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Re: Home automation
Reply #15 on: April 30, 2012, 16:35:37 PM
I have all the lamps in the living room hooked up to an RF dimmer using a set of cheap remote plug socket controllers, frustratingly my Harmony cant control them, if it did I'd be in a pretty good place, as it is I still need 2 remotes.

I've got the harmony for my AV setup in my living room and cheap remote switches in the bedroom. However the one in the bedroom (that controls lights, speakers and computer power) has decided on some sensors you need to be about 2 feet away for it to work!

And in the living room I have no lighting automation but want it, hence me starting up this conversation, as this is the second set of remotes I have broken now and before getting a 3rd I wanted to look at the options to meet my longer term goal of being uber lazy and geeky!

Re: Home automation
Reply #16 on: May 01, 2012, 08:09:19 AM
what do you want automate?
I looked at x10 & thought it was expensive as the UK isnt a big marrket, our sockets arent massed produced.
lightwaveRF pretty much does everything as does z-wave (though expensive).
You may also want to look at zigbee, which is a recognised worldwide standard that allows anyone to design for it.

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Re: Home automation
Reply #17 on: May 01, 2012, 17:44:02 PM
I've got a cheap £20 IR light switch to go in my lounge and was looking at getting an arduino or similar + IR transmitter and then making a simple iphone app that would allow me to turn the lights on/off and control the TV, HIFI etc..

the lightvare RF stuff looks good and comes with its own separate app - one thing I'm wondering is whether it would be straightforward enough to send the same commands from my own app. For IR stuff most of the codes etc.. required are available it seems or can be found using an IR reciever- I guess to incorporate the lightwave stuff into the same app might potentially require a bit of faffing...

Initially I just want to make my own iphone app to turn the phone into a universal remote and control the lights however extending it later and being able to control all the lights in the house and a few sockets would be cool.

Re: Home automation
Reply #18 on: May 01, 2012, 18:47:51 PM
what do you want automate?
I looked at x10 & thought it was expensive as the UK isnt a big marrket, our sockets arent massed produced.
lightwaveRF pretty much does everything as does z-wave (though expensive).
You may also want to look at zigbee, which is a recognised worldwide standard that allows anyone to design for it.

I agree X10 is expensive for UK fittings, which was half the reason for posting on here to see other peoples thoughts/experiences..

Ideally I want a system that I can expand as I go, which allows things from light control to alarm systems, and single button activations..

I.e.

Alarm - Arm alarm, turn off lights, close curtains, lock doors, and allow to monitor status from remote locations..

Home cinema - Close curtains, dim lights, turn on correct equipment.

Bed time - Go to bed, turn off all lights arm zone 1 alarm lock doors, heating off

Maybe automated lighting based on movement around the house.. Sensors would be dual purpose (alarm and lighting)

Like I said I wont do all this from day one, but will add to it as time/money/location suits providing I can find a system that works and doesn't cost silly money..

Will take a look at zigbee, cheers for the suggestion

Regarding the IR light switch and TV HIFI etc, have you thought about just using a harmony remote? It should do what you want out of the box, although light dimmer location may require something to redirect the IR signal?

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Re: Home automation
Reply #19 on: May 01, 2012, 19:22:30 PM
that would ruin the fun of building a solution - plus using the iphone + an arduino is cheaper as I already have the phone :)

ideally, if I did go down the automation route too, then I'd want to use/add to the same app - control the TV, lights and anything else from the phone.

Re: Home automation
Reply #20 on: May 02, 2012, 21:01:02 PM
about hooking up one of these bad boys to your alarm system.

I wouldn't. Folk have done plenty of research into X10 type stuff and the encryption (if any is used) is pretty damn weak. I've read articles where they just drove around the suburbs that most of silicon valley folk live and hoovered a whole heap of what looked like alarm codes and other such joyous things.

Even those that didn't hook up such things the authentication behind it meant they had control over their house just by sitting outside in a van.

Edit: my bad it wasn't a van :)

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/08/hacking-home-automation/
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Re: Home automation
Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 19:30:05 PM
It's deffinately something to consider, but to be honest in the uk market the use of this is so small the chance that someone would use it is slim to none, and they would need to be a neighbour as well!

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Re: Home automation
Reply #22 on: May 03, 2012, 20:41:43 PM
about hooking up one of these bad boys to your alarm system.

I wouldn't. Folk have done plenty of research into X10 type stuff and the encryption (if any is used) is pretty damn weak. I've read articles where they just drove around the suburbs that most of silicon valley folk live and hoovered a whole heap of what looked like alarm codes and other such joyous things.

Even those that didn't hook up such things the authentication behind it meant they had control over their house just by sitting outside in a van.

Edit: my bad it wasn't a van :)

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/08/hacking-home-automation/

For anyone capable of doing it, breaking into my 1 bedroom flat isn't going to be worth their while.

Granted, if you lived in a mansion in California with a few supercars in the garage etc.. then perhaps you would need to worry but the sort of burglar that might target me isn't sophisticated enough. (plus I wouldn't be automating locks etc..)

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