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Re: ps4
Reply #15 on: February 22, 2013, 16:18:26 PM
Xbox 360 and PS3 are of the same generation. Xbox was out marginally before the PS3.

xbox 360 was out a whole year before ps3. In euro zone the PS3 was released 16 months after the xbox360 euro release date.




fwiw, ive heard via an MS employee that the hardware between the ps4 & xbox 720 are pretty much identical, the ps4 is setup to be backwards compatible, where as the the 720 wont be & this allows them to maximise the hardware for 720 - while the PS4 is being held back because of backwards capability. Also, the 720 will have something new & will do away with the 'used game market'.
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Re: ps4
Reply #16 on: February 22, 2013, 17:24:56 PM
Given how sh*t everything is that MS is churning out at the moment I can't see them doing anthing revolutionary with the 720 (the irony is in the name!)

Backawards compatability and used game support is a big deal.

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Reply #17 on: February 22, 2013, 17:49:11 PM
Xbox 360 and PS3 are of the same generation. Xbox was out marginally before the PS3.

xbox 360 was out a whole year before ps3. In euro zone the PS3 was released 16 months after the xbox360 euro release date.




fwiw, ive heard via an MS employee that the hardware between the ps4 & xbox 720 are pretty much identical, the ps4 is setup to be backwards compatible, where as the the 720 wont be & this allows them to maximise the hardware for 720 - while the PS4 is being held back because of backwards capability. Also, the 720 will have something new & will do away with the 'used game market'.

The PS4 is not properly backwards compatible. You will not be able to pop in a PS3 game and play it on the PS4. What is being done is that you will be able to play PS1, 2 and 3 games via Gaikai streaming on the PS4. What they haven't said is if you will have to re-buy the games you already own, but I'm betting they will expect you to as they're not going to just let everyone play the older games for free.

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Reply #18 on: February 23, 2013, 09:50:54 AM
Not sure I like the sound of the used game market going. Mind you pretty much all my purchases over the last 18 months have been games on demand titles which were released 2+ years ago and are now ~£10-18 each. A reasonable price to pay for something that in theory should be redownloaded/yours for life. Though it does irk me that I know some of those £18 titles can be had for <£5 at blockbuster.

I doubt I'll rush out and buy either console. There is a chance that when we move out and settle in somewhere we might look in to the two consoles then, and which ever one offers the most rounded media options we might get. We pretty much use the 360 in our room for iplayer, 4od, and me with some games, oh and playing DVD's. I imagine the 720 will have bluray support...

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Reply #19 on: February 26, 2013, 00:25:57 AM
I haven't found a single modern console based game controller that was comfortable for me, so far they are all horrible.

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Reply #20 on: February 26, 2013, 09:09:21 AM
Backwards compatibility has never been a big deal.  None of the Sega's were, neither were Nintendo's up until the Wii.

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Reply #21 on: February 26, 2013, 10:18:43 AM
Backwards compatibility has never been a big deal.  None of the Sega's were, neither were Nintendo's up until the Wii.

Those consoles didn't last 1 year before being superceded and there wasn't a PC games market. Times/things have changed massively.

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Reply #22 on: February 26, 2013, 10:27:09 AM
Backwards compatibility has never been a big deal.  None of the Sega's were, neither were Nintendo's up until the Wii.
Backwards compatibility has never been a big deal.  None of the Sega's were, neither were Nintendo's up until the Wii.

agreed. I guess most people either keep their old console & games, or trade them all in for a new console.

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Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 10:30:02 AM
Backwards compatibility has never been a big deal.  None of the Sega's were, neither were Nintendo's up until the Wii.

Those consoles didn't last 1 year before being superceded and there wasn't a PC games market. Times/things have changed massively.

Sega Master System - 1987
Sega Mega Drive - 1990 - Mega CD - 1991 - 32X - 1994
Sega Saturn - 1995
Sega Dreamcast - 1999

More than a year between those.

NES - 1986
SNES - 1992
N64 - 1997
Gamecube - 2002
Wii - 2006
Wii U - 2012

Same there.

Backwards compatibility still isn't a big deal.  Just because you buy a new console, doesn't instantly render your old one useless.
PC Market hasn't changed.  It's still based on the same architecture.  Console architecture changes pretty much every generation.
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Reply #24 on: February 26, 2013, 12:16:56 PM
I stand corrected then, I could have sworn they were all released much further apart. I guess thats down to my age related hazy memory :lol:

Backwards compatability isn't a deal breaker but the used games market certainly is big enough to require attention still, locking down games is cutting your nose off to spite your face. It's not going to stop piracy.

The only game I've paid full whack for on my PS3 is Gran Tourismo, the rest were all £5-15 2nd hand. I don't know anyone who would pay full whack for the games or not at least wait for the sales - unless it was a one-off must have release - especially when they are generally cheaper on PC if available. Maybe I'm out of touch with the yoof of today and parents with more money than sense though.

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Reply #25 on: February 26, 2013, 15:37:15 PM
It'd be interesting and possibly cool if they did some kind of digital marketplace.

For instance, xbox games on demand. You buy a game, and then you can redownload it whenever etc. It'd be cool if you could trade back the game and the rights to play it, so say you buy a game for £20, you can give up your rights and get £10 back or something. Conceivably it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for the system to monitor game playing, and the amount you get credited could be based upon the amount of playtime the game had before.

So if you buy a game for £20, finish the campaign in 3 hours, and then trade it back, you get £15. But if you play the game through, then spend a few weeks getting all the collectables and finishing on the hardest difficulty, before playing multiplayer for a month or two, you could get £5 back.

It'd be an interesting concept, one which would be less crap than them just preventing any form of used game market from happening.

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Reply #26 on: February 26, 2013, 16:43:24 PM
It's an interesting concept but I see a problem with it if you buy a game then realise its not for you or simply rubbish, so then find you're forced to play it through just to get your money back :lol:

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Reply #27 on: February 27, 2013, 22:39:40 PM
well it could be time based,  so it didn't matter what you did in the game.  kind of like a rental.

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Re: ps4
Reply #28 on: February 28, 2013, 00:18:55 AM
PS4 Announcement - Abridged Version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

Re: ps4
Reply #29 on: February 28, 2013, 05:15:24 AM
PS4 Announcement - Abridged Version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rJDn0jRnUQ

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