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Re: Microserver OS and Cloud Storage
Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 11:22:13 AM
Glacier looks very interesting. For my current photo requirements it'd cost me less than 10p a month, heh. Also, photos are the kinds of things that get stored away somewhere and only looked at very ocassionally. Sounds perfect for Glacier.

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Reply #16 on: September 22, 2012, 15:14:27 PM
Everyone uses Amazon S3, its a great platform, it's very reliable. $20 for 2TB of storage per month is pretty decent, that does sound ideal for most people's backup solutions.

it sounds good for things like photos etc...

but £130 a year for 2TB is a bit steep.... might as well just buy the drives for that...

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Reply #17 on: September 23, 2012, 13:26:21 PM
Everyone uses Amazon S3, its a great platform, it's very reliable. $20 for 2TB of storage per month is pretty decent, that does sound ideal for most people's backup solutions.

it sounds good for things like photos etc...

but £130 a year for 2TB is a bit steep.... might as well just buy the drives for that...

I dont know about you but my 2 TB drives don't come with N+ redundant power, cooling, fire suppression systems, aren't accessible around the world, hosted across multiple sites and store data in such a manner to guarantee its safety, nor come with a little man who replaces them in the middle of the night if they fail :)

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Reply #18 on: September 23, 2012, 15:49:23 PM
I can see his point though, buy two 2TB drives (although they aren't quite cheaper than the cost) and already you've got a redundant backup to lock away somewhere.

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Reply #19 on: September 23, 2012, 19:45:42 PM
I dont know about you but my 2 TB drives don't come with N+ redundant power, cooling, fire suppression systems, aren't accessible around the world, hosted across multiple sites and store data in such a manner to guarantee its safety, nor come with a little man who replaces them in the middle of the night if they fail :)

easy to have a drive somewhere else /work/parents/mates house etc... easy to setup access from anywhere

but I guess if my house and factory both burn down... I'll loose some photos... omg n NO !!!!!!!

if there's a power cut at both sites... I won't be able to access my data for a while... big woop

etc. etc.

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Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 09:46:21 AM
Depends how much the data means to you. I was talking about this with a mate at work....

Dropbox, Box, Google Drive, Skydrive - These services give enough data for most people to backup documents / important information.
Flickr Pro ($24 p/year) gives you unlimited photo storage (normal peoples photos aren't over 50mb each).
YouTube will allow most people to backup any home video in a quality they are happy with.

So that leaves movies/tv shows/music/games which take up the majority of space on peoples computers/devices... no matter how they were obtained (legally or illegally) they can easily be downloaded again - even if you uploaded to a cloud service somewhere you would still need to download them again from that so why bother?
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Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 14:13:09 PM
I'm thinking of consolidating my current two machines into one. I currently have an XBMC/Satellite box doing its thing whilst the microserver does its unRAID tricks rather neatly, although I think something in sabnzbd is causing it to fall over every once in a while. The Satellite function never panned out as I hoped, mythtv is just too clunky right now for my needs.

Snapraid looks like the perfect replacement for unraid in that it'll allow me to run a full linux os, afaik I can do things like exclude the OS from parity calculations so that only data I'm storing in the microserver will be backed up. The full linux os will then allow me to stick my XBMC install onto it, I will hopefully be able to get it to automatically back up photos/videos to whatever method I decide to go with in the future too.

So, with a decent graphics card to do all the decoding is there anything I need to be aware of from a performance viewpoint on the microserver?

Also, are there any full distros that'll run off a usb stick without causing lotsa writes and all that? Once its entirely configured it should just be a matter of leaving things be or will even reading from it a lot cause problems?

Basically I'm trying to avoid using up a precious Sata connection within the microserver because eventually I'll have tons of hard drives, hopefully.

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Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 15:12:11 PM
In terms of hardware performance you should be fine for whatever you need to throw at it once you have a good enough graphics card in to do the decoding. Maybe you'd want to stick in an extra 1GB of RAM, but in terms of processor power it should be fine.

Does snapraid work in the same type of parity based RAID as unRAID? I might look into it, although I'm pretty happy with unRAID to be honest.

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Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 16:32:38 PM
As far as I can tell, snapraid has pretty much the same option as unRAID in terms of the parity based redundancy. The main reason I'm interested in it is because I wont be tied down to the os like with unRAID.

I'm gonna do a bit of digging soon enough to work everything out.

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Reply #24 on: October 02, 2012, 23:34:37 PM
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/aufsRootFileSystemOnUsbFlash - Gonna follow that to create a Lubuntu install on a USB stick and make it read only. Nothing, in theory, will need to be written to the system if everything is set up correctly. Media file serving with parity drive and some other little bits and pieces like sabnzbd that seem to be making UnRAID fall over at the moment.

It'll also means I should be able to do things like automated backup easier because ubuntu is well supported and there are loads of guides for idiots about. RAM size will be the thing I need to be careful of though, as its currently the shipped standard I think I'm gonna have to increase that to the max 8GB if I'm to essentially run everything off RAM.

Acquired a UPS too, so I'll have that set up to ensure any power failure will make it shutdown nice and safely. Of course, a read only OS means it'll boot up perfectly following a shut down anyway, just means I'll keep the hard drives safe from a sudden power outage.

However, I'm not too sure XBMC will like running on a read only memory stick, so this could turn out to just be a replacement of unRAID at the moment. I'll have to see how much RAM SnapRAID and all the other stuff takes up before I commit to transferring XBMC over.

Also, my other concern with UnRAID is the limit on the number of drives. Obviously you can pay for more but at £100 or so for the full version it isn't cheap, and I'd much rather spend that money on a hard drive at the moment. SnapRAID should hopefully do everything I need without having to pay out and by the sounds of it, its very reliable.
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Reply #25 on: October 03, 2012, 00:26:13 AM
From reading a bit about snapraid the only thing I didn't really like is the fact that it's not realtime, not that that is a huge issue. I do like the fact it can go on a Windows install too. The only offputting thing is the daunting prospect of having to try and port 5TB of data over to it.

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Reply #26 on: October 03, 2012, 01:15:02 AM
Do you have to port data over to it? Surely with the data on the hard drives it'll just be a matter of calculating the parity again? It might take a bit of time but it shouldn't be that bad. Unless I'm mistaken...

I'll have to look into it more anyhow. Got a few others things to look at too, such as my router and satellite set ups.

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Reply #27 on: October 03, 2012, 09:09:48 AM
unRAID uses the ReiserFS filesystem, while the data is easily accessible provided you go through unRAID I don't think you can simply swap them out to a different system (unless that also happens to use or can read ReiserFS, like another flavour of linux).

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Reply #28 on: October 03, 2012, 14:37:51 PM
If you've got a rooted Android phone, I can hook you up with a 50gb dropbox account for 2 years :D

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Reply #29 on: October 04, 2012, 00:55:16 AM
unRAID uses the ReiserFS filesystem, while the data is easily accessible provided you go through unRAID I don't think you can simply swap them out to a different system (unless that also happens to use or can read ReiserFS, like another flavour of linux).

Ubuntu support reiserfs out of the box from what I've read. Bought myself the 8gb of RAM required for the microserver today, so this is a goer, I think :/

I just have to convince the wife everything will be ok. If I lose the photos I reckon this could be one of my penultimate posts.

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