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4Mb Narrowband... >:-(
on: March 23, 2008, 23:44:09 PM
 
To cut a very long saga short, I lost my BB connection at 0130hrs Thursday.  My ISP (Nildram) told me that BT had been carrying out some work and that normal service would be resumed by morning.  Morning came and still nothing so I phoned again.  I was then given the runaround for neary three days while they "tried" to get to the root of the problem.  It turned out that they had switched from PPPOE to PPPOA and hadnt bothered telling anyone...  :roll:

Service resumed.

However, my download speed is now a maximum of 200kbs (0.2 Mbps) where it should be around 4Mb  :0hnoes: - and they cant find a reason.

• BT say the line is ok
• Ping and tracert checks seem fins (avg of 22ms).
• Router control panel reports speed as 4Mb +/-

Anyone have scooby what could be wrong here?  I have one hair left before total baldness.
 

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Reply #1 on: March 24, 2008, 00:05:47 AM
It is funny that, I am in NZ and since getting my net had similar issues funny enough

My download speeds from the net are 50kbps on average all the time from anywhere when I should have 6mb worth (600kbps) my pings in places have issues though and when I leave NZ it goes to pot and they say they are working on that but the download rate is odd when speed test and router say otherwise.

Try a torrent file and watch the speed, I have done so and got 500-600kbps easy from them funny enough, if you get the same it would be very interesting.

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Reply #2 on: March 24, 2008, 00:09:03 AM
you are now suffering from Tossacali-itis.  Welcome to the hell predicted by the doomsayers...

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Reply #3 on: March 24, 2008, 00:33:05 AM
Im with Nildram.  Dont tell me Pisscali have bought them over?....

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Reply #4 on: March 24, 2008, 00:38:50 AM
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Im with Nildram.  Dont tell me Pisscali have bought them over?....


Nildram is owned by pipex which sold up to pisscali so yeah they have :)

Try a torrent though, 200-300mb see what your average is

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Reply #5 on: March 24, 2008, 01:06:42 AM
 
Between 115 and 387Kb/s.  Avg is 243 Kb/s

Im confused now. :wtf:

Things are definitely slow when browsing.  Pic downlods are excrutiating...
 

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Reply #6 on: March 24, 2008, 10:42:28 AM
Hmm...  there is some differences betwix MTU sizes at bit smaller in PPPOA i think.

You could try to exclude some old seldom used stuff that XP enables by default.


Right click your connection and go to properties, when properties for Intenet protocol TCP/IP and when advanced
setings /alternatives TCP/IP settings/ properties under IP filtering allow only 6 and 17.

under Wins inactivate NetBios over TCP/IP.




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Reply #7 on: March 24, 2008, 10:48:43 AM
Thanks - I might try that.  Im on Vista though; will that make a difference?

[edit] Cant see those options. :(

Looking at my Netgear contol panel, MTU size is currently 1458.

Local Area Connection Status reports that IP6 Connectivity is limited...?  How do i change that?

Sgould I be on a Public or Private Network? (Currently Public)
 

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Reply #8 on: March 24, 2008, 11:29:26 AM
I found this: http://www.petri.co.il/forums/showthread.php?t=1728

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So what are the scenarios and pros /cons of each solution?

PPPoA
PPPoA sessions are terminated on the CPE. On Windows machines this results in loading a device specific driver and using either DUN or a proprietary dialer app. for modems anyway, generally USB
Many routers only support PPPoA as it is an easier protocol to implement - when you think of the fact that PPPoE is actually PPPoEoA why bother to add another layer?
PPPoA also preserves IP addresss as there is only one IP assigned.

What are the downsides? Well for providers PPPoA is a pain for support and install purposes - rather that have one client, each device has its own specific drivers. Devices can appear either as RAS devices, or NICs.

You also cannot use PPPoA with ethernet modems - there are a couple of exceptions here but once again they include loading device specific software on the clients PC.
Each PPP session requires a separate PVC. This requires configuration of the CPE and the aggregator, so no dynamic PPP sessions.




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Reply #9 on: March 24, 2008, 11:39:29 AM
If you have an WEB interface to change settings in your modem make sure that:

Encapsulation is set to PPPoA

and for the Multiplex you have to try which works the best

LLC or VC (unless you know what yer ISP uses).

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Reply #10 on: March 24, 2008, 12:11:06 PM
All those are ok and are what the ISP advised.

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Reply #11 on: March 24, 2008, 13:29:09 PM
In XP (if you have IP6 added) you cannot change any IP6 settings.

Have you tried speed with bittorrent client shut down ?

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Reply #12 on: March 24, 2008, 13:35:29 PM
uninstall IPv6.  Seriously, if that is causing issues then dump it.  You wont need v6 until well after Windows 7 arrives anyway.  

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Reply #13 on: March 24, 2008, 13:37:47 PM
Is it causing the issue?  It seemed fine before the switch although I dont recall if it was limited or not.  How do I uninstall it?

Should I be on public or private network? :)

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Reply #14 on: March 24, 2008, 13:42:02 PM
Quote from: Eagle
Is it causing the issue?  It seemed fine before the switch although I dont recall if it was limited or not.  How do I uninstall it?

Should I be on public or private network? :)


urgh Vista.

Just open up the network connections, right click>Properties

Then click on IPv6, and press the uninstall button under the box.  Then reboot and you should have fewer issues.  Its not well integrated, and reminds me of when MS added IPv4 to NT4.  That was horribly crap as well.

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