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Chat => Entertainment & Technology => Topic started by: Walrusbonzo on April 16, 2006, 23:25:57 PM
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Hi guys and gals....
While Ive been away Ive been practicing my guitar playing and have started to write some songs. Some of which I have recorded on my phone(All thats available at the moment until my PC comes.)
Heres one I did today. I was washing the pots and off the top of my head I sang the first two lines. Then, sang a little more, thought it was ok so wrote it in my book, grabbed my guitar and started recording. What youll hear is literally my one and only practice/take/recording of the song, so its quite experimental as all the guitaring was improvised as I went along. But I think it sounds ok, infact pretty good seeing as it took less than 30 minutes from having nothing to having this recording.
So what you all think? Please all be completely honest :D
If anyone is interested in hearing anymore, let me know.
Hmm, having issues attaching the file :( Anyone want to host or know a good place to upload random files?
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rapidshare.de works great. :thumbup:
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either that or Ill be happy to host it for a while.
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rapidshare.de works great. :thumbup:
Cheers dude!
Heres the link.
Link removed, hurts Cl0ckd 0nes ears!
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DO i dare click and here the walrus sing?
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I dares you!!!!! :twisted:
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Do I dare download it....
"This file has been downloaded 1 times already" LOL :D
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Not getting much feedback :(
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The intro starts off a bit slow IMO, I kept on expecting it to turn into watch with mother TBH :whoops: During the vocals the phone isnt anywhere near up to the point of giving a reasonable rendition unfortunately.
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I couldnt comment on a phone recording tbh.
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.amr? Whats that?
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Dunno, format the phone records in, but it plays in Real Player.
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.amr? Whats that?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_Multi-Rate
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Right, recorded on my PC now. Had to do guitar first then do singing and put together. Dont think its got the same energy as the first recording, probably because I used my acoustic then and I was in a bad mood when I sung it the first time, LOL. But it sounds a whole lot better!!!
http://rapidshare.de/files/19222254/Girl_Across_The_Street.mp4.html
Please let me know what you think.
Cheers
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Well im leanring the Guitar atm and can honestly say your miles ahead of me on it. The start and end were a bit too long for me but that might be personal preference. Instrument also seems alot louder than the vocals but that might be dodgy recording.
Pretty impressed overall - well done. Hope i get that good.
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There really isnt anything complicated about the guitar playing, I still need lots of practice.
hmm, I thought I got the guitar/vocal balance about right :?
Not a dodgy recording.... I did both seperate, must have been my post-processing thats naff.... Mind you, first time Ive ever done any of this kinda stuff :)
Thanks for feedback.
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Nice song, good music. very well played. Vocal highs are a little bit wobbly though, sounds as if you are forcing it, ease back just a little bit.
All IMO though and I could be completely wrong. I cant sing for tuppence and my playing, well I would throw myself out...
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Nice song, good music. very well played. Vocal highs are a little bit wobbly though, sounds as if you are forcing it, ease back just a little bit.
All IMO though and I could be completely wrong. I cant sing for tuppence and my playing, well I would throw myself out...
Little bit wobbly for sure, never done much singing before, I do need a lot of practice.
Cheers
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Recorded a new song tonight.
Let me know what you think dudes :)
http://rapidshare.de/files/19308223/No_Turning_Back.mp4.html
Its got some horrible crackling :( But other than, that sounds not too bad.
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I got the first download :)
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And you want the second too... Quite a different song.... Much slower.
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Nah, I got the first download of the second one :lol:
Playing No turning back now.
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Erm... only heard the second song.
Personally... I think you need some voice coaching to learn how to not go all wailey.
Its alright though, just I dont think your voice is up to it. Check out some local voice coaches and keep trying Id say.
Edit:
Little tip I picked up when I used to sing in choirs and stuffs.
If you have a high pitched part, BELT IT OUT... really yell it out, stand up.. breathe in deep and sing it as loud as possible. Youll find with the increased airflow (you cant sit down for high parts.. it just fecks up) your voice falters less.
Use post-processing afterwards to bring the levels into kilter... perform fades using the post-processing (spesh at the end of that second song) its better to have a clear wavering free note faded out by electronics, than it is to try and emulate a mixer with your throat.
Edit 2: Also... got the 2nd download of the 2nd one :) so that makes me 1337er than serious :P lol
Edit 3: Played it through for the 3rd time. Really... sing the song louder thats whats needed. More airflow stops the faltering, just belt it out. Place the microphone further away if your getting clipping on the mic.
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When you play its great.
When you sing though.
Its no good using just the tops of your lungs and forcing it, the result is squeaky. What you need to do is go right down and sing from your stomach, use that area for breathing while singing. Keep your chin up and level too, plenty of people who play and sing drop theirs to look at the guitar and cut off their voice in the process.
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I hear what youre saying, I was singing too quiet on "No Turning Back"......
Ill do the vocal again sometime when I fee linspired ;)
Thanks for the feedback, itll come in handy.
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When you play its great.
When you sing though.
Its no good using just the tops of your lungs and forcing it, the result is squeaky. What you need to do is go right down and sing from your stomach, use that area for breathing while singing. Keep your chin up and level too, plenty of people who play and sing drop theirs to look at the guitar and cut off their voice in the process.
Im not playing and singing at the same time...... But I am sitting while "singing".
Ill give it another go and try belting it out, I guess I dont put too much effort into the singing. Ive still not really found my voice either which is an issue.
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You would be best singing country and western from those two but things change over time.
Dont look at the computer or other equipment either and you would probably be better off standing too, sitting isnt good for proper breathing technique ;)
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Dont worry about finding your voice, itll come of its own accord whilst your singing it, certainly do not try and control it if you cant sing that high... sing an octave lower.... do a dry run, and remember the places where you just couldnt reach without sounding like your straining.
When belting it out I mean... standing up... singing straight out dont look down, dont look up, just look straight ahead... have a staring competition with the wall, and sing as loud as you can without trying to strain it.
I think your main problem to be honest is sitting down. You cant sing sitting down, noone can. well... a stool maybe, bit in a normal chair you end up cutting off half of your lung capacity.
I used to be exactly the same, Id slouch too... key to a decent range is posture to be honest, much more than vocal cords. Everyone can train vocal cords to act accordingly (like the hand vulcan thing... its just a muscle), but the key is to get that air... through the thing. Put earplugs in if you need to, and sing it.
Its why I think a voice coach will do you a damn good service, and I bet the very first thing theyll have you doing is standing upright in a room singing and telling you to belt out the high parts. Consider just an hours tuition even.
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When you play its great.
When you sing though.
Its no good using just the tops of your lungs and forcing it, the result is squeaky. What you need to do is go right down and sing from your stomach, use that area for breathing while singing. Keep your chin up and level too, plenty of people who play and sing drop theirs to look at the guitar and cut off their voice in the process.
Forgot to add... serious is almost right there. :)
When I used to sing in choir and on stage our bloke who taught us the songs and parts used to have 3 kinds of people, pear, apple, and pigeons.
Majority of people used to be pigeons.. theyd breathe using only the top part of their lungs, which is fine for day to day stuff, but hed tell them to practice breathing properly.
Pears... people who were conscious of people seeing them singing... theyd breathe great.. fill their lungs, but then tighten their chests when nervous and dampen their voices so others sung over them and they couldnt be heard as much.
Apples... people who had gotten over the pigeon and pear stages... learnt to breathe using the whole of their lungs. its the shape their chests will make. Notice operatic singers have full chests, and stomachs when singing.
Everyone is a pigeon or a pear... you just have to relax.. breathe... and sing. Dont strain or hold your breath... if you need to breathe in a song, breathe. Like I said, do a dry run, find out where your weak points are... sort them out, then sing properly :)
If you want to sound good, you dont need fancy equipment just put some effort into your singing, if your sounding crap try again and again for like an hour or so until youve nailed at least one section of it. I used to have to do it for rehearsals (singing "I can show you the world" from aladdin to myself in the study was a rather embarassing experience when my mates came to call one day :D lol but it was a thing I had to do) just give it a go :)
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Can only echo the above. Great guitar skills.
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Just started re-recording the whole thing. Got rid of the crackles from the guitar.
Best part though, Ive wrote an electric guitar solo for it, and Im seriously pissing myself with how good it sounds.
Ill do vocals later ,think Ill try doing them totally differently as this solo has put the song on its head.
For anyone familiar with Gary Moores Parisenne Walkways, this is similar, finger picking guitar backing along with a sad emotional solo.
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I cant play for sh*t so what can I say :) a bit of a long intro.
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I cant play for sh*t so what can I say :) a bit of a long intro.
EVERYONE says my intros and outros are too long, truth be told, I just like playing the guitar more than anything :)
Screw singing.... Really, the only reason I try and sing is because no one better has offered and I have lyrics that I want to put with my pieces.
Ill upload this new instrumental with the solo, I think it conveys more emotion than the one with me singing.
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http://rapidshare.de/files/19336752/No_Turning_Back_instumental.mp4.html
Here it is guys, same backing, this time guitar solo, not vocals.
Nothing too fancy, wanted to convey emotion more than sound like Van Halen.
Let me know what you think, not too over the top?
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http://rapidshare.de/files/19336752/No_Turning_Back_instumental.mp4.html
Here it is guys, same backing, this time guitar solo, not vocals.
Nothing too fancy, wanted to convey emotion more than sound like Van Halen.
Let me know what you think, not too over the top?
The recording is poor but I think the playing is pretty good tbh
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http://rapidshare.de/files/19336752/No_Turning_Back_instumental.mp4.html
Here it is guys, same backing, this time guitar solo, not vocals.
Nothing too fancy, wanted to convey emotion more than sound like Van Halen.
Let me know what you think, not too over the top?
The recording is poor but I think the playing is pretty good tbh
Do you mean because of the buzzing? Think its because Im playing too near my pc and the guitar picks up all the emitions from my monitor
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Got another track Im working on now, need to decide on lyrics for it, if any.
But got a rythm and lead guitar.
http://rapidshare.de/files/19345089/Dual_Guitar_Instumental.mp4.html
Let me know what you think.
Cheers
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http://rapidshare.de/files/19336752/No_Turning_Back_instumental.mp4.html
Here it is guys, same backing, this time guitar solo, not vocals.
Nothing too fancy, wanted to convey emotion more than sound like Van Halen.
Let me know what you think, not too over the top?
The recording is poor but I think the playing is pretty good tbh
Do you mean because of the buzzing? Think its because Im playing too near my pc and the guitar picks up all the emitions from my monitor
Get a guitar lead that can plug into a 1.5inch jack.
So normal guitar lead with 3.5 inch plug, with a 1.5inch plug on the other end.
Plug it straight into your computer and then you can use loads of software like revalver and stuff. :)
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http://rapidshare.de/files/19336752/No_Turning_Back_instumental.mp4.html
Here it is guys, same backing, this time guitar solo, not vocals.
Nothing too fancy, wanted to convey emotion more than sound like Van Halen.
Let me know what you think, not too over the top?
The recording is poor but I think the playing is pretty good tbh
Do you mean because of the buzzing? Think its because Im playing too near my pc and the guitar picks up all the emitions from my monitor
Get a guitar lead that can plug into a 1.5inch jack.
So normal guitar lead with 3.5 inch plug, with a 1.5inch plug on the other end.
Plug it straight into your computer and then you can use loads of software like revalver and stuff. :)
Already got that :D
What software should I use for doing guitar effects?
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http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/ReValver/default.asp
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Thanks for all your help guys. Did exactly what you said and I think the vocal is 10 times better.
Will upload it in a sec minus guitar solo as it TOTALLY does not go with the vocal, so Ill re-record the solo with the vocal playing now, will be a better cue for when to actually play :D
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http://rapidshare.de/files/19336752/No_Turning_Back_instumental.mp4.html
Sounds like some bit of your setup is being overloaded on that.
The dual guitar is much better.
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willy strip it down. remember every effect is an audio filter. takes away the tone of the guitar :)
i still havent heard it.
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Ok ok, youre probably all getting sick of me and my music downloads.
But here is the final version of No Turning Back at least until I get a recording contract, LOL.
Same backing as before, new better vocal, and a new solo to go with the vocal. Its not 100%, but Im not going to waste time working on it now. I have a ton of other songs I need to get through.
Ive used absolutely no software effects on any of it. Its the song in its raw format.
Serious,as for the overloading my system, if you are referring to the lead guitar, it is deliberately overdriven to sound like that, it was the effect I wanted.
http://rapidshare.de/files/19382527/No_Turning_Back.mp4.html
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Voice part has improved quite a bit, less faltering, just needs work to get it to hit the right notes :)
Not so fussed on the overdriven guitar... just seems like it belongs in a rock song not a ballad. :)
Sounds like an eels song, but you need to just have a cleaner singer :) no offense Will :) fairly normalish lyrics (to be expected... for this type of song :)) the guitar needs working on I think, seems a bit.. er bitty :D but I think your more of a writer than a performer.
Also you finish with an imperfect cadence yet about 10 seconds before it you pause after a perfect cadence...
Songs are really meant to sound better with perfect cadence at the end unless your going for something completely abstract.
you can go perfect-imperfect-perfect to build up to an ending though :)
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Music is nice, voice much improved too but you need some training. If you want to get that recording contract you need someone standing over you giving some immediate feedback ;)
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Voice part has improved quite a bit, less faltering, just needs work to get it to hit the right notes :)
Not so fussed on the overdriven guitar... just seems like it belongs in a rock song not a ballad. :)
Sounds like an eels song, but you need to just have a cleaner singer :) no offense Will :) fairly normalish lyrics (to be expected... for this type of song :)) the guitar needs working on I think, seems a bit.. er bitty :D but I think your more of a writer than a performer.
Also you finish with an imperfect cadence yet about 10 seconds before it you pause after a perfect cadence...
Songs are really meant to sound better with perfect cadence at the end unless your going for something completely abstract.
you can go perfect-imperfect-perfect to build up to an ending though :)
I know what you mean about the ending, dont know quite what I was doing there. I do think it goes on a little long, so might decide to cut that off and fade out from the other bit.
I like the overdriven guitar in the song personally, it was exactly the feel I wanted for the song.
Anyway, Ill leave this song for another day now.
Time to move on and start another, hopefully Ill have done another by the end of the week now and Ill upload when Im happy with it.
Thanks for all your comments, much appreciated.
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Not bad Will, in fact I barely recognised the voice at first, I thought "that cant be" but Im quite surprised how good it is. I was expecting something very amateur; keep it up is what Im saying 8)
One point though, please get rid of that nasty AMR file a record it in good quality, you nearly killed my ears and my Etys :lol:
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Not bad Will, in fact I barely recognised the voice at first, I thought "that cant be" but Im quite surprised how good it is. I was expecting something very amateur; keep it up is what Im saying 8)
One point though, please get rid of that nasty AMR file a record it in good quality, you nearly killed my ears and my Etys :lol:
Thanks Nige! :)
Listen to the MP4, Ive already re-recorded the song :) Link on first page.
Im currently writing a funky sort of song with a jazz edged solo, hopefully Ill have recorded a decent solo by the weekend. Done 6 recordings, got lots of good bits in each, but all of them are seriously flawed ;)
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Thats much better, although if anything the vocals are a touch drowned out, it sounds like it could do with a touch of treble. That could just be because Ive been listening to Jack Johnson for an hour though :-)
Vocally, to me at least, it sounds like theres a bit of Gallagher creeping in :mrgreen:
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Thats much better, although if anything the vocals are a touch drowned out, it sounds like it could do with a touch of treble. That could just be because Ive been listening to Jack Johnson for an hour though :-)
Vocally, to me at least, it sounds like theres a bit of Gallagher creeping in :mrgreen:
Youre bang on with the first comment!
Anyway, I cant resist....
Heres my first attempt at funk :)
http://rapidshare.de/files/19481430/Funky_Song.mp4.html
Notes: Needs drums and bass, and needs the volume raising ;)
LOL!! Listening to it now, loving my bend at 1:13, then I play some crazy lick at 1:24 :D
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The more I listen to that the more the rhythm reminds me of Knight Rider :mrgreen:
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The more I listen to that the more the rhythm reminds me of Knight Rider :mrgreen:
LOL
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Heres what I was working on tonight.
http://rapidshare.de/files/19561285/Blues_Idea.mp4.html
Any takers?
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you need a band
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you need a band
I do and I intend to start one. Got one friend giving me a yes and we have a name :)
Need a few more though.
Have you heard the tracks?
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Walrusbonzo as a singer, still hard to picture. I hope When i come over or something you dont start singing :P
Anywhere, there is pleanty of people out there who are pritty nifty with music, check this guy out:
Many find some music stick it to their videos but actually singing, is class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqO7zEWu0W0&search=warcraft
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Better wear a blue dress than be pants :mrgreen:
Anyway theyre supposed to be robes 8)
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Anywhere, there is pleanty of people out there who are pritty nifty with music, check this guy out:
Your point?
And have you listened to any of the tracks?
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Started recruiting a band. Were gonna do jazz/funk/blues music.
Got a drummer, keyboard player, guitarist and Im gonna get myself a bass, gonna get another singer and hopefully a trumpet player :)
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dont name it willy.
let the others decide when you are ready.
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hopefully a trumpet player :)
I thought you were the strumpet player :twisted:
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Walrusbonzo as a singer, still hard to picture. I hope When i come over or something you dont start singing :P
Anywhere, there is pleanty of people out there who are pritty nifty with music, check this guy out:
Many find some music stick it to their videos but actually singing, is class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqO7zEWu0W0&search=warcraft
The song is pretty bland, and if you stripped the effects off the guys voice I think it wouldnt be half as palatable. (If you can call a World of Warcraft player whining about having to wear robes palatable).
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dont name it willy.
let the others decide when you are ready.
2 of the others like it so far :)
Ill let you all know when weve all agreed.
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Doing quite well.....
Recruited a drummer, guitarist, keyboard player and a bassist, just need another singer.
Met the guitarist last night, we have a lot of the same tastes in music and both love doing the same sort of guitar playing styles.
Think we might do some jazz/rock fusion too as we all love that sort of thing too.
Anyone know of any good websites for advertising for singers. Want to get a REALLY good singer, not someone thats "ok", want someone that is technically great. Male or Female, but would need to share the same tastes and be creative and want to contribute ideas to songs.
Band name, looks like its going to be Walrusbonzo & The Hip Replacements :D
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tbh it sounds quite gay.
let them decide on a name when they have gelled as a band. otherwise your forcing them to take a direction you havent even found yet.
you music will change with other people playing with you.
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tbh it sounds quite gay.
let them decide on a name when they have gelled as a band. otherwise your forcing them to take a direction you havent even found yet.
you music will change with other people playing with you.
Well, I think youre wrong seeing as we all like the band name and we all want to do the same music.