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  • Offline Beaker

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Re:BES Rollout
Reply #15 on: March 22, 2010, 10:41:54 AM
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Which only works on Windows Mobile phones running WinMobile 5.5 or above IIRC.  Doesnt work on fully iPhones as I understand it.  Will remove the exchange data, but the contacts, calendars and the rest dont get wiped.  


removes everything my learned friend. if you wipe the phone, the user cant get onto it until you turn the wipe off. the phone is a brick. you should try it sometime.


Hold on, it locks the handset out?  does it ACTUALLY wipe it on the iPhone, or is it just a security lockout?  If these worked perfectly as you suggest then how come the iPhone hasnt got government security certification?

Re:BES Rollout
Reply #16 on: March 22, 2010, 11:19:56 AM
My phone has the ability to track the phone when stolen using GPS, make the phone play different sounds.
Lock the phone with my contact details for the return of the phone.  Log text messages, text me when a different sim is inserted to tell me the new telephone number, so I can keep phoning them until they get fed up.
Remote wipe, and the software is built into rom so it cant be uninstalled.

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Re:BES Rollout
Reply #17 on: March 22, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
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Which only works on Windows Mobile phones running WinMobile 5.5 or above IIRC.  Doesnt work on fully iPhones as I understand it.  Will remove the exchange data, but the contacts, calendars and the rest dont get wiped.  


removes everything my learned friend. if you wipe the phone, the user cant get onto it until you turn the wipe off. the phone is a brick. you should try it sometime.


Hold on, it locks the handset out?  does it ACTUALLY wipe it on the iPhone, or is it just a security lockout?  If these worked perfectly as you suggest then how come the iPhone hasnt got government security certification?


wipes it and holds it wiped. have apple applied for govt security? given the number of laptops MI5 just admitted to losing does the phrase "government security" actually mean a jot? no.

Re:BES Rollout
Reply #18 on: March 22, 2010, 11:31:27 AM

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Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 11:04:14 AM
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wipes it and holds it wiped. have apple applied for govt security? given the number of laptops MI5 just admitted to losing does the phrase "government security" actually mean a jot? no.


Not sure if they have or not, companies that do dont advertise the fact all that much until they are accepted for it.  However  http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/iPhone-Hacked-Pwn2Own-SMS-Database,news-33059.html?xtmc=pwn2own&xtcr=2
Would suggest that perhaps the handset isnt wiping anything properly.  Its doing a soft-delete without destroying the data.

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Re:BES Rollout
Reply #20 on: March 31, 2010, 00:27:38 AM
CESG (Our poor cousin of FIPS) that we have in the UK has some fairly decent standards (Especially in cryptography), but it is how they are implemented and followed that is another thing. It would surprise you how detailed it goes into in some areas.

Thered be no point in trying to get an iphone certified, because you couldnt get it to pass unless you totally rewrote the software and redesigned the hardware.

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