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Console wars: PS5 vs Xbox Series X
on: June 12, 2020, 06:58:24 AM
Finally,
Console wars are back on. Let's be 15/16 year old fan boys again.


Xbox has to really show some games off and both have to reveal the price but what is your take now Sony has finally revealed a bit more?


For me..


- I think Microsoft will come out cheaper based on the chatter
- Microsoft have really made a big effort to try and jump ahead with everything anyone would want. This gen they have half the sales of Playstation and got beat by the switch too!
- Microsoft's online and backward compatibility options look a lot stronger with older games even getting things like HDR through machine learning
- Sony has clearly put some work in reducing latency throughput with their SSD as well as the SSD but both consoles have and I think prefer Xbox as it seems there were clear engineering decisions and not driven by anything else.

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Reply #1 on: June 12, 2020, 09:06:54 AM
HDR retrospectively added will be trashy I reckon. Its already used poorly in a lot of cases where its not been factored in from the start.

PS5 is still backwards compatible with PS4, I'm not sure what else you could want?

The consistent issue with Xbox is that it's really just another PC and everything will therefore be available to PC, the only reason Microsoft hold ground is because Xbox Live Game Pass & Gold are such stunning offerings, and PS4 hardware has been janky sh*te.

For the casual console player that owns a PC and Xbox One X already, PS5 seems like a no-brainer given the volume of exclusives. If you've watched the full PS5 tech demo for devs you'll see they've got a good chance of smashing it out of the park this time vs MS too. I I'm not sure what the situation is with the drive, is it for 4k films too? I expect I will need to buy the version with 4k BD drive included for backwards compatible games in any case.

Current known PS5 exclusives, there's four there I've highlighted that I'd be interested in right away:

  • Deathloop
  • Kena: Bridge of the Spirits
  • Astro's Playroom
  • Demon's Souls Remake
  • Destruction All Stars
  • Godfall
  • Goodbye Volcano High
  • Gran Turismo 7
  • Horizon: Forbidden West
  • Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales
  • Project Athia (Working Title)
  • Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
  • Returnal
  • Sackboy: A Big Adventure


Stray looks interesting too, I wonder if that will make the exclusives list.
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Reply #2 on: June 12, 2020, 12:29:57 PM
I've literally just upgraded to a One X.  None of the PS4 exclusive games were of any interest to me, and I never got on with the pad design.
Had a PS3, and only got it for Gran Turismo, but Prologue was the better game.  When the full game came out it was a step backwards.  Forza wiped the floor with it.
All the mates I play with have Xbox, so it was a no brainer for me.

I'll not be picking up a PS5.  Or a Series X really as I don't want to upgrade my TV to get the best out of it.
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Reply #3 on: June 12, 2020, 12:52:01 PM
Forza bores me, I'm not sure what it is about it but it just doesn't feel right. Horizon 3 was fun but 4 was garbage, Motorsport 7 was meh. :dunno:

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Reply #4 on: June 12, 2020, 15:25:38 PM
Forza bores me, I'm not sure what it is about it but it just doesn't feel right. Horizon 3 was fun but 4 was garbage, Motorsport 7 was meh. :dunno:

I've gone back to playing GT1 and 2 on the Playstation Classic, they seem better than the modern Gran Turismo's for me.
Project Cars and Assetto Corsa are good for proper proper simulations.
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Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 15:30:21 PM
I don't mind getting a console, providing I don't have to use one of the stupid controllers. Can barely hold one of the damn things.

So for me, none of the above, unless I can use keyboard and mouse control.

Still looking for a new RPG to play badly.

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Reply #6 on: June 13, 2020, 12:16:37 PM
I've gone back to playing GT1 and 2 on the Playstation Classic, they seem better than the modern Gran Turismo's for me.
Project Cars and Assetto Corsa are good for proper proper simulations.

The thing I've always loved with Gran Tourismo that keeps me coming back to it is the focus it puts on the cars, not just the racing. I used to spend hours just fiddling around in the menus looking at and tweaking the cars.

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Reply #7 on: June 13, 2020, 19:09:10 PM
Whatever your view on the new PS5 design, it's hard not to be impressed with this if it's true... apparently all the texture in the PS5, Dualsense, the camera and the headset is all X O □ ∆ symbols:





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Reply #8 on: June 15, 2020, 05:36:03 AM
HDR retrospectively added will be trashy I reckon. Its already used poorly in a lot of cases where its not been factored in from the start.


They have shown it off - No, its really clever and looks really good! Digital Foundry got given a look and they were impressed.

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Yes and no, everything from Sony has been very clear, very strange, they do not really know... All things so far indicate they were already rushing to get this out this year and COVID-19 has made this worrse.

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Reply #9 on: June 15, 2020, 05:40:26 AM
Forza bores me, I'm not sure what it is about it but it just doesn't feel right. Horizon 3 was fun but 4 was garbage, Motorsport 7 was meh. :dunno:


I lost interest in racing games full stop really. They all felt the same, repetitive nature of things and just became boring for me.

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Reply #10 on: June 15, 2020, 05:45:34 AM
Whatever your view on the new PS5 design, it's hard not to be impressed with this if it's true... apparently all the texture in the PS5, Dualsense, the camera and the headset is all X O □ ∆ symbols:





I am on the other boat with a lot of people. I am not impressed.

The controller has a number of nice elements including that texture but for me DESIGN was a focus over anything else.


- The digital version was designed first, the disc drive version defiantly looks like a "This is the design, how we put on a drive now?" and the design look suffers from that.
- There is likely to be a black version
- Lots of meme's of course but there is a growing nature of the lady's part's looks and the feminists are kicking up a fuss apparently. It is supposed to represent v for 5.
- I do not hate the look, I just think that as a designer I can see what they went for and wonder at what costs as a result. The XBox design is clean and I do personally like it better but outside of that I can see for form and function etc going in there.


I am not saying Sony has not put thought into their console but everything so far on the console, online, games etc all lead to it looking like they are resting on their success. Relying on their majority stake in player base this generation to cross over. If the price is crazy high that will just re-iterate (Which may have leaked out) that.
I think Microsoft have been building back up with nearly all the original heads on this generation gone, rebuilding, buying game companies, sorting out a lot of things and working towards not just a console but a gaming platform for their user base to get into.

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Reply #11 on: June 15, 2020, 08:10:02 AM
Forza bores me, I'm not sure what it is about it but it just doesn't feel right. Horizon 3 was fun but 4 was garbage, Motorsport 7 was meh. :dunno:


I lost interest in racing games full stop really. They all felt the same, repetitive nature of things and just became boring for me.

Maybe I'm getting old but that's the same kind of feeling I've been getting. I hope I can get back into GT if I do get a PS5.

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Reply #12 on: June 15, 2020, 08:15:24 AM
I actually think the PS5 looks more like an MS product and the new Xbox mini fridge looks more like a Sony product, they could have easily swapped design teams. PS5 will fit in AV cabinets and the like much better though, they are all designed around rectangular units like BD players and Sky boxes. It doesn't seem like you would be able to fit the new Xbox sideways in many units (can you even turn it on its side or is this basically a PC case?)

I'll also wager that the PS5 is one of those designs that's going to look a lot better in the flesh. I mean let's face it, everyone rags on the designs of every new console when they first appear and over time they gain legend status, this will be no different. You can't please everyone after all.

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Reply #13 on: June 16, 2020, 02:06:33 AM
Forza bores me, I'm not sure what it is about it but it just doesn't feel right. Horizon 3 was fun but 4 was garbage, Motorsport 7 was meh. :dunno:


I lost interest in racing games full stop really. They all felt the same, repetitive nature of things and just became boring for me.

Maybe I'm getting old but that's the same kind of feeling I've been getting. I hope I can get back into GT if I do get a PS5.


It maybe that. There is some great skill on driving of course but I think to get real driving out of it you need a steering wheel, peddles and chair setup to do it right with these modern hyper realistic games. Controllers do not cut it.


For me as well I am just into much more tactical based games. There is still the core problem of play time = best gear/stats over real skill in 99% of games but I enjoy things like Division 2, battlefield which have more skill requirements involved.
I not been able to touch my console because of the wife and kids watching TV but I was let down by one of the last Assassins Cree games (the one in Egypt) as people like it but while I liked the combat changes I found the story dull and could not get into it. Dragon ball Fighter Z was AWESOME but no one local to play and after just 2-3 weeks release when I picked it up people online were just insane and almost impossible as a casual gamer to play online.

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Reply #14 on: June 16, 2020, 02:24:44 AM
I actually think the PS5 looks more like an MS product and the new Xbox mini fridge looks more like a Sony product, they could have easily swapped design teams. PS5 will fit in AV cabinets and the like much better though, they are all designed around rectangular units like BD players and Sky boxes. It doesn't seem like you would be able to fit the new Xbox sideways in many units (can you even turn it on its side or is this basically a PC case?)

I'll also wager that the PS5 is one of those designs that's going to look a lot better in the flesh. I mean let's face it, everyone rags on the designs of every new console when they first appear and over time they gain legend status, this will be no different. You can't please everyone after all.


I have to disagree. The Xbox Series X can sit on the side as well. I think the PS5 dimension specs put out, as many have commented will be more of a pain than the more straight forward Xbox. As I mentioned a lot of the talk on the custom cooling working into a design and the fin design causing obstruction to the venting shown is a concern by many - quite a few articles up on that with people wanting to get their hands on it to have a look. Digital Foundry have already raised concern noting they saw the inside of the new Xbox and the cooling solution was well thought out there.


Can not please everyone but I will defiantly stake that the PS5 design will cause more issues with people and possible issues with manufacture and build quality and cooling with it, especially with the early version from everything I have seen.
It also seems to lack the ports and you CAN Not expand on the storage is something that will also matter I think in the long run.

I think Sony and their 10 versions in 3 years with different storage spec and package options wont work any more.

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