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Is Linux really all that great....
Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 16:19:49 PM
btw, I dont feel that bad now, you just have a broken x-server--the one thing I warned might happen. :P

Totally recoverable.

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Re:Is Linux really all that great....
Reply #16 on: March 17, 2006, 16:49:19 PM
Quote from: maximusotter

Its about freedom. With windows, Im treated like a criminal and required to pay for a closed secretive system, where I have to pay even more to get it to look anything short of fisher price.


I dont think you can really say they treat you like a criminal any more than people who lock the door to thier house treat the rest of the population like criminals. - No they dont want windows to be open source - they have commercial reasons for doing so & as far as the average PC user is concerned it doesnt really matter.

Im sure that Linux probably is faster, better looking and more stable than XP - point Im making is that XP has been hassle free for me & does the job. The only reason I can really see to spend more time joining linux forums, learning all the bits of code/commands etc.. & constantly tinkering with the thing is if it is a done as part of a hobby.

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Reply #17 on: March 17, 2006, 17:14:30 PM
I spend far less time making my Ubuntu box work than it takes to properly secure a Windows box.

Now, brummie and I do like to run bleeding edge, which is the equivalent of running Vista, and there will be problems.

My problem was so severe that it took 30 seconds to solve.

Why so easy? Because linuxs config files are plain text and located in /etc. You dont need to be an expert to edit one, jut be able to find the right file and have Nano installed.

When Windows doesnt boot properly, you almost always have to reinstall. Its disposable.

I just upgraded to the latest build of Ubuntu last night, not because I had a pressing need to, but because indeed, its fun. I ran a quick command, and when I got up this morning, I rebooted, and all the software on my box is the latest available. You gotta love that.

The world has become so reliant on MS code that it would be in governments interests to force them to open it up for scrutiny. Have them release it into the wild, and let them keep the code to Office--which is the real money maker. There are strict laws against monopolies and abusing the market with one, and MS has for some reason been able to get away with it for years. Screw them.

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Reply #18 on: March 17, 2006, 17:22:57 PM
tried all that and nowt worked

ahhhhh well :(

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Reply #19 on: March 17, 2006, 17:27:43 PM
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tried all that and nowt worked

ahhhhh well :(


time to go L337 at the way.

Youre aware that you can switch virtual consoles w/o x with ctrl+alt+f1-6?

in one you can hook up to #ubuntu via irssi:

$ irssi -c irc.freenode.net  -n brummie
$ /j #ubuntu

and have one of the uber hackers help ya.

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Reply #20 on: March 17, 2006, 17:40:38 PM
ohhh, post your vid card and xorg.conf file here and somebodys bound to find the problem. :P

if youre dual booting, just grab a copy of explore2fs to read the Ubuntu drive http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm

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Reply #21 on: March 17, 2006, 17:55:37 PM
Quote from: maximusotter
ohhh, post your vid card and xorg.conf file here and somebodys bound to find the problem. :P

if youre dual booting, just grab a copy of explore2fs to read the Ubuntu drive http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm


unfortunately its reiserfs

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Reply #22 on: March 17, 2006, 18:01:40 PM

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Reply #23 on: March 17, 2006, 18:32:17 PM
TBPFH i couldnt wait so i reinstalled the badger  :D

:Woot:

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Reply #24 on: March 17, 2006, 18:49:59 PM
tsk tsk. Impatient. :P


I think red hosed his install as well. I shouldnt be putting ideas in your heads. :P

I think the same thing happened when I upgraded from Hoary to Breezy. Im like "it was soooo easy" then everybody else hoses their installs as I got lucky.

:rofl:

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Reply #25 on: March 17, 2006, 19:04:49 PM
Oh well

Im installed and updated and 95% where i was before i borked it  :D

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Reply #26 on: March 17, 2006, 19:24:15 PM
Im still curious as why I can update nightly with only one initial little tweak needed and yall have major issues. :hmm:

A lotta work to get back to where ya started. :lol:

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Reply #27 on: March 17, 2006, 19:26:53 PM
Quote from: maximusotter
Im still curious as why I can update nightly with only one initial little tweak needed and yall have major issues. :hmm:

A lotta work to get back to where ya started. :lol:


No work at all, all done LOL

I think i borked mine when you get asked at about 75% do you want to change your GDM, the default was no but i chose the bleedin edge  :D

One draw back me menu.lst is about two pages long

*note to self, edit me grub menu  :lol:

Re:Is Linux really all that great....
Reply #28 on: March 18, 2006, 09:17:18 AM
Same thing happened to me going from Warty to hoary :D

Linux is fun, its free, and now from using fedora in uni and so on, im as familiar with linux as I am with windows almost. Granted I dont know where things are kept all the time, but most problems I can fumble my way through with the help of others.

Theres practically no difference, however I do think most linux users say "theres less that goes wrong" because they dont know how to see whats going wrong :)

I wonder how many check their error logs on linux in comparison to those who check them on windows. I check mine (on windows) on an almost daily basis, and its the first thing I go to if I get an unexpected crash or reboot.

Linux, if I crash, I reboot X and carry on going not because its stable, or better, but because I dont know how to trace a problem, so whats the point in worrying over it I ignore it, in windows I chase it, I google, and I try fixes that inevitably break something else in it. :D

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Reply #29 on: March 18, 2006, 12:10:18 PM
Its pretty good, give it 3-4yrs and itll be a viable alternative to windows for average users (i.e. those who dont want to spend time editing config files and running text commands), but it depends what M$ do in that time.

Its worth playing with still, something like Ubuntu is less painful to install than XP is; things have come on a long way in the past few years and getting a net/email/office box up n running is a doddle.


* Willing to stand corrected on any of the above :)
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

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