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Chat => Sports, Hobbies & Motors => Topic started by: Badabing on July 03, 2006, 10:32:28 AM
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(http://www.orangebikes.co.uk/2006bikes/images/600/P7-SS-06-MY-P7-SS-000908.jpg)
8) Hope to order it this week... bring it on(e)!
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can i have a go
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Did the Santa Cruz go skkkrrrrrrckckckckckckpadoioioioioioingk?
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Did the Santa Cruz go skkkrrrrrrckckckckckckpadoioioioioioingk?
i wanted some yorkshire steel back in my life... 8)
EDIT: not that i had any yorkshire steel in my life before, you understand... i just like the slight homo-erotic connotation... :!:
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Yorkshire Steel, a perfect porno moniker. 8)
That bike would look perfect with a Rohloff. (http://www.bikemannetwork.com/biking/p/HU3051) :D
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Price: $1239.95
:!:
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Price: $1239.95
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Not that bad really. If you buy XTR piecemeal, it runs around 5 to 800 dollars for a drivetrain. With a Rohloff, you pay slightly more, but can use le cheap KMC chains or whatever, durable ss cranks, and no worries about cassette wear or bangin up your rear mech. The cost of ownership is about the same. Think about how simple your drivetrain cleanup would be. :D
I do wish Rohloff would do a lightweight 7 or 8 speed hub which would shave at least a pound off of it. And they need to lose the gripsh*t in favor of rapidfire.
As much as I love SS riding on road around here, most of the off road trails are on the Cumberland rim, and would need either a stupid low ratio or gears. :o I am very tempted to find an old rigid and give it a go anyway. :P I wish I had known about this (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=130&subcategory=1176&brand=&sku=14736&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=) deal before I sold that Rockhopper that did not fit. :lol:
What brand is that bike anyway, cant read the logo in the pic.
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on the subject of singlespeed, i was looking at the gallery of photos from last years Mountain Mayhem, basically a 24hr team mountain bike event.... and i came across this picture:
(http://singletrackworld.com/image.php?id=9850&op=q75:w451:h680)
RIGID SS!!! hardcore, half the guys were on geared full suspension...
EDIT: Max, the bike is an orange P7 one... http://www.orangebikes.co.uk
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RIGID SS!!! hardcore, half the guys were on geared full suspension...
Bah, back when I was a whippersnapper, we all rode fully rigid bikes with friction thumbies. :!: :lol: Indexing was a welcome addition, but rigids are simply a different animal. My old Shogun had fairly narrow cxcross width tires, and you would have to shoulder it from time to time. Manly. 8)
Are those Orange frames fairly price? I cannot imagine spending more than 500 bucks on a rigid frame I was going to bang around in the woods, no matter how pretty. Stateside, a good choice would be a Karate (http://www.surlybikes.com/karatemonkey.html) Monkey. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Surly-Karate-Monkey-Brown-Small-New-29er-Single-Speed_W0QQitemZ320003502494QQihZ011QQcategoryZ98083QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) :mrgreen:
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RIGID SS!!! hardcore, half the guys were on geared full suspension...
Bah, back when I was a whippersnapper, we all rode fully rigid bikes with friction thumbies. :!: :lol: Indexing was a welcome addition, but rigids are simply a different animal. My old Shogun had fairly narrow cxcross width tires, and you would have to shoulder it from time to time. Manly. 8)
Are those Orange frames fairly price? I cannot imagine spending more than 500 bucks on a rigid frame I was going to bang around in the woods, no matter how pretty. Stateside, a good choice would be a Karate (http://www.surlybikes.com/karatemonkey.html) Monkey. (http://cgi.ebay.com/Surly-Karate-Monkey-Brown-Small-New-29er-Single-Speed_W0QQitemZ320003502494QQihZ011QQcategoryZ98083QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) :mrgreen:
Heh, the P7 is cheap compared to the santa cruz i bought - £500 to be exact! They are seriously nice frames, though... handbuilt in Halifax, UK.
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RIGID SS!!! hardcore, half the guys were on geared full suspension...
Bah, back when I was a whippersnapper, we all rode fully rigid bikes with friction thumbies. :!: :lol:
These guys were racing maybe 6hrs in total, over 24hrs though, which is quite impressive i think...
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Not horridly priced, then. More than I would pay, but you how cheap I am. :mrgreen: A domestic equivalent here would be a Gunnar (http://www.gunnarbikes.com/ruffian.php) in the same price range. Nice stuff, if you got the dosh. My funds would likely go to fund the Taiwanese mass manufacture industry. :lol:
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Yorkshire Steel, a perfect porno moniker. 8)
and the perfect soundtrack would be Sheffield Steel by Joe [size=20]Cock[/size]er...
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Gah! ive had a rethink, on-one have thrown a spanner in the works...
(http://www.on-one.co.uk/images/pagemaster/Inbred4561.jpg)
The 456 is our long travel hardtail, thoughtfully specced and sold direct - so for £899, youre getting the best value bike out there. And were happy for you to compare us with any other brand on the market - spec for spec, theres no one offering better value.
Who else gives you external bearing Truvativ Stylo cranks, Planet X sealed cartridge bearing hubs, an FSA Orbit XL II headset, Rock Shox Revelation 426 fork, Avids BB7 disc brakes..
899 quid
the only down side is the mechanical discs :(
(http://www.stif.co.uk/images/products/3482_400.jpg)
FRAMESET:
FRAME:
COLOUR: Silver
FINISH: Gloss
FORK: Manitou Splice Comp 130mm w/ l/out
WHEELS:
HUBS: Shimano Deore 475 Disc
RIMS: WTB Speed Disc 24
TYRES: Continental Gravity
DRIVETRAIN:
SHIFTERS: Shimano Deore RF+
FRONT DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore
REAR DERAILLEUR: Shimano Deore
CRANKSET: Shimano 470 spline Hollowtech
COMPONENTS:
SADDLE: SDG Bel Air
SEATPOST: Orange Stickup
HANDLEBARS: Orange Supercross
STEM: Tioga O-Bone
HEADSET: WTB Comp
BRAKE LEVERS: Hayes FX9
BRAKES: Hayes FX9 V6
PEDALS: Flat
850 quid
downside: Deore groupset... :(
(http://www.stif.co.uk/images/products/4174_400.jpg)
singlespeed
899 quid
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Spend $50 and that geared bike will be fine. The weak spot isnt the Deore mech, just replace them with LX as needed. Weak spot is the hubs. If you get it, repack them immediately with the best bearings you can find, and check them after wet rides, as the 475s are traditional hubs with only a dustcap. Nothing wrong with the Hayes discs if youre not downhilling. I wouldnt recommend the Deore mechanicals I have on my city bike for true off-roading, but the Hayes should be perfectly fine for cross country travel.
TBh, its specced like dogsh*t for a 900 squid bike. Not that the components are bad, just that most of the dough is in the frame and fork. If you shop around over here, you could get a HT specced with LX and Avid mechanicals for half that.
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For example, if you buy direct and assemble yourself:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/mountain_bikes.htm
Yeah, those are mass market Taiwanese bikes, but with a little TLC there are some gems in the mix.
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Spend $50 and that geared bike will be fine. The weak spot isnt the Deore mech, just replace them with LX as needed. Weak spot is the hubs. If you get it, repack them immediately with the best bearings you can find, and check them after wet rides, as the 475s are traditional hubs with only a dustcap. Nothing wrong with the Hayes discs if youre not downhilling. I wouldnt recommend the Deore mechanicals I have on my city bike for true off-roading, but the Hayes should be perfectly fine for cross country travel.
TBh, its specced like dogsh*t for a 900 squid bike. Not that the components are bad, just that most of the dough is in the frame and fork. If you shop around over here, you could get a HT specced with LX and Avid mechanicals for half that.
so youd go for the second one?
the only reason i am contemplating the SS is that its lighter and it can be abused to sh*te before i have to start tending to the drive train... (especially as manchester trails are notoriously gloopy and anti-drivetrain friendly...)
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The One-on-One seems muchly better if you want gears. SS is still delightfully fuss-free though. Depends on what floats your boat, really. Whats the spec on the Orange SSs hubs/rims? If its as bad as their geared offering, at such a price point, Id be hesitant to give a thumbs up.
I understand wanting to get the best frame possible, but its all rather pointless if your hubs need replacing after a couple mucky winter rides.
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TWhats the spec on the Orange SSs hubs/rims? If its as bad as their geared offering, at such a price point, Id be hesitant to give a thumbs up.
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WHEELS:
HUBS: Hope Pro 2, singlespeed
RIMS: WTB Speed Disc 24
TYRES: Continental Gravity 2.3
which are amazingly good hubs...
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I approve. :lol:
The basic Deore hubs have a reputation. (http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Hub/product_89137.shtml) :lol: I have them on my Brodie, (http://www.mtbr.com/reviews/Hub/product_89137.shtml) btw, as it is an example of a very very nice frame paired with basic components. Fine for beer runs and town hucking, but not for anything punishing. Repacked mine first thing.
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Come off it. If you want Yorkshire Steel, you cant beat an On-One.
A bike company devoted to Single Speed nonsense.
They are tinkering with the website at the moment so I cant show you. But they are better than the orange bikes.
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http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=115&MMN_position=131:131
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Come off it. If you want Yorkshire Steel, you cant beat an On-One.
A bike company devoted to Single Speed nonsense.
They are tinkering with the website at the moment so I cant show you. But they are better than the orange bikes.
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http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=115&MMN_position=131:131
yep, ive looked long and hard on that site but i cant even tell what they have in stock, in my size, apart from the 456....
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they have everything, its the factory shop.
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they have everything, its the factory shop.
what i am saying is, i cant make head nor tail of their stock levels... my mate got an inbred - same kit as the 456 they advertise at the moment, but i cant see it anywhere...
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I dont think they do the inbred anymore. They just had a massive clearout, things like the Inbred, with Full XT and Discs for £600
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In stock now!
Were doing complete bikes - based around the 29er and Sliding Dropout Inbred.
Spec is:-
29er or 26in Sliding Dropout frame.
Rigid Superlight fork (appropriate size)
Mary bar (26in) or Fleegle Bar (29in) and Inbred Stem
FSA XL II Headset
New on-one disc SS screw on hub and matching disc front.
Avid V brakes and levers.
on-one post and saddle.
WTB tyres
Reetard rims
Truvativ Stylo GXP crankset (black, 175mm)
Gearing is 32:18 on the 29er and 32:16 on the SS.
No pedals.
Price is £499. We can ship to the US for £50.
How much of a bargain is that?
Lets do some sums.
Frame - £275
Fork - £85
Bar - £35
Stem - £35
Headset - £30
Wheelset - £100
Tyres - £25
Crank - £100
V brakes and levers - £30
Chain - £5
Freewheel - £10
Saddle - £25
Seatpost - £35
Seatclamp - £5
well... that lot comes to £795 according to my sums...
Whats that in dollars?
For US customers, £549 (price plus shipping) is $970 or thereabouts.
There are no 18in bikes in the USA right now, so we can only ship from the UK.
Can I have drop bars and a green saddle?
The short answer is that you can have anything you want.
The long answer is that all bikes as built "as is" and we cant swap or change anything, but can add in other items at a discounted price.
Such as Fleegle bars, other forks etc etc..
We also cant (currently) fit any of this product to the bikes, but will put it in the box, with the complete bike, for you to fit. Right now we dont have the manpower to offer custom building on these complete bike.
All this is coming across as us being quite negative and unhelpful, which doesnt delight me. All I can say is that the bikes are a very very low price for the spec fitted. And this low price means that we cant bend over backwards and jump through as many hoops as wed like - but even if you do need to buy an additional bar, or another freewheel, Im confident youre still getting a better deal than any other SS bike out there - either as a complete bike, or built up from individual parts.
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So thats, £500 for the bike, Add a Manitou Splice Comp like the orange,
Manitou 2005 Splice Comp - £109.99 - Chain Reaction Cycles
and thats a damn nice bike, It is slightly lower specced than the orange, but the frame is miles better. Its a big bike company you can ring up and chat to just like a local bike shop.
The guy who owns On-One and Planet-X used to live down the road from me, and he would deliver bits to me personally.
Bikes
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=83&MMN_position=96:96
Extras
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=111&MMN_position=210:210
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Are the One on Ones Taiwanese made? Gotta be for the price, and thats a good thing. I find it funny when folks over here think that theyre getting a better frame if some hippie in Wisconsin brazes it up vs. a well established Asian factory. Only thing better is usually the paint, but you have to pay 4x for the frame because of the labor costs. Nix that opinion if you truly want something custom of course. ;)
Ill take the 29er please, with some light 37mm cx tires for rapido crosskuntry-action!
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On another note: the One*ones handlebars simply ROCK. This stupid convention of virtually straight bars is a mtb engineering f*ckup thats hung in for two decades now. We had a bit of sense ten years ago with "arc bars" but they never caught on much. A few specialty companies have been making bars with sane sweepback here in the US but theyre a bit expensive.
I want some of these. (http://www.jonesbikes.com/update/hbar/index.html)
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So thats, £500 for the bike, Add a Manitou Splice Comp like the orange,
Manitou 2005 Splice Comp - £109.99 - Chain Reaction Cycles
and thats a damn nice bike, It is slightly lower specced than the orange, but the frame is miles better. Its a big bike company you can ring up and chat to just like a local bike shop.
The guy who owns On-One and Planet-X used to live down the road from me, and he would deliver bits to me personally.
Bikes
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=83&MMN_position=96:96
Extras
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=111&MMN_position=210:210
ive already got a set of Pace RC36s, id stick on it...
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On another note: the One*ones handlebars simply ROCK. This stupid convention of virtually straight bars is a mtb engineering f*ckup thats hung in for two decades now.
One reason why I put aerobars on mine, gives part of the feel of a racing bike, even if its a bit high. Unfortunately I cant move the saddle up as its a bit problematic when stationary :/
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On another note: the One*ones handlebars simply ROCK. This stupid convention of virtually straight bars is a mtb engineering f*ckup thats hung in for two decades now.
One reason why I put aerobars on mine, gives part of the feel of a racing bike, even if its a bit high. Unfortunately I cant move the saddle up as its a bit problematic when stationary :/
Aerobars? Ick! :mrgreen:
Best solution for comfort on a hybrid type bike, is to get some north road handlebars (http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=411), mounted flipped if stem is high, or otherwise not, mount up your levers, and tape the entire bar with cork instead of using grips. Tada, tons of new and exciting positions.
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soopahfly, youve cocked my plan up... ive literally got my credit card in my hand ready to order one of the 29ers.... :shock:
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soopahfly, youve cocked my plan up... ive literally got my credit card in my hand ready to order one of the 29ers.... :shock:
/me chants
DO IT DO IT DO IT DO IT WANT IT GET IT BUY IT!
:lol:
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On another note: the One*ones handlebars simply ROCK. This stupid convention of virtually straight bars is a mtb engineering f*ckup thats hung in for two decades now.
One reason why I put aerobars on mine, gives part of the feel of a racing bike, even if its a bit high. Unfortunately I cant move the saddle up as its a bit problematic when stationary :/
Aerobars? Ick! :mrgreen:
Best solution for comfort on a hybrid type bike, is to get some north road handlebars (http://harriscyclery.net/itemdetails.cfm?ID=411), mounted flipped if stem is high, or otherwise not, mount up your levers, and tape the entire bar with cork instead of using grips. Tada, tons of new and exciting positions.
Im used to aerobars so whatever handlebars I happen to have fitted I would still want those fitted. Puts you in an aerodynamic but comfortable position :)
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Im used to aerobars so whatever handlebars I happen to have fitted I would still want those fitted. Puts you in an aerodynamic but comfortable position :)
Is this for your full suspension aldi special? :?
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See... Elitist bollocks like that does my nut in.
So you bought a raleigh for a tenner, and you spent about £100 doing it up nice, kudos to you mate... I plan on doing something like that sometime soon. But some people just want a bike they can ride instantly. Yea... it can be cheap, they arent going off of any major trails, or competing in races. These people just want a bike for a bit of fun every now and again.
In fact I would say the majority of bikes I see are low cost supermarket type bikes. If they were so crap as to be worthless then they wouldnt all be out on the road now would they? theyd all be rotting in backgardens with broken rims and snapped frames.
Now even with my cheapy apollo that you hate, I can appreciate that damage does get done a lot easier on them, they do require upkeep and will probably in the end cost me more than if I just bought a nice ribble from the off. But at the end of the day, its saved me about £150 of train tickets so far, got my resting pulse down to 68-70 from 76-78, improved my leg muscles, and done the job I bought it for. Because of the savings on train tickets it means that It has effectively paid for itself twice over.
Now Ive fitted some bar ends to mine, but I can certainly appreciate the need for aero bars on a bike. They make it a hell of a lot easier to ride into the wind when on a commute, and Id definately consider getting one for mine. If I had the spare dosh.
If serious feels as if his purchase of aero bars has improved his general cycling schenanigans then more power to him. If you feel that purchasing £600 worth of bike has done the same, then same goes to you. Kudos.
But lets stop it with this "heh... on your cheap aldi mountain bike" bollocks. Theres no other reason for it than to degrade and humiliate other people.
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I presume they are taiwanese made. I remember the owner coming into the shop I worked in with a huge catalogue full of taiwanese bike bits just ready to put their name on.
Although, I have seen the R&D for the old Planet-Xs and I owned a few prototypes. So Im not sure.
Just check the RC36s will take the 29" wheel that the 29er has.
Might be better to get the Inbred with sliding dropouts as opposed to the 29er if your forks dont fit.
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I presume they are taiwanese made. I remember the owner coming into the shop I worked in with a huge catalogue full of taiwanese bike bits just ready to put their name on.
Thought so. Nothing wrong with that, the Taiwanese do great work. It used to be that the Japanese were the go-tos for mass manufactured bike frames, my KHS Im selling being a prime example, but that changed with the strength of the Yen...
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Im used to aerobars so whatever handlebars I happen to have fitted I would still want those fitted. Puts you in an aerodynamic but comfortable position :)
Is this for your full suspension aldi special? :?
Yep and unlike my mate who invested £500 in his bike I can still ride mine...
His was nicked BTW :P
£80 for bike, £10 for replacement saddle and £35 for aerobars. Good enough for me.
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I presume they are taiwanese made. I remember the owner coming into the shop I worked in with a huge catalogue full of taiwanese bike bits just ready to put their name on.
Although, I have seen the R&D for the old Planet-Xs and I owned a few prototypes. So Im not sure.
Just check the RC36s will take the 29" wheel that the 29er has.
Might be better to get the Inbred with sliding dropouts as opposed to the 29er if your forks dont fit.
im going for the 29er, so i wont stick any suspension forks on it anyway - the bigger wheels and the frame geometry should soak up any big divets/ruts...
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See... Elitist bollocks like that does my nut in.
So you bought a raleigh for a tenner, and you spent about £100 doing it up nice, kudos to you mate... I plan on doing something like that sometime soon. But some people just want a bike they can ride instantly. Yea... it can be cheap, they arent going off of any major trails, or competing in races. These people just want a bike for a bit of fun every now and again.
In fact I would say the majority of bikes I see are low cost supermarket type bikes. If they were so crap as to be worthless then they wouldnt all be out on the road now would they? theyd all be rotting in backgardens with broken rims and snapped frames.
Now even with my cheapy apollo that you hate, I can appreciate that damage does get done a lot easier on them, they do require upkeep and will probably in the end cost me more than if I just bought a nice ribble from the off. But at the end of the day, its saved me about £150 of train tickets so far, got my resting pulse down to 68-70 from 76-78, improved my leg muscles, and done the job I bought it for. Because of the savings on train tickets it means that It has effectively paid for itself twice over.
Now Ive fitted some bar ends to mine, but I can certainly appreciate the need for aero bars on a bike. They make it a hell of a lot easier to ride into the wind when on a commute, and Id definately consider getting one for mine. If I had the spare dosh.
If serious feels as if his purchase of aero bars has improved his general cycling schenanigans then more power to him. If you feel that purchasing £600 worth of bike has done the same, then same goes to you. Kudos.
But lets stop it with this "heh... on your cheap aldi mountain bike" bollocks. Theres no other reason for it than to degrade and humiliate other people.
FFS take a chill pill rocky dennis.
I wasnt having a go at the sodding cost of the bike (I have no idea how much it was, and I dont really care). I was merely surprised at the use of aero bars on a full suspension mountain bike. Not a combination often seen, is it? But then hey, if its comfortable then thats obviously a plus. Im not trying to say "Youre not a real man unless you spend $$$ on the least practical bike on the planet and ride it till your arse bleeds" am I?
Take your jumped-up presumptious nature elsewhere; diving in and starting a flame war just because you got the wrong end of the stick gets you nowhere, and it bores the hell out of me.
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I never said you were a guy purely concerned with $$$£££ but you certainly seem extremely insistant in your quest to let everyone know x-mart bikes are sh*te.
How about instead of just leaving the comment "is this for your full suspension aldi special?" backing it up with further information such as
"Eh?! aero bars on a mountain bike?! why!?"
Heck that message is less offending (too strong a word but you get my drift) than your original one.
Take your current "I hate x-mart bike" stature that youve built for yourself on here, combine it with the above "aldi special" comment and you just get an arse out to flame for the sake of it.
Start a flame war my arse, was just an observation.
Granted text based communication can be difficult to successfully convey emotions but taking the opinion Ive built of you from your comments on here, I think I was correct to step in. (This doesnt mean to say I think your an arse [you arent ;)]... its just saying after viewing multiple posts of your opinion on certain bikes Ive built up a profile of your opinion).
"nuff said".
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Think what you like, I really couldnt care less.
I dont have a hate thing for "X-mart" bikes (whatever they are), I merely hate the cheap-as-sh*t bike shaped apollo sh*tpies. Granted this may partly be because Im the guy that gets asked to fix them at uni as Im handy with a spanner, but that doesnt take away from the fact that theyre complete balls.
And I only voice that view when someone jumps to their defence saying "Oh theyre perfectly fine really", as to be quite honest they arent and anyone who uses it daily would be better of financially after a year if they bought a proper bike to start with.
The nice thing about the internet is the relative honesty you find in user reviews etc. Thats what makes it perfect for scouting out future purchases. Now if people who had a gripe with a product kept it to themselves for fear of offending others, that wouldnt be the case would it?
:roll:
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Think what you like, I really couldnt care less.
I dont have a hate thing for "X-mart" bikes (whatever they are), I merely hate the cheap-as-sh*t bike shaped apollo sh*tpies. Granted this may partly be because Im the guy that gets asked to fix them at uni as Im handy with a spanner, but that doesnt take away from the fact that theyre complete balls.
And I only voice that view when someone jumps to their defence saying "Oh theyre perfectly fine really", as to be quite honest they arent and anyone who uses it daily would be better of financially after a year if they bought a proper bike to start with.
The nice thing about the internet is the relative honesty you find in user reviews etc. Thats what makes it perfect for scouting out future purchases. Now if people who had a gripe with a product kept it to themselves for fear of offending others, that wouldnt be the case would it?
:roll:
You care enough to reply.
X-mart. Your a physics guru... X = the unknown variate. Replace with Wall and youll get my drift.
If my bike falls apart after a year, then I will have saved enough money to buy a top notch bike, and have money left over. Sure, if I start having to replace forks, having rewelds and handlebars start snapping Ill say "yip... theyre sh*te". Until then a little maintenance is no big deal.
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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaxxxxxxxxx, soooooppahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...
HELP!
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=131
ITS CALLING TO ME!
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funkychicken9000, M3ta7h3ad, OK lads, time to pucker those lips, kiss butt and make up :gag:
or at least drop it ;)
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Why not just convert your cruz to single speed, then buy that, if singlespeed is your desire.
Its easy enough, even if you havent got a horiz drop out.
All the parts are available from on-one.
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=74&MMN_position=80:80
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=140&MMN_position=229:229
or
http://www.on-one.co.uk/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=123&MMN_position=203:203
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Why not just convert your cruz to single speed, then buy that, if singlespeed is your desire.
The SC indeed has drops designed for ss if you desire, but I think he mentioned wanting something a bit more pure "cross country" in the ss department. Ill have to check my gaim logs. :P
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Why not just convert your cruz to single speed, then buy that, if singlespeed is your desire.
The SC indeed has drops designed for ss if you desire, but I think he mentioned wanting something a bit more pure "cross country" in the ss department. Ill have to check my gaim logs. :P
you were correct! that pompino though has made my levis go a bit tight though.. :o
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Pompino + these (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=121&subcategory=1256&brand=&sku=17505&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=) = :ptu:
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Silence Scum!
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Pompino + these (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=121&subcategory=1256&brand=&sku=17505&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=) = :ptu:
ive gone for the 29er.... good effort at the end to change the vote, Max.... nice bit of beating down by Soopah too - the bloody zealot... :p
If i didnt own my lovely dubly ribble, id have gone for the pompino, it looks sexy as fook and those bars are bootiful...
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So whens the big day?
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bought it - £507 inc. delivery. :ptu: (thats the 29inch SS bike).
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Its because the lads in Halifax make expensive frames :/
Steve Peat should be flyin now with Santa Cruz :D
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theres a box at home with my name on it....
:shock: :o :D
ooooh, got to get home QUICK...
*ive just urinated myself*.
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*ive just urinated myself*.
Like Ive always said, "Dan, the man with a urethra like a sewer pipe." Impressive! :lol:
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Perhaps he pooped a body double first :D
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Well, its here, ive set it up and ive riden it...
and im speechless...
I cant stress how unbelievably good this thing is... the most impressive piece of mountain bike equipment ive come across since the Shimano XT V brakes in 1997 - stunning...
and heres something else which amazed me, its quicker over rocky ground than my Santa Cruz Chameleon with Pace RC36 suspension forks on... IT IS RAPID - the 29" wheels make one hell of a difference as do the forks - the handling is soooo sweet...
Im off to the bathroom... adios.
EDIT: pics to follow.
:D
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1,000,000 X :w00t:
Sounds yummy. :D
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1,000,000 X :w00t:
Sounds yummy. :D
even the decals and the saddle (which has a cartoon of an inbred on it) are superb.. :)
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note to self - before charging down hills - make sure the front brake is connected...... no really... :shock:
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(http://static.flickr.com/47/193886866_2d2b6ef3ee.jpg?v=0)
(http://static.flickr.com/64/193886841_907cae6b87.jpg?v=0)
(http://static.flickr.com/56/193886822_94307060df.jpg?v=0)
(http://static.flickr.com/55/193886787_40b897cf4b.jpg?v=0)
(http://static.flickr.com/53/193886567_13ef21ce4e.jpg?v=0)
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Must make the ride even sweeter knowing theres a buck toothed hillbilly up your rump. :lol:
Cool as hell, and them tires look WIDE! I thought it was a 26 inch bike for a sec. :mrgreen:
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Must make the ride even sweeter knowing theres a buck toothed hillbilly up your rump. :lol:
Cool as hell, and them tires look WIDE! I thought it was a 26 inch bike for a sec. :mrgreen:
the wheels are superb - they really do make up for the lack of suspension - soaking up the hits and it gliding over roots!
The only downside is sometimes the thing picks up so much speed it gets a bit gnarly... but it just takes getting used to...
On-one even supplied me with some paint in case i scratch it - lovely stuff!
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I take it you like it then :D
And would you not prefer this logo?
(http://twentynineinches.com/wp-content/themes/red-train/images/29bumper2.jpg)
/Me awaits payday to collect Chameleon frame :D
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I take it you like it then :D
And would you not prefer this logo?
(http://twentynineinches.com/wp-content/themes/red-train/images/29bumper2.jpg)
/Me awaits payday to collect Chameleon frame :D
i may also be parting company with my RC36s, now.
Know anyone whos interested?
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Depends on cost but I can ask about
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29" single speeds ON TRAILS rock, they rock, rock, ROCK!
a bit dog poo on road, but my god these things FLY on singletrack... :rock: :w00t:
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Been told that those wheels and forks your selling should fetch good money on ebay.
Got to get in touch with stif for a disc kit (involves frame drillage!!) and a seat pin the correct size.
Did rotating the seat clamp through 180degrees help with the creaking?
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Been told that those wheels and forks your selling should fetch good money on ebay.
Got to get in touch with stif for a disc kit (involves frame drillage!!) and a seat pin the correct size.
NO! NO! NO! i got a disc kit from stiff to run hopes on that frame, but it got lost when i went all XC and put rim brakes on it... YOU DO NOT NEED TO DRILL THE FRAME - i certainly didnt and ran a hope disc on that frame norproblem.
re: the clamp - it made no difference, turning it either way - it was the same.
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i had spotted the outline of a disc mount and decided it probably didnt need drilling :D
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i had spotted the outline of a disc mount and decided it probably didnt need drilling :D
ill have a good search around the garage tonight for the disc mount, i stuck some Vs on it [the SC] a while ago and the disc mount got lost when we were doing some building work on the garage, which is a sh*tter... :( If i find it i will let you know...
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Dont worry about it, Ive got various bits on order now, New mount from SC, a 27.2 seatpost, new FSA Pig headset (just for crown race) and a properly sized bottom bracket, although I might cancel that bit and order some Race Face cranks/isis bottom bracket.
Ill get some pics up once its complete :D
So far, its a tastey:
Santa Cruz Chameleon
Hope M4 Disc Brakes
Marzocchi Bomber Drop Off IIs
Hope XCs on Mavic D521s
XTR Rear Mech
Easton Seatpost
Race Face Evolve cranks and BB
Specialized Body Geometry saddle
DMR V12 pedals
DMR Cromo Wingbar
DMR Conrod Stem.
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Legendary hardtail frame, built to last. Damn good choice.
Id have gone for different rims, but the hubs are great :)
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EDIT.
Its got a Race Face Evolve seatpin on it now :D