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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #15 on: February 21, 2007, 12:10:18 PM
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employ clarkson to do it.

he would have it done in a week.


Damned right! Tho he would have 100,000 council workers at his house threatening to kill him. The road works in Durham at the moment near my house are stupid they have traffic lights up for doing work on a bloody path! They are only relaying new bricks on the path and tarmacking the thing.

They need to say FO to Health & Safety and get on with it!
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Re:Tonys response to the petition
Reply #16 on: February 21, 2007, 12:57:29 PM
Its a Scam.
Instead of saying what to do & start charging us now, Why not do it & see if gets worse before charging?

Public Transport WILL NOT be improve before any road pricing. Look at the new congestion zone.. conveniently put in place to start during school 1/2 term... Thats going to be 20% less cars straight away. Look at the traffic lights in london. Slowed down & altered on purpose to cause congestion. Duty on Fuel & road tax is supposed to be used to fund our road infrustructure & not used on other places/projects. Should just tarmac the whole country TBH.

Besides, the easy way around it is to go abroad & buy a Car registered in that country. Foreign drivers pay nothing to drive their cars over here & that wont change.

The best Solution would be :-
1. Raise the Minimum Age for Drivers to 21
2. Ban Trucks from Congested Zones from 7-10am & 4-7pm
3. Get Tough of Non MOT/Licenced/Uninsured Vehicles
4. Only allow Vehicles upto a certain age on the motorways - which can tie n with their green issue policies.
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Re:Tonys response to the petition
Reply #17 on: February 21, 2007, 13:21:37 PM
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1. Raise the Minimum Age for Drivers to 21


What about people under 21 who need a car for work/buisness?


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2. Ban Trucks from Congested Zones from 7-10am & 4-7pm


What about builders trucks who need to get new building materials to places or delivery trucks who need to get to buisness to deliver items.

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3. Get Tough of Non MOT/Licenced/Uninsured Vehicles

I agree with that but I dont think its relative to the congestion problem.

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4. Only allow Vehicles upto a certain age on the motorways - which can tie n with their green issue policies.


So what about poorer families who cant afford a new car?
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #18 on: February 21, 2007, 13:56:43 PM
only 3 has any merit the rest are crap tbh
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Reply #19 on: February 21, 2007, 13:59:49 PM
Car sharing would be good idea if you have several employees who commute from the same area who work at similar times.
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Re:Tonys response to the petition
Reply #20 on: February 21, 2007, 14:22:39 PM
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4. Only allow Vehicles upto a certain age on the motorways - which can tie n with their green issue policies.


My car is 17 years old and more than safe/fast enough for motorway travel. Strict enforcement of a minimum speed limit is what is required here, not a blanket ban on old cars.
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #21 on: February 21, 2007, 14:34:42 PM
its emissions which should be clamped down on.

instead of 3rd party boy racer mods, there should be 3rd party emissions enhancer parts which you can buy, to get you through your emissions test.

the eu in the next few years is going to impose a 140 gm/km limit on all new cars.

your average mondeo does 247 btw.
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Reply #22 on: February 21, 2007, 14:43:08 PM
I would look at that figure again, perhaps the V6 engines maybe but the 1.8i and the deisels produce less than 185g/km,  I think the deisels produce somewhere around 150g/km
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #23 on: February 21, 2007, 15:43:28 PM
Clamping down on emissions is all well and good but still isnt going to help the congestion problem.
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #24 on: February 21, 2007, 15:52:16 PM
maybe closeing our borders and kicking the illegals out might help
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Reply #25 on: February 21, 2007, 16:21:01 PM
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1. Raise the Minimum Age for Drivers to 21


What about people under 21 who need a car for work/buisness?


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2. Ban Trucks from Congested Zones from 7-10am & 4-7pm


What about builders trucks who need to get new building materials to places or delivery trucks who need to get to buisness to deliver items.

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3. Get Tough of Non MOT/Licenced/Uninsured Vehicles

I agree with that but I dont think its relative to the congestion problem.

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4. Only allow Vehicles upto a certain age on the motorways - which can tie n with their green issue policies.


So what about poorer families who cant afford a new car?


1. Tough. Use a Bike / Moped / Public Transport. Or at least have restrictions on them.
Itll cut down on Accidents as well as they are the most likely to have them
2. Deliver earlier or later. Taking Freight of the roads during the busy periods would free up a good 20-25% of road space. Infact, the goverment should give them special incentives to drive from dusk to dawn.
3. Every little helps - Its estimated 1 in 10 cars are uninsured.
4. Erm... well how are they going to survive under road pricing? Think it through.
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Reply #26 on: February 21, 2007, 16:24:43 PM
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4. Only allow Vehicles upto a certain age on the motorways - which can tie n with their green issue policies.


My car is 17 years old and more than safe/fast enough for motorway travel. Strict enforcement of a minimum speed limit is what is required here, not a blanket ban on old cars.


I bet it shakes like a bastard when you hit 75mph? + all the dirty sh*t its pumping out with 17 years of wear & tear.
The MOT should be modernised. Instead of the It can go forward, it can go backwards. It Stops & it has lights, kind of MOT we have atm.

Things like ABS Breaks for example. There should be a Grace period of say 3 years where all New Cars MUST have ABS Breaks. Same for most other Driving/Safety Aid.

Besides that, If point 1 & 3 was done, there wouldnt be many point 4 cars left. Most uninsured cars are uninsured because of 1x Money or 2x It wont pass an MOT
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #27 on: February 21, 2007, 16:25:28 PM
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Clamping down on emissions is all well and good but still isnt going to help the congestion problem.


yes it would.
For a Start it would take every London Red Bus off the Road  :P


That would solve the London problem overnight.
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Tonys response to the petition
Reply #28 on: February 21, 2007, 16:26:17 PM
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maybe closeing our borders and kicking the illegals out might help


We shouldnt need road congestion as an excuse to do that  :mrgreen:
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Re:Tonys response to the petition
Reply #29 on: February 21, 2007, 16:38:22 PM
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I bet it shakes like a bastard when you hit 75mph? + all the dirty sh*t its pumping out with 17 years of wear & tear.
The MOT should be modernised. Instead of the It can go forward, it can go backwards. It Stops & it has lights, kind of MOT we have atm.


Hahaha that amuses me so much! Who cares if a car shakes, that kind of statement is bold. You usually find people who have a old car look after them better than people with newer ones.  I think your going to get a bashing off near enough everyone for saying things like that.

Obviously your no petrolhead when it comes to the point that you wouldnt have a vintage etc.
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