the Top gear handling test they did about a million years ago they didnt like it much.
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The insurance on the skyline will be far from reasonable unfortunately.
One thing I should perhaps mention is the fact youll see maybe 12-15 mpg average from a liner - or most of the others (RX-7 especially)
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The insurance on the skyline will be far from reasonable unfortunately.
One thing I should perhaps mention is the fact youll see maybe 12-15 mpg average from a liner - or most of the others (RX-7 especially)
Yeah, Ive kinda guessed all this, though didnt expect it to be as bad as 12-15. I was thinking more like mid 20s.
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The insurance on the skyline will be far from reasonable unfortunately.
One thing I should perhaps mention is the fact youll see maybe 12-15 mpg average from a liner - or most of the others (RX-7 especially)
Yeah, Ive kinda guessed all this, though didnt expect it to be as bad as 12-15. I was thinking more like mid 20s.
Get an A4 B5 Turbo :P Performance and economy :P
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The insurance on the skyline will be far from reasonable unfortunately.
One thing I should perhaps mention is the fact youll see maybe 12-15 mpg average from a liner - or most of the others (RX-7 especially)
Yeah, Ive kinda guessed all this, though didnt expect it to be as bad as 12-15. I was thinking more like mid 20s.
Get an A4 B5 Turbo :P Performance and economy :P
Find me some on Ebay or Autotrader, I have no idea what a B5 is ;-)
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The insurance on the skyline will be far from reasonable unfortunately.
One thing I should perhaps mention is the fact youll see maybe 12-15 mpg average from a liner - or most of the others (RX-7 especially)
Yeah, Ive kinda guessed all this, though didnt expect it to be as bad as 12-15. I was thinking more like mid 20s.
Get an A4 B5 Turbo :P Performance and economy :P
Find me some on Ebay or Autotrader, I have no idea what a B5 is ;-)
B5 is the Audi A4 from 95-01
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The insurance on the skyline will be far from reasonable unfortunately.
One thing I should perhaps mention is the fact youll see maybe 12-15 mpg average from a liner - or most of the others (RX-7 especially)
Yeah, Ive kinda guessed all this, though didnt expect it to be as bad as 12-15. I was thinking more like mid 20s.
Youll get 20 or so in a liner if you drive real easy and at about 50
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It would appear insurance is going to make the Skyline an absolute no go for me :(
However, in case anyone else is interested.
1997 2.5 GTS Turbo with 28000 miles and no mods for only £3,750 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nissan-Skyline-28-000-MILES-ONLY-1997_W0QQitemZ290244763824QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item290244763824&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A7|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Seems like a bargain to me.
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Aye the GTS-Ts are good value for money - theyre rear drive and have the smaller, just as durable engine.
2WD makes them a bit simpler - the Rs have pretty complicated 4WD (But its fairly reliable also)
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It would appear insurance is going to make the Skyline an absolute no go for me :(
However, in case anyone else is interested.
1997 2.5 GTS Turbo with 28000 miles and no mods for only £3,750 - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nissan-Skyline-28-000-MILES-ONLY-1997_W0QQitemZ290244763824QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item290244763824&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A7|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Seems like a bargain to me.
was quite intersted in that then!
until
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s81/robdav99/liner.jpg)
maybe not! not bad for 22 though, I paid £1200 for my first car which was a 1.3 Metro.
I think your best looking at FTOs, if you can find a manual their awesome but the triptronic autos are pretty good too. They have one of the nicest exhaust notes of any car.
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Jeepers, my best/only quote on www.comparethemarket.com was £2500~
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gocompare.com was good for me. Esure are seriously cheap. and gocompare was good for import insurance to :)
Ill dig a b5 out when i find one, please give me a leicester post code :P
edit dont worry i got leicester postcode from some restaurant :P
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Colours a bit sick but its a 1.8T Sport (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI+A4/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-10-19-240-4294966653-4294966997/advert.action?R=200837318499136&distance=91&postcode=Le4+6Ar&channel=CARS&make=AUDI&model=A4&min_pr=2000&max_pr=5000&max_mileage=) Only 75k to, and history, could spend 3-400 right off and chip this one :)
1.8T Quattro Sport (http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/AUDI+A4/Ne-2-4-5-6-7-8-27-44-49-53-61-64-67-103-133-146-236,N-10-19-43-240-4294966653-4294966997/advert.action?R=200837318789492&distance=97&postcode=Le4+6Ar&channel=CARS&make=AUDI&model=A4&min_pr=2000&max_pr=5000&max_mileage=100000)
You could also get the newer model for around £4,500 on Autotrader. ( i prefer the earlier b5 model like above though) Less at a good auction, plenty of decent auctions around if you go on the right day.
Also check out http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/ some nice cars on that site.
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I can see insurance is going to be a problem here and end up playing my hand.
Just got quotes for FTO, was even more than the Skyline!
Ok, something is up with this compare the market site. I just got quotes for non Turbo MR2s and its giving me quotes over double what I got from admiral nearly a year ago.
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Ok, sod price comparison sites.
With my current car, Toyota Corolla T3(1.6) Admiral gave me the cheapest price 2 years ago and even 1 year ago when I had to renew the insurance.
They consistently gave me cheaper quotes than price comparison sites.
Now its happening again. Theyve quoted me for a Turbo Import MR2 LESS than www.comparethemarket.com give me on a non-turbo MR2!
Just knocked £1000~ from my previous best Skyline quote, still, not paying £1500!!!
YAY... I can afford to insure a 300zx Twin Turbo and FTOs with Admiral. FTO quotes were a 1/3 what some rubbish price comparison gave me.
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FTO or MR2 it is, getting quotes well under £1000 now from Admiral.
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considering how desperately bog slow an FTO is I wouldnt bother - theyre so woefully underpowered its ridiculous
Bound to be somewhere you can get a decent insurance quote for - A mate of mine has a skyline GTR insured for under 1500 quid and he is 27.
Have you considered an Evo 5 upwards? (evo 4 has a weak engine)
A skyline R32 GTR would be the absolute best performing possible for your budget, but insurance will be dear.
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All Skyline GTS quotes Im getting now are around £1500. GTRs are in the £2k+ range. I set a £1000 insurance limit for myself, even that is steep.
Surely a FTO GPX with a 200bhp 2L V6 MIVEC engine cant be THAT slow, its still going to blow the pants off my Corolla! ;-)
Ive not really considered an Evo, not the style of car Im really looking for. Ive ignored the Impreza for the same reasons.
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Ive test driven a MIVEC FTO and even with the semi-auto box it got to illegal speeds plenty quick enough.
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take a drive in an evo, then see what you think :)
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Im definitely going for a MR2 or FTO, can get insured on one for less than £900.
Just got to keep my eyes open once Ive sold my Corolla after its service next month.
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take a drive in an evo, then see what you think :)
FTOs arnt anywhere near Evos i know that but they arnt really as slow as people make out.
btw my Metro has kept up with a Tommi Makinen Edition Evo VI up to stupid speeds :D
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must have been something wrong with the evo!
0-60 in 4.3-4.5 seconds, 4WD, active yaw control
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After much thought and discussion with car mad work colleagues Ive decided upon a MR2 GT Turbo Import. I can get insured on one of these for around £700 by admiral.
Im getting there.
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Make sure its a rev 3 or above (post 1994)
Also - get one with NO MODIFICATIONS
Many are poorly modified by people with forum knowledge - if that makes sense
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Make sure its a rev 3 or above (post 1994)
Also - get one with NO MODIFICATIONS
Many are poorly modified by people with forum knowledge - if that makes sense
Thanks, thats exactly what Ive been telling myself, Rev3 onwards and no mods....
I must be doing my research correctly. :)
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Went to a Japanese import specialist in Coventry today as they had some FTOs, Im still curious.......
1 1995 GPX, 1 1995 GR, 1 1997 GPX and 1 1998 GX. All with less than 75k miles.
Was only interested in the GPXs as they have the MIVEC engines. The 1995 one had some major work required to the body(faded) and alloys(bubbled).
The 1997 one was a "facelift" version with the 5 speed auto/semi-auto transmission.
Fresh import, 3.5 rating in the auction, no modifications, totally standard car.
92~k km, so around 58k miles.
Black with no scuffs/marks/chips of any kind on the body.
No perishing rubber on the outside.
Alloys not perfect, but in no way unsightly.
Very well kept on the inside, just some wear on the stearing wheel.
Engine bay was immaculate.
Tread on all tires was very good, fronts were new.
Hows it drive? ;-)
Driving position made me feel like I was in the Ferrari 355 again. So different to my Corolla :)
Started up nicely, no unusual sounds from the engine, great exhaust note when hitting 6~7k rpm.
Went straight, didnt pull to any side when accelerating or braking.
It was a really enjoyable drive, other than I took a bit of getting used to the auto gears and semi auto gears. First time driving an auto.
They also had a MR2 MKII Turbo Rev 2, although not interested in a Rev 2 I had a look around to see what I would be getting, in general. I have to say, although from a speed and performance point of view its still the car I want. Its totally impractical. Im not talking about the lack of rear seats that the FTO has, Id be taking them out anyway if I bought an FTO. Its the lack of boot space, Id be struggling to fit my guitars in the car, let alone anything else.
Having seen my car they offered me the FTO for my car and £600. Ive managed to haggle them down to my car and £400 for the FTO and a years warranty. It would also come with 1 years MOT and 6 months TAX.
So, very tempted. Am I being stupid, should I sod the impracticality and go for a MR2 Turbo still? These importers said theyd be happy to source one for me and do all the nessecary work if I decide against the FTO. Thinking about it, should have test drove the MR2 Turbo just out of curiosity. Damn! Ill have to go back.
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youve got plenty of time dont rush into it.
FTO over MR2 for me though.
what corrola have you got? if its a reasonably new one i would have thought it would be worth more than a 97 import FTO...
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REALLY like these!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MITSUBISHI-GALANT-2-5-VR4-TWIN-TURBO-TYPE-S_W0QQitemZ350036268548QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item350036268548&_trkparms=39%3A1|66%3A2|65%3A1|240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
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Its an 03 Corolla T3. Only 30600 miles, Ill visit a few other places and see what theyd give me.
Going rate on Auto Trader and Ebay fluctuates a lot. It does appear though on Ebay that the going rate for same spec and similar miles as mine is £4500+.
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Test drive an MR2 Turbo rev 3 and then see what you think :)
Have you considered a 200SX S14a ?
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200SX like the GTO, Skyline and 300ZX is a bit bigger than what I really wanted.
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200SX isnt that big really - has the practicality & there are a lot of upgrades available
Id go for the MR2 turbo - biased since I have 1
But I do have an R32 GT-R on the way so the MR2 is unlikely to ever get finished
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Its the lack of boot space, Id be struggling to fit my guitars in the car, let alone anything else.
Theres space in the front as well if you didnt know, even more if you take the spare wheel out :lol: you could probably fit a guitar either side behind the seats too.
Also might be worth getting it undersealed as if its a JDM car it wont be.
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Gone and bought the FTO, lets hope I dont regret it.
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Just dont go racing any turbo diesels :(
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Didnt buy it to race anything.
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So far, Im loving this car :)
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Pictures, Will!
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**Photos deleted**
Its looking cleaner at the moment as I gave it a good wash and polish last week.
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/notes numberplate
/goes to steal one of those
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Il look out for ya on the road Walrus lol :)
Liam