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Re:Firefox 3 This Tuesday
Reply #60 on: June 24, 2008, 02:29:24 AM
M3ta7h3ad  Being honest and serious I am laughing at you because yes you are massively wrong But I am pissed how you treat people here especially me which is wrong so that comes over.
BUT, You can have your opinion that is cool but you did more in this thread then this making many errors and many again just because you do not like me you did not read posts properly.
Honestly you are wrong, But its sooo much in the wrong in terms of what you think the web is, development, what it means and what standards are and what they mean (because you say "pah" to standards yet refer to elements of them as being essential at the same time for example) It would just be far to long to explain to you and to get you up to speed.
I just been put in the hot seat 4 weeks into my work to design the new University (more then one in the country) that is from 2 that are merging and to do the site design and be one of the guys that will then develop it. This is a MASSIVE site with different development stages and more And I am bricking it already as its a LOT of money yet the boss feels I am the man for the job.

If you honestly willing to read up I can give you some really cool stuff to read up if you really want to learn about it more But it is a lot you seem to need to get clued up on in regard to this. As I said just search engines alone if your below par on some basic standards you know google will NOT list you as just one example of what it all means.


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Reply #61 on: June 24, 2008, 08:51:39 AM
I am beginning to wonder if the FSM blessed you with eyes.

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cross-platform code doesnt rule out standards at all.


Doesnt exactly say "pah to standards"

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cross-platform code doesnt rule out standards at all.

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Reply #62 on: June 24, 2008, 09:25:06 AM
ok, Time to end it now since your just determined to be rather childish. Your selective reading, backtracking and adjustments to match responses (which makes you contradict yourself ^^ ) Etc is rather boring now.

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What is the point of coding to "standards" when the largest market share (bacon well done for pointing out the obvious, it doesnt change a thing however) browser fails to display it.


And then the is all the other stuff you said, anyone and everyone can just look at your posts and see it all, unless you go and edit your posts or remove them it is rather obvious M3ta7h3ad so there is not even any point trying to hide etc from it all.

Your misjudged on the subject and do not fully understand it - So what, that is not a big issue, its all the crap you have said on top of it and the way you have done so as mentioned. With all the stuff you say about me and your constantly doing these things at the moment, quite hypercritical, wrong and lots of double standards on your part.

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Re:Firefox 3 This Tuesday
Reply #63 on: June 24, 2008, 09:32:45 AM
Oh, forgot, to just drill in the sh*teness of IE and to continue to bring the points home
Google have made something the dogs bollucks.

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IE7 is a JavaScript library to make Microsoft Internet Explorer behave like a standards-compliant browser. It fixes many HTML and CSS issues and makes transparent PNG work correctly under IE5 and IE6.

Like google? They are saying this, want to argue with what google things with IE? Search google Developers and IE and see all the comments, goes agaisnt all your thinking even further, as I said You can just go on and on and on to show how wrong in your thinking you are.
The PNG fix has been around for a while but this is a great big improvement.

There is some discussion with developers about the workings on this, Not sure what MS will do but there is talk of even more big security flaws in IE then initially thought with IE. As everyone knows in terms of malicious JS IE is the most vulnerable and while this fix is WICKED in terms of development its also a big concern

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Reply #64 on: June 24, 2008, 14:19:38 PM
This thread moved from an announcement of firefox, to discussion of new features its supporting, to me saying supporting the new features is dangerous (which it is in this case), to a random browser cockfight, then moved to nexus completely missing the point.

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cross-platform code doesnt rule out standards at all.


Paraphrased for nexus: If you want to code to standards, brilliant, however blindly coding to standards and nothing else is dangerous especially when that standard isnt fully supported by (ugh) "the largest market share".

As a web developer I will expect you to use either cross-platform standard tags that are supported, or to put in workarounds to display the webpage as you intended for other browsers.

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What is the point of coding to "standards" when the largest market share (bacon well done for pointing out the obvious, it doesnt change a thing however) browser fails to display it.


Re-iterating the point. Asking you what is the benefit of coding strictly to standards when the majority of your prospective audience will not be able to view it?

Answer: None.

My suggestion to you: Code to standards, theyre great, but do it blindly at your peril. You MUST take account of cross-platform issues if you expect to be taken seriously in the web development arena.

2nd suggestion: Stop harping on about unrelated bollocks.

Response to your latest post:
Great, except running JS despite it being developed by google, could open up some nasty holes, as you suggest. Think Ill take my IE7, and run firefox on the odd occasion when sites just screw up in IE because they were coded by idiots.

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Re:Firefox 3 This Tuesday
Reply #65 on: July 01, 2008, 08:10:56 AM
Just to dig up the almost dead thread...

Firefox 3...seems ok, though slightly less stable than FF2 Ive found. Seems the plugin support install at the start was quite cool, until it turns out a lot of the video plugins werent installed or werent installed properly. Some crashes occur as a result of trying to watch some videos in FF3 now.

Also occasionally the Awesomebar decides to no longer work, requiring a restart of firefox before I can type in addresses and go to new pages that way...

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Reply #66 on: July 01, 2008, 08:21:01 AM
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Just to dig up the almost dead thread...

Firefox 3...seems ok, though slightly less stable than FF2 Ive found. Seems the plugin support install at the start was quite cool, until it turns out a lot of the video plugins werent installed or werent installed properly. Some crashes occur as a result of trying to watch some videos in FF3 now.

Also occasionally the Awesomebar decides to no longer work, requiring a restart of firefox before I can type in addresses and go to new pages that way...


This sounds one of those install issues with any browser or software tbh, googling this is not a common problem, I would try backing up your profile cleaning FF3, making sure FF2 is off and reinstall, I bet all is well then.

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Re:Firefox 3 This Tuesday
Reply #67 on: July 01, 2008, 09:13:34 AM
Quote from: zpyder
Just to dig up the almost dead thread...

Firefox 3...seems ok, though slightly less stable than FF2 Ive found. Seems the plugin support install at the start was quite cool, until it turns out a lot of the video plugins werent installed or werent installed properly. Some crashes occur as a result of trying to watch some videos in FF3 now.

Also occasionally the Awesomebar decides to no longer work, requiring a restart of firefox before I can type in addresses and go to new pages that way...


Id be inclined to agree with this. Firefox 3 seems faster but less stable than 2, with more frequent crashes and I too am seeing the awesomebar locking up on occasion, along with the back/forward/reload/stop/home buttons.

I imagine itll get sorted very soon though so Im not overly concerned.

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Reply #68 on: July 01, 2008, 09:22:29 AM
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Just to dig up the almost dead thread...

Firefox 3...seems ok, though slightly less stable than FF2 Ive found. Seems the plugin support install at the start was quite cool, until it turns out a lot of the video plugins werent installed or werent installed properly. Some crashes occur as a result of trying to watch some videos in FF3 now.

Also occasionally the Awesomebar decides to no longer work, requiring a restart of firefox before I can type in addresses and go to new pages that way...


Id be inclined to agree with this. Firefox 3 seems faster but less stable than 2, with more frequent crashes and I too am seeing the awesomebar locking up on occasion, along with the back/forward/reload/stop/home buttons.

I imagine itll get sorted very soon though so Im not overly concerned.


Reports of this on the firefox site, it is to do with the installation over firefox 2. A clean install apperently sorts the issues, its actually old ff2 files causing you problems

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Reply #69 on: July 01, 2008, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: zpyder
Just to dig up the almost dead thread...

Firefox 3...seems ok, though slightly less stable than FF2 Ive found. Seems the plugin support install at the start was quite cool, until it turns out a lot of the video plugins werent installed or werent installed properly. Some crashes occur as a result of trying to watch some videos in FF3 now.

Also occasionally the Awesomebar decides to no longer work, requiring a restart of firefox before I can type in addresses and go to new pages that way...


Id be inclined to agree with this. Firefox 3 seems faster but less stable than 2, with more frequent crashes and I too am seeing the awesomebar locking up on occasion, along with the back/forward/reload/stop/home buttons.

I imagine itll get sorted very soon though so Im not overly concerned.


Reports of this on the firefox site, it is to do with the installation over firefox 2. A clean install apperently sorts the issues, its actually old ff2 files causing you problems


Firefox was installed over a "clean" system with no traces of Firefox 2.

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Re:Firefox 3 This Tuesday
Reply #70 on: July 01, 2008, 12:25:57 PM
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Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: zpyder
Just to dig up the almost dead thread...

Firefox 3...seems ok, though slightly less stable than FF2 Ive found. Seems the plugin support install at the start was quite cool, until it turns out a lot of the video plugins werent installed or werent installed properly. Some crashes occur as a result of trying to watch some videos in FF3 now.

Also occasionally the Awesomebar decides to no longer work, requiring a restart of firefox before I can type in addresses and go to new pages that way...


Id be inclined to agree with this. Firefox 3 seems faster but less stable than 2, with more frequent crashes and I too am seeing the awesomebar locking up on occasion, along with the back/forward/reload/stop/home buttons.

I imagine itll get sorted very soon though so Im not overly concerned.


Reports of this on the firefox site, it is to do with the installation over firefox 2. A clean install apperently sorts the issues, its actually old ff2 files causing you problems


Firefox was installed over a "clean" system with no traces of Firefox 2.


Ooh, dunnu then, At work FF is using well over half the memory after the same time and things are running way way faster for me and loving the security feature, is working well saying NO to sites.

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