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Reply #15 on: February 17, 2020, 02:49:58 AM

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[/size]I think it felt short as well because it was engaging and at the end I was proper "OOOoooh" annoyed it ended.
I still like the fact that:


- Transporters are even more instant so the tech has progressed
- They made holographic interfaces the norm and in a manner that works
- It feels star trek but they have been bold in progressing the universe and tech but not gone crazy. Tough balance, it would have been easy to keep things close to how it was despite all the years passing by.


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Been so interesting to just finally get to see where the universe is finally.

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Reply #16 on: February 17, 2020, 19:45:45 PM
Episode 4, and slowing down a good bit. So much this one seemed a bit short?

The ship seems to be pointing towards the space equivalent of an executive jet. The available holograms seem to confirm this. Someone suggested smuggling but really it seems a bit small for that. Irrelevant to the plot so far but it's a nice touch.



If you have your own ship and you got it by some means or another - Most sci fi shows where you have your rouge or Han Solo they won the ship, stole it etc and they make it their own - Never what it was originally intended for.

True, but you can often infer what they were intended for. Millennium Falcon has a lot of storage for such a small ship. Armed merchantman might be a more accurate description but it's used for carrying small high value cargo, nominally smuggling.

Most small ships in the Star Trek universe will not have a need for lots of holograms. unless you need to keep passengers or owners happy while traveling through billions of kilometers of space. Then it has a hologram specifically for this purpose that came with the ship from new.

In ToS the "ultimate computer" attacks a computer controlled cargo ship, with no crew. By this point most, if not all, such ships would be the same, or have a limited engineering crew.

Nice touch with the hologram not using it's hands on the controls, no point if it can interface directly with the systems much faster. Could have done the same for Data in Generations.

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Reply #17 on: February 18, 2020, 21:18:18 PM
With regards to the smoking, I think it's a good thing. Also I think the state of medical technology in the 24th century means that any long term health risks associated with smoking can be cured, so there'd be no reason why you wouldn't smoke, apart from perhaps the social pressure from people telling you not to smoke.

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Reply #18 on: February 18, 2020, 23:22:54 PM
With regards to the smoking, I think it's a good thing. Also I think the state of medical technology in the 24th century means that any long term health risks associated with smoking can be cured, so there'd be no reason why you wouldn't smoke, apart from perhaps the social pressure from people telling you not to smoke.
For me it's them showing that the utopia concept for the federation is not true. I know the creator was very much a no in that regard but with every utopia what they show is not always the true nature of the thing and the federation has been threw it, the Romulans are clearly f***ed so big players in the galaxy are in a bit of a mess.

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Reply #19 on: February 20, 2020, 13:33:25 PM
With regards to the smoking, I think it's a good thing. Also I think the state of medical technology in the 24th century means that any long term health risks associated with smoking can be cured, so there'd be no reason why you wouldn't smoke, apart from perhaps the social pressure from people telling you not to smoke.
For me it's them showing that the utopia concept for the federation is not true. I know the creator was very much a no in that regard but with every utopia what they show is not always the true nature of the thing and the federation has been threw it, the Romulans are clearly f***ed so big players in the galaxy are in a bit of a mess.

The problem with utopias is that you have to take into account human greed, selfishness and stupidity. As so deftly portrayed by the present UK government and those that believed them.

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Reply #20 on: February 25, 2020, 15:28:12 PM
I watch very little TV/Movies, when I do usually it's very old by the time I get round to it (e.g I watched Blade Runner 1/2 late last year)

I'm glad I "queue jumped" This and caught up with 4 episodes today, really enjoyable so far, my only gripe is the occasional swearing as it adds nothing and just seems unnecessary, and believe me I swear a lot  :lol:
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Reply #21 on: February 27, 2020, 00:44:01 AM
I watch very little TV/Movies, when I do usually it's very old by the time I get round to it (e.g I watched Blade Runner 1/2 late last year)

I'm glad I "queue jumped" This and caught up with 4 episodes today, really enjoyable so far, my only gripe is the occasional swearing as it adds nothing and just seems unnecessary, and believe me I swear a lot  :lol:
I think I have completely glossed over that, never even noticed. I guess it's giving this whole sense of the real galaxy has gone to pot. You had stuff happen all the time in all previous star trek's but it is within the utopia of the federation's eye. And the fact that with everything that has gone on the galaxy really has gone to pot, like with the smoking and the drug elements too.

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Reply #22 on: February 27, 2020, 08:13:22 AM
I've only just caught up on the last two episodes and still thoroughly enjoying it.

The swearing has seem mostly forced and I don't think it has been necessary or fitting except for maybe two occasions. Some characters you can understand it coming from, others not so much; especially the officers.

I am a bit sad that we seem to headed for cameos rather than some of the hyped-up returning characters joining the crew for a longer period. I hope its not a per episode trend.
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Reply #23 on: February 27, 2020, 15:26:35 PM
A lot of people swear, although the military commanders should not swear as much I know a lot of military people do. Then you have people who just do not care less. Princess Anne was observed to swear often and it was claimed worse than a trooper.

Admittedly it's not normal in Star Trek but usually that is because of the target audience including a lot of children. As with the beheading things are different, it is something that would never have happened in previous series. With Picard the kid gloves are off.

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Reply #24 on: February 27, 2020, 18:44:46 PM
Yes, a lot of people swear as that's the age we live in, where it is normalised. The audience thing is a misdirection, unless you were actively looking to write swearing into the script it would never be an issue. Eastenders copes just fine without people getting called facking caaants. But that's a small part of it, the other part of it is that these are supposed to be some of the finest people/minds in the Federation, etc and therefore you would expect higher standards and a bit more thought and eloquence. There's other American vernacular going on in the script as well which I found a bit jarring and it's all blatantly to appear contemporary. It just feels a little lazy for some of the characters, though thankfully it seems they are moving away from it since the first couple of episodes and back to more thoughtful dialogues again.
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Reply #25 on: February 28, 2020, 01:09:55 AM
Can I just say the de-aging CG stuff again continues to show how good it is!
X-men a few years ago vs 14 years ago Picard.... Night and day - Very good.




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Reply #26 on: February 28, 2020, 08:05:15 AM
I actually didn't even notice, but to be honest I assumed it was the other way around and that they've been ageing him to look 90-whatever he's supposed to be!

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Reply #27 on: March 01, 2020, 23:34:00 PM
He has aged a lot recently.


Enjoyed this weeks episode again with the Borg stuff. I never liked how you were taken over by the BORG and then your 100% healed and all good when you get back like with Picard. Seven of nine was a bit more but then they messed that up when a few of the crew were assimilated yet all good after their mission was over. Now it actually shows the effort and trauma of becoming you again and its not all easy and happy times.

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Reply #28 on: March 04, 2020, 12:11:40 PM
I tend to agree with the Borg assimilation but there are caveats. Initially there would ne issues but Star Trek has had the dermal regenerator for some time now and their cosmetic surgery would be far in advance of ours. There would be fairly easy repair options including replacement eyes.

There is also the probability of Borg technology being repurposed, the nanites could conceivably lead to unlimited life spans.

Then there are some dodgy bits like the ineffective poison gas, it's almost like death was not intended.

I wonder if little Romulan spy and his sister are going to get theirs before the end of the series?

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Reply #29 on: March 04, 2020, 23:55:48 PM
I tend to agree with the Borg assimilation but there are caveats. Initially there would ne issues but Star Trek has had the dermal regenerator for some time now and their cosmetic surgery would be far in advance of ours. There would be fairly easy repair options including replacement eyes.

There is also the probability of Borg technology being repurposed, the nanites could conceivably lead to unlimited life spans.

Then there are some dodgy bits like the ineffective poison gas, it's almost like death was not intended.

I wonder if little Romulan spy and his sister are going to get theirs before the end of the series?
Sometimes you have to gloss over the details a bit...


-Cortical nodes in the head which IS NOT SMALL is supposed to be in all Borg and thats a big chunk of the brain changed so Janeway and co for example would have that.
- Bog literally dump limbs to put on tech so you cant dermo an arm etc and picard had a different arm. Of course show wise it was just inside but borg chop that off, how did he get a new hand?
- Some parts can go others stay so why some people have borg bits on them but others do not.


Just very inconstant there and the new show has to gloss over that but I do like the new more realistic reality with that and "deborging" people being difficult and FAR from painless.

Again I love the show for bringing the universe back in a form of reality and highlighting the pain and negativity a lot more. It is why I liked Deep Space Nine and the Dominion war as it was leading more that way.

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