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Title: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on June 24, 2014, 22:48:32 PM
Dell PowerEdge 2950 II 2X 2.66GHZ QUAD CORE X5355 CPU's 8GB RAM 4X 73GB HDD's
£159

Good server / Spec for the price as a rack system to play with windows server / RAID etc?

Will not be supporting a network full of users, any other suggestions welcome, but looks to be fairly good spec for the price?
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: Binary Shadow on June 25, 2014, 08:09:16 AM
Don't have any suggestions but I have a half height rack with 3x HP DL380's and some switches etc in, with only 1/3 running it still costs £50 a month if left on 24/7!!!
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on June 25, 2014, 10:47:44 AM
i spent a lot of time looking at these boys recently
http://www.bargainhardware.co.uk/

and then ended up buying off ebay.

Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on June 25, 2014, 23:07:35 PM
Thanks both!

Good to know about the electric, looking at the npower website, that's about right to run the average PC 24/7. Who would have thought it was so much!

I don't think I'll be running it 24/7 anyway, it'll more be a test box anyway, my microserver does my 24/7 work
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on June 27, 2014, 10:31:26 AM
bit more info.

I ended up with a Dell R210 as a basis for my test lab. 200 quid off ebay and another hundred to get it to 16GB and put an idrac express in to enable remote management.
i needed that one as the cupboard its going in isn't huge. i also bought a samson 8u rack. its based on music systems, but with a cut down pair of dell rails, it houses my test lab fine.

i'll add a pic to it soon. got to rack the switch first.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on June 27, 2014, 11:34:22 AM
I've gone for the below at £159, seems to be reasonably good spec for the price, also comes with a COA to may have a legitimate server OS to play with also, although not too bothered either way as can download Eval versions:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390867056128 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390867056128)

DELL POWEREDGE 2950 II 2U SERVER

*2 x  2.66GHZ QUAD CORE XEON X5355 CPU's

* 64BIT CPU's

* 8 GB RAM FBDIMM'S

* 4 X 73GB 15k 3.5" SAS HDD's FITTED

* WINDOWS 2003 R2 SVR ENT EDITION COA ON CASE (NOT INSTALLED OR SOFTWARE PROVIDED)

* SPACE FOR ANOTHER 2 HDD'S

* NO EXTRA CADDIES OR BLANKS PROVIDED

* PERC 5/i RAID CONTROLLER

* DELL REMOTE ACCESS CONTROLLER (DRAC)

* ONBOARD GRAPHICS

*  2 x 10/100/1000 GIGABIT PORTS

* 1 x SERIAL PORT

* 4 x USB PORTS

* 2x PSU's

* DVDROM

*  BLUE FRONT BEZEL
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on June 30, 2014, 08:37:57 AM
theres a lot of server for your money there. if you budget another 80 in to double the ram, you'll be able to run a few vms on there and learn all sorts of stuff.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on June 30, 2014, 23:51:22 PM
Turned up today..

RAM wise looks to be 8 x 1GB sticks in there, which should be fine for a couple of VMs to play with, but if I upgrade will mean swapping out some sticks.

just powered up today to make sure it was booting fine, sounds like an aircraft on boot and is about as long as a coffee table, unfortunately about 4 inches longer than it's current home which is a bit of a PITA.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on July 01, 2014, 10:08:48 AM
gimme a pic of the sticker on the DIMMS, I might have some on ebay that you can have cheap...
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on July 01, 2014, 23:08:28 PM
Cheers for the offer, but don't think I'll both upgrading for the moment, like I said it's not going in to full operation, just something to play with really.

And you would probably make better money on eBay as I'd probably order the below and wait for it to arrive from the states for £36 to double and could sell my old RAM and make some of that back.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8GB-4X2GB-KIT-DELL-FBDIMM-PowerEdge-2950-1950-2950-1900-1955-R900-RAM-MEMORY-/360794617198?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item540108f56e (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8GB-4X2GB-KIT-DELL-FBDIMM-PowerEdge-2950-1950-2950-1900-1955-R900-RAM-MEMORY-/360794617198?pt=US_Memory_RAM_&hash=item540108f56e)

You'd make more than that putting it up on ebay and selling to someone in the UK I expect?
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on July 02, 2014, 08:57:56 AM
yeah, thats dirt cheap.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: Pete on July 09, 2014, 20:45:31 PM
Bargaintastic. If you're using Hyper-V make sure you enable data deduplication on your vhd partition. I've got around 15 2012 r2 vms on a 120gb partition and still got 70 or 80 GB free.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on July 10, 2014, 22:02:22 PM
Installed hyper V can ping the server by IP but via name isn't working and can't connect via mstsc or manage, haven't had time to properly work out WTF is going on yet but this bit should be simple :-)
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on July 11, 2014, 08:43:34 AM
you got a dns server on your home network?
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on July 11, 2014, 21:01:15 PM
No just default virgin DNS, I can see an instance of hyper V on virtual box fine, just on the server having issues, still not had a chance to look at it though
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on July 14, 2014, 22:34:40 PM
Had a little time to have a play, adding a network share on the server kicked netbios in to play and can now be found on the network! However RDP access still isn't working and I'm getting an error about privileges when trying to connect using software to manage the VMs which appears to need some wanky workaround to get access when not on a domain. I'm tempted just to use another VM host as it's taking longer to set this up than setting up and installing several hosts on Xen
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on July 15, 2014, 09:02:07 AM
you wont ping a server by name unless there is some way of resolving it, hence asking about dns. alternative is hosts files. all os's do this roughly the same way, so google hosts files mac/windows/suse etc.

I've just put a dns server on my qnap for roughly a similar reason, although BTs awful response to DNS requests also had sommat to do with it.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on July 15, 2014, 20:08:38 PM
It's hyper V so is basically running windows, so net bios should be fine for resolution, I just assume one of the services hadn't started to make it work until I added a share.. Fixed now anyway.. If I get time at the weekend I'll see if I can get the rest working or just be lazy and install Xen which is far less work!


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Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: bytejunkie on July 16, 2014, 09:32:21 AM
depends on how you've built it though. out of the box dns is its first resort, it'll drop back to netbios if it can't use dns.
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: XEntity on July 16, 2014, 21:16:25 PM
Previously I had it running exactly the same setup on another machine and all worked as expected, , I think something just went screwy somewhere :-)
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: Binary Shadow on July 22, 2014, 08:34:54 AM
turned off the windows firewalls?
Title: Re: Rack server - just to play with?
Post by: Pete on August 17, 2014, 16:17:57 PM
Just put up a DNS server, doesn't take long and will sort out all your problems.

We're in the process of ditching as many XEN hosts as we can and moving them to Hyper-V. We've had the bug on a few boxes with snapshots eating up loads of space on our storage and having a painful time getting the lost space back.