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Re:More good ice driving
Reply #30 on: December 27, 2009, 16:54:54 PM
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Ive found even on the icy roads just by getting to the biting point at around 600 rpm on my car (idle) then the wheels still spin.


I managed to wheelspin my car in 3rd gear doing about 20mph driving normally, no acceleration/deceleration just as I drove over some black ice on one of my local roads. Thankfully it was only a small patch where the sun hadnt melted it.

The following day my mum commented on another bit where she watched someone try to get up the road, which is only like a 5 degree incline, but failing nontheless. I even nearly slid into the road on foot twice on the dropped curbs, youd step on it and start sliding and not know what to do as you couldnt really move any way but towards the road ><

I do think the Mazda 3 handled much better than the micra did though, I wonder what is the biggest factor in stability in the sense of bigger/wider wheels, longer wheel base, or just being a heavier car.


As bear says above, wider tyres are the worst thing you can have in these conditions. The skinnier the better.


What about the best thing? Whats more likely to be helping my car, considering that I have wider tyres than the micra but it handled better in the ice...longer wheel base or additional weight?

Ive been wondering about wide vs thin tyres and aqua planing, I figured having a wider tyre would act more like a ski than a thin tyre which would hopefully cut through the water more.

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More good ice driving
Reply #31 on: December 27, 2009, 21:40:03 PM
That is right a skinny tyre is less likely to aqua plane, in front wheel drive cars there is a good weight above driving wheels but in rear wheel drives an extra weight could be good not to much though as a too back heavy car can skid out with rear easier.

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Re:More good ice driving
Reply #32 on: January 01, 2010, 18:30:56 PM
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No one has the legal right to the light that comes off their face in a public place.

If thats the case, why then must a photographer get the subject to sign a model release form before he can use it commercially?...

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Re:More good ice driving
Reply #33 on: January 01, 2010, 18:32:32 PM
PS:  Just seen the vid.  Those idiots should be banned from driving for life.

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Reply #34 on: January 01, 2010, 19:50:45 PM
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No one has the legal right to the light that comes off their face in a public place.

If thats the case, why then must a photographer get the subject to sign a model release form before he can use it commercially?...

So youre telling me the average paparazzi takes a pic of Jordan looking like a tramp at her front door then goes up to her and says, cap in hand, "ere gel, goona sign dis bit o paper for me, theres a dear?" I dont think so.

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Reply #35 on: January 01, 2010, 20:34:49 PM
I thought there was a bit of a grey area where the photos werent allowed if they contained identifying features (google streetview?) but in regards to celebrities this is relaxed somewhat given their profession, and the understanding that if you want to live in the limelight you should expect the paparazzi treatment?

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Re:More good ice driving
Reply #36 on: January 01, 2010, 21:44:42 PM
IIRC model releases are not required in the UK (under 16 require a licence from  local authority), but are elsewhere in the world so most agencys ask so they can use anywhere.

that being said in uk law, for non commercial use you do not have a right to you image if it was taken of you in a public space, otherwise street based CCTV would be imposable to use.

In the case of items of public interest/journalism model releases are not required, as long as the taking the photo dont brake  the laws on sexual assault victims,national security or was taken in side a court of law

Re:More good ice driving
Reply #37 on: January 01, 2010, 22:50:50 PM
kind of strange its legal to film a person, but not to record a telephone conversation or somthing...

More good ice driving
Reply #38 on: January 01, 2010, 22:53:58 PM
I guess it must be because, you cant expect privacy out on the street, but you could in a telephone conversation ?


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Re:More good ice driving
Reply #39 on: January 03, 2010, 03:41:37 AM
One of the most popular videos of the week on youtube.

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