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rant about blu-ray
on: March 17, 2006, 18:18:48 PM
rant: why will these upcoming new players cost $1000 when you can get a cheap DVD player for $50? yarg. Highway robbery.

Im for HD-dvd as blu-ray sounds too Superman villianesque.

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Reply #1 on: March 17, 2006, 18:21:18 PM
If DVDs had not been hacked the movie studios would have been quite happy for DVDs to stay.  They had to move to a new encryption system to prevent piracy hence the drive for the "next big thing".  

New players may cost thousands but the price will come down eventually.  The PS3 may be the first "affordable" Blueray device...  And its rumoured to be $450-499...

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Reply #2 on: March 17, 2006, 18:21:39 PM
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rant: why will these upcoming new players cost $1000 when you can get a cheap DVD player for $50? yarg. Highway robbery.

Im for HD-dvd as blu-ray sounds too Superman villianesque.


I take it these HD-DVD players will be able to play normal DVDs as I dont want to be forking out for replacements for my DVD collection if and when HD-DVD starts taking over the DVD market?
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Reply #3 on: March 17, 2006, 18:23:36 PM
yeah, I expect players to reach $200 by Xmas. Regular DVD looks pretty sweet on the LCD as is.

I hope one of the formats dies a nasty death. Dont really care which.

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Reply #4 on: March 17, 2006, 18:26:10 PM
Have a look at the launch list for Bluray and tell me which of those will benefit greatly from being shown in HDTV... None iirc.

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Reply #5 on: March 17, 2006, 18:31:33 PM
On the subject of secure content, one of the big companies have announced they wont be pluging the analogue hole on their Blue ray players. So youll get all the full resolution video pumped out over an unsecure channel :)


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Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 18:33:27 PM
I expect the prices to drop rapidly in order to get demand going and then theres the PS3 release which has been put back, seems they are still ironing out problems.

I still remember the Betamax vs VHS battle so I wont be an early buyer, I will wait and see which wins.

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Reply #7 on: March 17, 2006, 18:44:32 PM
One of the "big companies" that kirika refers to is Sony.  This will initially increase penetration into the market  allowing early adopters to use a Blueray player with their "old" HDTV.  However, when the bit is set (which it will be) they will have to upgrade their tv...

And, no matter what Sony say regarding the PS3... it has not been delayed due to Blueray.  Its been delayed because its simply not ready yet.  No where near by all accounts.

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Reply #8 on: March 18, 2006, 10:29:24 AM
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On the subject of secure content, one of the big companies have announced they wont be pluging the analogue hole on their Blue ray players. So youll get all the full resolution video pumped out over an unsecure channel :)



Is that similar to the "hack" one can do in order to record box office films on their TV?

Output it through an RF converter, sure youll lose a little quality (on a regular tv you probably wont notice) and plug it into the Aerial input.

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Reply #9 on: March 18, 2006, 11:32:58 AM
Basically, Bluray should only output its HD content over the digital interface, eg HDMI.  There are lots of HDTVs which dont have a HDMI input but only have Component, VGA etc.  If you connect up using anything but the HDMI connection you should only get SDTV resolution video and not the HDTV picture that you paid for.

What Sony have said is that initially they will not enforce that, so if you are connecting over component you will be able to get the HD content.  In the future this will be enforced.

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Reply #10 on: March 18, 2006, 16:27:35 PM
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I hope one of the formats dies a nasty death. Dont really care which.


Well this has been reffered to as the whole Betamax vs VHS war all over again.  I dont see any advantage with HD-DVD discs except possibly the cost.

And as Deaths Heads has said, HD signal will not be locked out from analogue inputs. :)

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/03/14/sony_blu_ray_analogue_image_constraint/

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Reply #11 on: March 18, 2006, 18:16:48 PM
The advantages lie with the manufacturers.  The companies that are behind the standard which becomes prevalent stand to make a *lot* of money.

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Reply #12 on: March 18, 2006, 18:52:51 PM
not necessarily

betamax vs VHS was some years back things have changed now

back in the time of betamax vs VHS most peeps didnt have computers or at most had a C64 or speccy

now peeps have several computers several consoles etc...

if there are big enough manufacturers promoting both sides then we may well see movies being released in both formats anyway rather than one single format & al lot of people will probably have both types of player in one form or another

there doesnt *have* to be a single dominant standard & it will help competition and pricing if there isnt tbh...  

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Reply #13 on: March 18, 2006, 18:57:17 PM
Itll be the new "DVD -R+R" crap.

Sooner or later a company will find a way to merge the two technologies together and make a shedload of money. Then well end up buying dual format players.

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Reply #14 on: March 18, 2006, 19:40:54 PM
The thing with standards is that you have to pay royalties to the people that own the intellectual property behind it.  The companies behind either standard stand to make alot of money if their format becomes VHS to the others Betamax.

You say big enough manufacturers promoting both sides, you still have to buy A side.  The companies promoting both dont want to get their fingers burnt by choosing the wrong side.  If they did they stand to lose alot of money.

And thats what its all about.  Money.  Not making films better, making them look better, making them sound better.  Its all about making more money.

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