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on: January 20, 2020, 01:12:17 AM
Starts in a few days.
Is this going to be good or?


Everyone has been itching for new Star Trek set after the others and not something like Discovery

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Reply #1 on: January 20, 2020, 08:55:37 AM
My money is on yes. Nothing like the other series', I think this is going to be very much story and morality driven; true to Picard's character and less about in your face action. As long as they stay true to the characters they are bringing back from TNG/Voyager it should be a success. I'm very hopeful at least as Patrick Stewart wouldn't have signed up for revisting Picard again otherwise.

I never really got into Disco, too much like the JJ Abrams films.

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Reply #2 on: January 20, 2020, 12:05:20 PM
A couple of relevant events has happened recently, the agreement Bad Robot had with paramount for the Kelvin timeline films has run out, and Paramount has been rolled back into the CBS group meaning they now have full access to the original time line.

Might not seem like that much but it means they can cut Bad Robot out completely. It would actually be against their best interests to continue with them now anyway.

Seems there is a split opinion on Picard, one side thinks optimistically that it could be good, especially with the links back to the next generation. I don't see Picard doing much in the way of acrobatics.

On the other there are claims by some that it's all going to be about Trump and BR***T. Unlikely but a huge amount of Star Trek has been about present events and the political situation when it was written.

Providing you don't mind a bit of hidden modern politics it should be fine.

Much of the problem of the recent TV series and films is they were trying to create another Khan ultimate adversary, which didn't work well and inevitably they killed them off at the end.

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Reply #3 on: January 20, 2020, 13:35:38 PM
The one thing truly mirroring our current politics would be xenophobia, which has been consistent throughout TNG/Star Trek in general as the one thing that is never really overcome. I like the fact that it seems it will be grounded in realistic concepts and that the future isn't just god-like good/bad entities thrashing it out, otherwise it might as well just be Star Wars or a DC/Marvel affair. For most of TNG it was real people solving diplomatic, moral and existential problems, if they are re-capturing even just one of those for the Picard story arc then it's a win I think.

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Reply #4 on: January 20, 2020, 23:00:19 PM
Discovery is CBS isn't it? And that takes a lot of style from the Bad Robot but is under CBS so does show that sort of blend.. Hand over? kind of style as the Klingon's with no hair like in the latest movies transitioning more into the next gen style.

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Reply #5 on: January 28, 2020, 04:56:04 AM
Really enjoyed it. Thought it was great!
Looking for to the rest of it.

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Reply #6 on: February 08, 2020, 17:39:24 PM
I have watched episode 3 on Amazon. It's fast paced (if anything the first episode was too fast), good scripting, they really hit the ground running in this, and if you know Star Trek has huge numbers of "easter egg" references back to previous films, books and TV series.

It does have a film based photographic feel, different from TNG but if you don't mind that it's otherwise good.

Still some obvious script issues, but every ST has had those right back to ToS.

There is an issue with knowing things before they happen, although in some cases they are explained by events and are not precognition.

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Reply #7 on: February 10, 2020, 00:02:28 AM
Everyone always forgets season 1 of shows. Everyone is finding their feet, settling into roles making last minute changes and finding what works.


I like a number of things so far outside the main story:


- People have moaned about the smoking but I think it is key to the whole utopia falling apart aspect. After the Dominan war and the Borg attack on the federation they wery in a bad state. One of the movies had the enterprise recruiting very early races to build back the numbers. From that I think maintaining the Utopia status is a very hard thing to do. Klingon's are in a mess, Romulus is gone and before that they had their Reman Romulan war. Then the other things that happened between the last movie and now they mention as well - Utopia is a very hard thing to keep alive after that.


- Holagram interfaces: In a number of shows like Deep space nine set in the future they fly old ships or always hint to the holographic interfaces of the future and I am glad they evolved the ship designs and interfaces. Some die hard fans moaning about that too but its a number of years later now. Things evolve.


- No clingongs yet!




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Reply #8 on: February 10, 2020, 02:12:35 AM
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Reply #9 on: February 10, 2020, 21:04:16 PM
I find it quite amusing that you are considering it fast-paced, Serious, most online complaints seem to be that its too slow setting up the plot (binge watch generation, tbh, buck 'em).

I'm really enjoying it. Interesting theories circulating about as well, for anyone remotely into sci-fi this has to be one of the most talked about shows in ages.

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Reply #10 on: February 12, 2020, 01:29:18 AM
Not just me, quite a few of the youtube reviews I have seen mention this, especially in the first episode.

Then I do have fibromyalgia.

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Reply #11 on: February 12, 2020, 02:33:27 AM
I find it quite amusing that you are considering it fast-paced, Serious, most online complaints seem to be that its too slow setting up the plot (binge watch generation, tbh, buck 'em).

I'm really enjoying it. Interesting theories circulating about as well, for anyone remotely into sci-fi this has to be one of the most talked about shows in ages.


I think I defiantly like the fact that Star Fleet is in a state where it looks Rosey on the outside but clearly is not.
I wonder when we will see klingon's around as well.


And I just wonder the state of the alpha quadrant as a whole now they are off Earth and we get to find out. They mention some form of big incident that Picard saved the federation from in between Romulus blowing up and the last movie so he saves everyone again there. With that, the Dominan war and Borg attach (again) it must be in a bit of a state.

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Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 09:55:01 AM
I'm not sure we will see Klingons at all in this series, it seems heavily set around Romulan interaction (not bad thing, I always felt they were underutilised).

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Reply #13 on: February 15, 2020, 00:42:18 AM
Episode 4, and slowing down a good bit. So much this one seemed a bit short?

The ship seems to be pointing towards the space equivalent of an executive jet. The available holograms seem to confirm this. Someone suggested smuggling but really it seems a bit small for that. Irrelevant to the plot so far but it's a nice touch.

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Reply #14 on: February 17, 2020, 01:59:30 AM
Episode 4, and slowing down a good bit. So much this one seemed a bit short?

The ship seems to be pointing towards the space equivalent of an executive jet. The available holograms seem to confirm this. Someone suggested smuggling but really it seems a bit small for that. Irrelevant to the plot so far but it's a nice touch.



If you have your own ship and you got it by some means or another - Most sci fi shows where you have your rouge or Han Solo they won the ship, stole it etc and they make it their own - Never what it was originally intended for.

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