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Chat => Entertainment & Technology => Topic started by: zpyder on September 04, 2016, 21:39:33 PM
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I'm going out on a limb here and hoping it's possible to get a phone discussion going that doesn't degenerate into either fanboyism or hatred of one form of phone or another.
Essentially, my contract ended several months ago, and up until now I've been on a cheap sim only deal on GiffGaff saving money not being on an expensive contract, as well as putting money by, to buy a new phone outright and maybe stay on GiffGaff. There's plans to move country in the near future, and so I don't want to be tied down on contracts.
I'm curious what peoples views are on the current phone offerings, including the iPhone 7, to be announced on Wednesday.
My most recent phones go something like the following (oldest to most recent):
HTC Desire
iPhone 4
Galaxy S3
HTC One M8
You'll notice there's an iPhone 4 sandwiched in the list. I'm finding it difficult to remember my exact motivations, but I think I bought the desire based upon some sort of understanding it was meant to be a flagship phone, but from memory found ti fell quite short of the mark, prompting the iPhone 4. Similarly I can't remember my reasons for moving from the iPhone to the S3. Again I think the S3 fell a bit short of the mark, and was quite clunky from day one. The M8 on the other hand has been a fairly solid performer. There have been a few gripes, the dual camera system is a bit of a gimmick and picture quality is pretty pants, having the option of expandable storage is all great and everything, but I found the way Android treats non-system memory to be a bit of a handicap. Also the phone is suffering from that classic 2-year old phone issue of suddenly getting a bit unstable and buggy. All my personalisation reset itself a few weeks ago, alarms, ringtones etc. For no reason.
Are the new Galaxy phones all that? I've seen some colleagues with what I assume are last years models and they look quite worn, which is surprising. I'm also curious about the differences between iOS and Android. I think I'm past rooting my phones and customising them much, and would rather have something solid and well built. I appreciate that Android hardware is quite impressive with epic resolution etc, but at the same time I'm left thinking that all the extra hardware needs that extra power, so performance might balance out, whilst on paper the specs don't.
I'll stop there before my internal phone debate continues into even more mindless drivel....
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i strayed from iphone to htc one m8
worst decision ever.
back to an iphone 6s plus now.
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What we're the bits that you hated / liked? If say the m8 has been the best android phone I've had yet so am curious what you find it is lacking when compared to the iPhone?
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If your present phone does everything you want then stick with that, especially if you might move out of the country.
Phones are now starting to hit the point of diminishing returns from upgrading.
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I've had iPhones in the past as work phones and hated their restrictive nature. I can't get half the apps that I need to manage my HTPC on there without pissing about and attempting a jailbreak.
There's a world of difference between a good and bad Android phone, and for me Samsung fall into the BAD category for two reasons.
Lies and Updates.
Basically, they lie about you getting updates. The trend goes:
Phone comes out with Android version A.
Promise Version B 6 months after launch of said Android version.
No Version B arrives.
Promise Version C.
When C Finally arrives, it nerfs the performance of the phone.
Rinse, Repeat.
Happened with my S1, Wife's S2 and mine and friends S3. Reports of it happening to newer handsets all over the internet.
I go with Nexus phones now. Had a 5, got a 6 and waiting to see what the new ones hold.
LG are good these days, as are Huawei and Motorola (avoiding the G)
I don't rate HTC (which is a shame, as they are making the new Nexus apparently, so I might skip that) and get last years 6P or the Huawei P9.
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I still use my old Nokia N9 :) but I am hearing good things about this one (friend has a oneplus 1 and is really pleased with it, durable and fast)
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-3-1323353/review
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I still use my old Nokia N9 :) but I am hearing good things about this one (friend has a oneplus 1 and is really pleased with it, durable and fast)
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/oneplus-3-1323353/review
Ah nokia, mine is a 6 year old nokia, £5 a month :)
"Modern" phones do my nut in, lack of battery power, too bulky, but I've always got my eye on an "upgrade" so will watch this thread with interest!
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What we're the bits that you hated / liked? If say the m8 has been the best android phone I've had yet so am curious what you find it is lacking when compared to the iPhone?
liked none of it
hated all of it.
tell a lie - i liked how you can dial someone by typing in their name.
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You might want to avoid the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 for the moment, seems some of the batteries can explode or burst into flames and they are being recalled.
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I recently bought a Oneplus 3. It's Samsung Galaxy S7 / iPhone 6 level tech for about half the price.
After reading and watching many favourable reviews I went ahead and got one. Very impressed so far. Well worth a look.
https://oneplus.net/uk
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I've still got an iphone 4... though it does need replacing soon as the case doesn't fully screw together quite so snugly after a couple of dodgy repairs - so far I replaced the charging port with a £2 Chinese knock off from ebay after the 'genius' in the apple store told me a pack of lies about it being integrated into the main board and that I'd need to replace the phone... then the on/off switch stopped working... current bodge job repair has again involved taking apart the phone and inserting some folded paper to bridge the gap where the switch was failing to depress properly
thing is I don't much like the size of these new phones, I like the size of the iphone 4
I'm tempted to try an android phone next, maybe see what the google pixel phone looks like (AFAIK it is going to be made by HTC) - though am interested in any other recommendations for iphone 4 size phones
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I've still got an iphone 4... though it does need replacing soon as the case doesn't fully screw together quite so snugly after a couple of dodgy repairs - so far I replaced the charging port with a £2 Chinese knock off from ebay after the 'genius' in the apple store told me a pack of lies about it being integrated into the main board and that I'd need to replace the phone... then the on/off switch stopped working... current bodge job repair has again involved taking apart the phone and inserting some folded paper to bridge the gap where the switch was failing to depress properly
thing is I don't much like the size of these new phones, I like the size of the iphone 4
I'm tempted to try an android phone next, maybe see what the google pixel phone looks like (AFAIK it is going to be made by HTC) - though am interested in any other recommendations for iphone 4 size phones
Iphone 5s?
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I've still got an iphone 4... though it does need replacing soon as the case doesn't fully screw together quite so snugly after a couple of dodgy repairs - so far I replaced the charging port with a £2 Chinese knock off from ebay after the 'genius' in the apple store told me a pack of lies about it being integrated into the main board and that I'd need to replace the phone... then the on/off switch stopped working... current bodge job repair has again involved taking apart the phone and inserting some folded paper to bridge the gap where the switch was failing to depress properly
thing is I don't much like the size of these new phones, I like the size of the iphone 4
I'm tempted to try an android phone next, maybe see what the google pixel phone looks like (AFAIK it is going to be made by HTC) - though am interested in any other recommendations for iphone 4 size phones
Iphone 5s?
If you're already tied into the Apple ecosystem (paid apps etc) then it doesn't make much sense to swap.
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If you're already tied into the Apple ecosystem (paid apps etc) then it doesn't make much sense to swap.
that can be said about any OS phone though
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If you're already tied into the Apple ecosystem (paid apps etc) then it doesn't make much sense to swap.
that can be said about any OS phone though
Exactly.
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Iphone 5s?
I'd probably go for the SE if sticking with iphone
If you're already tied into the Apple ecosystem (paid apps etc) then it doesn't make much sense to swap.
not many paid apps tbh... I've got vice city and that is about it in terms of paid for games. Not sure if whatsapp messages are stored in the cloud (I get the impression they might be), but yeah another iphone might be easier in terms of migration of SMS messages, contacts etc.. fairly easily via itunes
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Iphone 5s?
I'd probably go for the SE if sticking with iphone
If you're already tied into the Apple ecosystem (paid apps etc) then it doesn't make much sense to swap.
not many paid apps tbh... I've got vice city and that is about it in terms of paid for games. Not sure if whatsapp messages are stored in the cloud (I get the impression they might be), but yeah another iphone might be easier in terms of migration of SMS messages, contacts etc.. fairly easily via itunes
whatsapp is cloud based. Ive flogged my 6plus (waiting for 7) & gone back to my m8 & everything restored.
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Has anyone here moved from iPhone to android? I have an iPhone and an android tablet, would like to know if anyone has moved to a high end android device, I need a device that isn't buggy and does what it should when it should, don't want to root it or fanny around with it, I just want a phone that works and allows me to browse the Internet, I've stuck to iPhone previously as it just works, but wondering if the bugs have been ironed out of Android now..
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Essentially I'm moving to iPhone as I've had my fun messing around with Android, customising things etc, but now I find myself busier with more important things to do than root a phone and set it up just right (only for the phone to randomly reset itself, losing the many customisations) etc. I'll be using it for more than just browsing the internet, but expect that for the most part, the apps, albeit being more expensive/not free, will run better and more stable on iOS. Or that's the hope at any rate.
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Depends on the Android phone essentially.
If you think you can pick up a £100 POS and think it will perform as well as an iPhone, you're mistaken.
Android phones aren't cheap alternatives. Get one with the right spec and minimal vendor f**kwittery (Sense, Touchwiz etc) and you're golden.
Look at the LG V20, Motorola X, Huawei P9 etc. Anything Nexus too and you'll get a great experience from the phone.
I had an iPhone 5 for work and hated it. Used to forward the calls to my Nexus 6. Wife had a Moto G and it was terrible. Not enough ram and poor amounts of storage space meant it always ran out. Moving apps to the SD card doesn't work as well as it could due to the differences in speed between internal and expansion storage.
https://www.google.com/nexus/5x/
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I'll be using it for more than just browsing the internet, but expect that for the most part, the apps, albeit being more expensive/not free, will run better and more stable on iOS. Or that's the hope at any rate.
Yep, you might expect it but don't depend on it. Quite often the free apps are just as good and sometimes better than the pay for ones. There have also been a few pay for apps that have come loaded with spyware and viruses - even with apple stuff.
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Another shout out for the OnePlus 3. Slimline, no bloat Marshmallow Android 6. Doesn't need to be rooted, not a single bug or problem with it since buying it. Super powerful(Faster than iPhone 6 and Samsung Galaxy S7), 6GB RAM, 64GB storage. Lasts well over a day on a charge for me. Will charge 60% in half an hour. Looks great too.
£330~
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I'm tempted by the sony z5 compact, it seems to come close on my priority areas of camera, battery life and size. Oh and it's waterproof too it seems.
Anyone had experience with these?
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I've been looking at that one too...
I don't really care about phone power/apps (naff all installed)
but I hate big phones... I've been using origonal gen1 Motorola Moto G phones for years... must have broken about 10 of them and keep buying replacments... but gen1 is hard to find now... gen 2, 3 and 4 are all faster, more ram etc. but they're bigger too!
(~4.5inch screen size max for me!)
edit:
Xperia X Compact is practically the same phone, but 3gig ram instead of 2?
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X compact has a slightly slower CPU I think (I read the Z is prone to overheating) either way both contenders.
Ah, the X compact doesn't look to be waterproof or able to record in 4k video. It's billed as "upper midrange" it seems :-X
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October 4th Google will be announcing their new flagship phone, so probably worth holding off a little longer
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Am I the only one to be suspicious of Google? Then again I'm suspicious of Amazon, Microsoft, Apple.... :tinhat:
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Am I the only one to be suspicious of Google? Then again I'm suspicious of Amazon, Microsoft, Apple.... :tinhat:
I have GMail, I use Chrome, I have an android tablet and potentially want Google Home, if they want to farm all my info and give me some good services for free then I'm happy to give it to them, I'm also on Facebook which is probably just as bad, as long as I don't end up out of pocket or in jail I'll whore my online presence out, most of it is just watching cat videos anyway!
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Am I the only one to be suspicious of Google? Then again I'm suspicious of Amazon, Microsoft, Apple.... :tinhat:
I have GMail, I use Chrome, I have an android tablet and potentially want Google Home, if they want to farm all my info and give me some good services for free then I'm happy to give it to them, I'm also on Facebook which is probably just as bad, as long as I don't end up out of pocket or in jail I'll whore my online presence out, most of it is just watching cat videos anyway!
That's the whole point, they aren't 'free', google wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't possible for them to make a profit out of your information.
And not just yours, big data is worth big money.