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Guitar learning schenanigans.
on: May 01, 2006, 01:40:18 AM
Well.. I was taught to play classical guitar for 6 years, unfortunately I had a crap teacher who kept me on the same pieces of music for 2 years a time, in 6 years I did 3 gradings and got to Grade 2 (I did the initial grading.. the pointless grading), when friends I knew were with other teachers and were grade 4 and 5 standard.

Now... years later I can still play some of those damn pieces because they are stuck in my head from that sadistic bastard... sorry but he was.

So... as I still own my guitar and in fact own an electric now on the side, decided to visit some old sites I remember after googling a bit :)

http://www.wholenote.com/default.asp?iTarget=http%3A//www.wholenote.com/cgi-bin/page_view.pl%3Fl%3D10875%26p%3D1%26a%3D0 was the first hit, and its a song Ive fallen in love with. Simplistic to play :) sounds absolutely lush though :) (Flick to page 2... as the first page is a bit pants.. page 2 is the one Ive fallen for)

Thinking of recording myself, then playing some chords as a backing track on it. :)

But yeah, just a heads up... those looking for guitar lessons, I forgot how good Wholenote.com was :) check it out: http://www.wholenote.com
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Reply #1 on: May 01, 2006, 01:48:20 AM
best thing i came across recently was sweep picking exercises.

great for lots of swearing at your hand and embracing the sharpness of the eadgbe tuning :lol:


Quote from: muselive.com


| * Sweep Picking Examples & Warm Ups * |
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By: Alex Parker
For: Anywhere
Email: nirvanaparker@hotmail.co.uk
singing_for_absolution@hotmail.com


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Index: Examples 1a too 1c - 3 String Sweeps |
Examples 2a too 2b - 3 String Sweeps With Legato |
Examples 3a too 3c - 4 String Sweeps |
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Examples 4a too 4f - 5 String Sweeps |
Examples 5a too 5d - 6 String Sweeps |
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Example 1a - Chromatic Exercise

D D D U U D D D U U U D D D U U U D D D U U U
e|-1-------1-2---------3-4---------5-6---------7-|
B|---2---2-----3-----4-----5-----6-----7-----8---|
G|-----3---------4-5---------6-7---------8-9-----|etc.
D|-----------------------------------------------|
A|-----------------------------------------------|
E|-----------------------------------------------|
1,2,3,2,1 etc

Example 1b - Chromatic Exercise 2

D D D U U U D D D U U U D D D U U U D D D U
e|-----1-3---------2-4---------3-5---------4-6-|
B|---2-----2-----3-----3-----4-----4-----5-----|
G|-3---------1-4---------2-5---------3-6-------|etc.
D|---------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------|
3,2,1,3,2,1 etc

Example 1c - Chromatic Exercise 3

Note: This is an example of avoiding the simple 1,2,3
shapes. Dont forget that theres many versions.
This is 2,1,3. I advise you to practise them
all daily, if serious about improving technique.

D D D U U D D D U U U D D D U U U D D D U U U
e|-2---------3-4---------5-6---------7-8----------9-|
B|---1-----2-----3-----4-----5-----6-----7------8---|
G|-----3-4---------5-6---------7-8---------9-10-----|etc.
D|--------------------------------------------------|
A|--------------------------------------------------|
E|--------------------------------------------------|
2,1,3,1,2 etc



=========================================================================
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=========================================================================




Example 2a - 3 String Sweeps With Legato

Note: Repick note after slide to give different sound

D D D U U D D U U D D
e|-----1h2h4p2p1---------2h3h5p4p2---------3h4h6p4p3-|
B|---2-----------2-----3-----------3-----4-----------|
G|-3---------------3/4---------------4/5-------------|etc.
D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
E|---------------------------------------------------|
3,2,1,2,4,2,1,2,3 etc

Example 2b - 3 String Sweeps With Legato And Tapping

D D D U U U D D D
e|-----1h4p1t16p1h4p1---------2h5p2t17p2h5p2-|
B|---2----------------2-----3----------------|
G|-3--------------------3/4------------------|etc.
D|-------------------------------------------|
A|-------------------------------------------|
E|-------------------------------------------|
3,2,1,4,1,In,1,4,1,2,3 etc



=========================================================================
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=========================================================================



Example 3a - Chromatic Exercise (4 Strings)

U U U D D D D U U U U D D D D U U U U D D D D U U U U D D D D U
e|-1-----------1-2-------------3-4-------------5-6--------------7-8-|
B|---2-------2-----3---------4-----5---------6-----7----------8-----|
G|-----3---3---------4-----5---------6-----7---------8------9-------|etc.
D|-------4-------------5-6-------------7-8-------------9-10---------|
A|------------------------------------------------------------------|
E|------------------------------------------------------------------|
1,2,3,4,3,2,1,1,2,3,4,4,3,2,1,1,2,3,4,4,3,2,1,1,2,3,4,4 ,3,2,1,1

Example 3b - Chromatic Exercise 2 (4 Strings)

D D D D U U U U D D D D U U U U D D D D U U U U D D D D U
e|-------1-4-------------2-5-------------3-6-------------4-7-|
B|-----2-----3---------3-----4---------4-----5---------5-----|
G|---3---------2-----4---------3-----5---------4-----6-------|etc.
D|-4-------------1-5-------------2-6-------------3-7---------|
A|-----------------------------------------------------------|
E|-----------------------------------------------------------|
4,3,2,1 etc

Example 3c - Chromatic Exercise 3 (4 Strings)

D,D,D,D,U,U,U,U,D,D,D,D,U,U,U,U,D,D,D,D,U,U,U,U,D ,D,D,D
e|-------1-2-------------3-4-------------5-6--------------7-|
B|-----3-----4---------5-----6---------7-----8----------9---|
G|---2---------3-----4---------5-----6---------7------8-----|
D|-4-------------5-6-------------7-8-------------9-10-------|
A|----------------------------------------------------------|
E|----------------------------------------------------------|
4,2,3,1,1,3,2,4 etc



=========================================================================
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=========================================================================



Example 4a - Major Sweep 1 (5 Strings)

D,D,D,D,D,U,U,U,U
e|---------2---------|
B|-------3---3-------|
G|-----2-------2-----|
D|---4-----------4---|
A|-5---------------5-|
E|-------------------|
4,3,1,2,1,2,1,3,4

Example 4b - Major Sweep 2 (5 Strings, With Legato)

D,D,D,D,D U,U,U,U
e|---------2h5p2---------|
B|-------3-------3-------|
G|-----2-----------2-----|
D|---4---------------4---|
A|-5-------------------5-|
E|-----------------------|
4,3,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,3,4

Example 4c - Minor Sweep 1 (5 Strings)

D,D,D,D,D,U,U,U,U
e|---------1---------|
B|-------3---3-------|
G|-----2-------2-----|
D|---3-----------3---|
A|-5---------------5-|
E|-------------------|
4,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,4

Example 4d - Minor Sweep 2 (5 Strings, With Legato)

D,D,D,D,D U,U,U,U
e|---------1h5p1---------|
B|-------3-------3-------|
G|-----2-----------2-----|
D|---3---------------3---|
A|-5-------------------5-|
E|-----------------------|
4,2,1,2,1,4,1,2,1,2,4

Example 4e - Diminished Sweep 1 (5 Strings)

D,D,D,D,D,U,U,U,U
e|---------1---------|
B|-------3---3-------|
G|-----1-------1-----|
D|---3-----------3---|
A|-5---------------5-|
E|-------------------|
4,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,4

Example 4f - Applying These Shapes To Diatonic Harmony (Example In D Major)

D,D,D,D,D U,U,U,U,D,D,D,D,D U,U,U,U
e|---------2h5/7p3-----------------5h9/10p7-----------|
B|-------3---------5-------------7----------8---------|
G|-----2-------------4---------6--------------7-------|
D|---4-----------------5-----7------------------9-----|
A|-5---------------------7/9----------------------10--|
E|----------------------------------------------------|

D, D, D,D, D U, U, U, U, D, D, D, D, D U, U, U, U
e|------------9h12/14p10-------------------------12h15/17p14-------------
B|---------10------------12-------------------14-------------15----------
G|-------9------------------11-------------12-------------------14-------
D|----11-----------------------12-------14-------------------------16----
A|-12-----------------------------14/16-------------------------------17-
E|-----------------------------------------------------------------------



=========================================================================
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
=========================================================================


Example 5a - 6 String Major Sweep (With Legato)

D, D, D, D, D, D U, U, U, U, U
e|-------------------10h14p10-------------------|
B|----------------10----------10----------------|
G|-------------11----------------11-------------|
D|----------12----------------------12----------|
A|-------12----------------------------12-------|
E|-10h14----------------------------------14p10-|
1 4 2 3 2 1 1 4 1 1 2 3 2 4 1

Example 5b - String Major Sweep (With Posistion Shifts)

D, D, D, D, D, D, U, U, U, U, U
e|----------------------14h17p14----------------------|
B|-------------------15----------15-------------------|
G|-------------11/14----------------1411-------------|
D|----------12----------------------------12----------|
A|-------12----------------------------------12-------|
E|-10h14----------------------------------------14p10-|
1 4 2 3 2 3 2 4 2 3 2 3 2 4 1

Example 5c - 6 String Minor Sweep (With Legato)

D, D, D, D, D, D U, U, U, U, U
e|-------------------10h13p10-------------------|
B|----------------10----------10----------------|
G|-------------10----------------10-------------|
D|----------12----------------------12----------|
A|-------12----------------------------12-------|
E|-10h13----------------------------------13p10-|
1 4 2 3 2 1 1 4 1 1 2 3 2 4 1

Example 5d - 6 String Minor Sweep (With Posistion Shifts)

D, D, D, D, D, D, U, U, U, U, U
e|----------------------13h17p13----------------------|
B|-------------------15----------15-------------------|
G|-------------10/14----------------1410-------------|
D|----------12----------------------------12----------|
A|-------12----------------------------------12-------|
E|-10h13----------------------------------------13p10-|



but the biggest thing ive learnt is changing up an instrument.
i started on a heavenly spanish acoustic, which i put a .56 gauge string on it so i could get drop a :) tuning

an then i got for my 21st my ovation semi acoustic (with stupidly light strings which i now hate  :gag:  :gag:  :gag:  :gag:  :gag:  :gag:  :gag:  :gag:)


relearning what made me pick it up made me really thing about what i was doing.

i do advise when buying a new guitar go for a different style of neck each time. say like nice broad necks with gibson, narrow and a better curve with a rolled edge (fender) or really flat and fast necks like ibanez.

chop and change to suit till you have your sound and your feel :)
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Reply #2 on: May 01, 2006, 11:11:48 AM
My head hurts.....

Ive never had guitar lessons, hate reading theory, hate playing other peoples songs..........  I just play what comes to me.

Ive never looked at a scale in my life.
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Reply #3 on: May 01, 2006, 11:20:08 AM
then if you want to advance technically, and musically you have to learn other peoples stuff to get yourself to learn your instrument.

otherwise if you have an amasing riff in your head, and musically you havent a clue how to play it, you feel kinda silly.

plus the more i learn the better i become because its variation in styles etc.. which makes you think.

im currently on a jame iha binge atm.
oh the sickly sweet nature...
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Reply #4 on: May 01, 2006, 11:35:07 AM
James Iha eh :)

Have you listened to any of my tracks?  Download the No Turning Back Instrumental and let me know what you think.
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Reply #5 on: May 01, 2006, 12:10:28 PM
is it in any funny formats?
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Reply #6 on: May 01, 2006, 13:56:34 PM
Quote from: red
is it in any funny formats?


MP4, so no.
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Reply #7 on: May 01, 2006, 15:54:34 PM
havent grabbed it yet.

ive been on the beach most of the day.
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Reply #8 on: May 01, 2006, 17:59:37 PM
Quote from: red
havent grabbed it yet.

ive been on the beach most of the day.


Nice ;)
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