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Chat => Entertainment & Technology => Topic started by: Bacon on May 03, 2011, 14:07:07 PM
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So we all know PSN has been compromised in the last week:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/sony-admits-utter-psn-failure-your-personal-data-has-been-stolen.ars
News today confirms it was not limited to just PSN but now they are admitting Station has been been compromised also:
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/05/03/sony-online-entertainment-compromised-too/1
Sony doesn't believe that the primary credit card database has been accessed, but has discovered evidence that an older database of non-US customers has been - a fact which directly affects 12,700 customers
This wouldn't be so much of an issue if these companies let you remove your private data when you stopped using their services.
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Bin Laden probably regretted signing up to playstation network.
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Bin Laden probably regretted signing up to playstation network.
:rofl:
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There is not liking the hacking community and then out right declaring war on them directly. Sony did and they have got their ass ripped in the process.
All of it of course is not on but yeah - OUCH
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SWEEPSTAKE TIME! :lol:
Ok, I'm going for Friday 13th, 6pm our time.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/05/09/psn-may-stay-offline-until-may-31/1
hahaha, might not be back on until 31st :lol: :thumbdown: how rubbish :lol:
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Read that earlier too on another site. I'm guessing a lot of games companies will be annoyed at Sony over this as a lot of people will hold off buying games until the service is active and others will spend money on other games, possibly on rival systems.
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So glad I moved to Xbox 360 and know that details are much more secure with Microsoft compared to Sony. I don't think I can trust them now hearing all this going on.
May even think to completely deactivate my PSN permanently.
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Read that earlier too on another site. I'm guessing a lot of games companies will be annoyed at Sony over this as a lot of people will hold off buying games until the service is active and others will spend money on other games, possibly on rival systems.
Brink is out now/this week? And that has a big online component and their PS3 sales will now suffer because of that.
You had Portal 2 with a huge online element and Valve just investing a lot of money with their PS3 integration stuff and offerings, Socom came out that week and one other big game I forget what.
But yeah, not only players they got to deal with, all the companies and their online componants and online mico transaction aspects of their games not able to work you got to calm and appease.
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Also they have their Music and Video streaming / selling service which is also down with the PSN network. Overall a big expensive hit for Sony :P
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So glad I moved to Xbox 360 and know that details are much more secure with Microsoft compared to Sony. I don't think I can trust them now hearing all this going on.
May even think to completely deactivate my PSN permanently.
There's another side to that penny though. I'd be inclined to argue that if your details aren't secure with Sony then they aren't secure anywhere.
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Pre-paid FTW.
It was and probably still is cheaper to buy the PSN cards when they're on offer, I got some £20 ones for £15 for example :thumbup:
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So glad I moved to Xbox 360 and know that details are much more secure with Microsoft compared to Sony. I don't think I can trust them now hearing all this going on.
May even think to completely deactivate my PSN permanently.
There's another side to that penny though. I'd be inclined to argue that if your details aren't secure with Sony then they aren't secure anywhere.
That's a very good point. What happened with Sony was very very advanced according to what I heard and now the FBI are involved with the hacking and data breach.
It is scary to think that it's not safe anywhere even when you have the secure lock icon on websites, is it secure enough?
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So glad I moved to Xbox 360 and know that details are much more secure with Microsoft compared to Sony. I don't think I can trust them now hearing all this going on.
May even think to completely deactivate my PSN permanently.
There's another side to that penny though. I'd be inclined to argue that if your details aren't secure with Sony then they aren't secure anywhere.
Nah, Exports are coming to similar conclusions on this.
In some way or very much related Sony Relied heavily on their key code on the PS3 and to some degree used that with their access to the network. Sony has had failed access attempts in the past and these have been unsuccessful. It has only been since this "master key" on their console has been unlocked that there has been a successful attack on their network.
From what I have read on the net, Sony has put heavy reliance on a feature of their system which has always been at risk if something was known (possible this master key of the consoles) as well as that system being similar to what they had on SEO platforms before their console network became anything of anything.
While secure in the focused sense it was this only method and not other multi level security methods most large systems (Xbox especially) apply.
This has caused them to take down the system and it is taking so long to rebuild this from the ground up.
You will likely find that the same form of exploit was applied to the SEO network which I bet has not had its framework updated in a very long time.
Sony and online have always been playing catchup. They not quite ever "Got it"
I would not be surprised at all that to catch up in terms of features of their online network with Xbox Live they may have cut corners.
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To be fair, Sony can't really handle this any better than they have done given the scale of the problem. I would say if anything this should now mean the future security of their systems is going to be more secure than any other platform. I'll be happy to go back on PSN when its all back up and running.
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To be fair, Sony can't really handle this any better than they have done given the scale of the problem. I would say if anything this should now mean the future security of their systems is going to be more secure than any other platform. I'll be happy to go back on PSN when its all back up and running.
Oh Mate, they have been ripped a new one left right and centre for how they have handled this. They not been good handling this at all.
They are under investigation in the US in regards to how it took them a week to let people know their details etc being stolen. Over there this needs to disclosed ASAP - even it is potential they need to disclose it. They will likely cop at least a HUGE millions worth of fine for that over in the US. There are similar regulations in the EU so likely to cop that too.
The game developers and publishers are pissed too.
They have not been informed very well by Sony either. Capcom for example another company venting frustrations with them just this week.
You can not guarantee that what they implement will be more secure then others. You need to understand that they have declared war on the hacking community directly, calling them out, blaming them for every issue they have had recently even when it has not bee down to them. I am totally agaisnt hacking of course but what this has now meant is that they have been made a target of themselves.
You can be certain that as soon as their system goes back up that the same people and others who got them in the first place will make more attempts to get into the system.
I would be very sad to see it but the odds on it all going down again within a few weeks is actually very likely. If they can get through a month or too with it being online they will be sweet but I would not rush back onto their network when it comes back online if I was you.
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Oh Mate, they have been ripped a new one left right and centre for how they have handled this. They not been good handling this at all.
I disagree.
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I don't mean handling it better in terms of notifying people, etc, as obviously they should have done that sooner, but in terms of actually tackling the problem I'd rather see them spending a month working on a new and more secure solution than throwing up something ad hoc and waiting for it to be hacked again. There are only so many ways to get into a system before every loophole or backdoor is closed off, I think the notion of not rushing back onto the network in case it gets hacked again is overreacting, just don't bung your credit card details into their system straight away if you're that concerned. Bearing in mind PSN is a free service, I see not right in kicking up a fuss over it being down for a while even if I was a hardcore gamer on it 24x7.
The real situation is that the hackers themselves are egoist pricks, they are the ones causing the grief and Sony are just responding badly to them rather than bending over and taking it. I don't particularly want hackers breaking console systems, exploting games and generally spoiling the experience for everyone else that pays for them. It's not like the crackers that broke the code to decrypt DVDs so everyone can copy movies, no one would complain about that as that only affects the industry - it's not like you log online to watch films with other people and interact. Hacking the consoles only serves to cause problems for gamers though.
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The real situation is that the hackers themselves are egoist pricks, they are the ones causing the grief and Sony are just responding badly to them rather than bending over and taking it. I don't particularly want hackers breaking console systems, exploting games and generally spoiling the experience for everyone else that pays for them. It's not like the crackers that broke the code to decrypt DVDs so everyone can copy movies, no one would complain about that as that only affects the industry - it's not like you log online to watch films with other people and interact. Hacking the consoles only serves to cause problems for gamers though.
Precisely. I'm sick and tired of people blaming Sony when they should be levelling their frustration at the hackers. They are not the lovely Robin Hood types that the internet at large sometimes makes them out to be, they are annoying little swines at best and at worst criminals who should be dealt with to the fullest extent of the law. I've absolutely no sympathy for them, all they have done is ruin the service for the majority of users who couldn't care one way or the other about their inane little cause.
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I agree that with it being a free service its not really an issue, if it were Xbox live i would at least expect some free time proportionate to the time lost while the system was down, its better that Sony fix this issue now than to slap some quick fix together and in a week or two it all happens again.
I don't understand why fingers seem to be being pointed in the wrong direction, surely the people who have caused this issue are those that have unlocked the consoles for piracy? The security code is part of the console after all and not the online service.
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Sony are even going to be offering a couple of free game downloads once PSN is back up, you can't really say better than that for an apology gift on a free service!
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I agree that with it being a free service its not really an issue, if it were Xbox live i would at least expect some free time proportionate to the time lost while the system was down.
What about folks like me who are psn+ members?
That's not a free service.
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In my opinion neXus is right about Sony handling this badly, from the off the smoke and mirrors approach regarding stolen details they used was absolutely unforgivable, as is someone not doing a security audit once the console was fully compromised, I find it incredible that not one person didn't think about the knock on effect of the console being blown to bits. I've read reports on Sony servers running on ancient apache versions that where exploited easily once discovered, laughable security loopholes.
This is a multi billion dollar company employing a shed load of people, not bobs computers down the road, the lack of transparancy/regularity of official statements is just crap. Sony only seem to want to keep it hush hush as much as possible, the rest isn't important.
Hacker wise regardless of what has been done they shouldn't have been able to do this in the first place, this was preventable with basic business and security procedures, it's the nature of how Sony got hacked, those responsible for security need showing the door and tbh probably have.
They should just come out and say we're rebuilding it from scratch, because if they're not doing that and taking this long then they need shooting!
Sony are even going to be offering a couple of free game downloads once PSN is back up, you can't really say better than that for an apology gift on a free service!
Depends, are they just some budget bin rubbish? wait and see I guess :heehaw:
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A big victim on this is the ps3 steam service, which on my very limited play before PSN pooed itself worked fantastically, thankfully I was able to activate my PC copy of portal 2 before it went down, and flog the ps3 disc some time ago now :thumbup:
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What about folks like me who are psn+ members?
That's not a free service.
I forgot about that. The right thing for them to do then would be to give you an extra month or two free, or refund part of your subscription charge.
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I don't mean handling it better in terms of notifying people, etc, as obviously they should have done that sooner, but in terms of actually tackling the problem I'd rather see them spending a month working on a new and more secure solution than throwing up something ad hoc and waiting for it to be hacked again. There are only so many ways to get into a system before every loophole or backdoor is closed off, I think the notion of not rushing back onto the network in case it gets hacked again is overreacting, just don't bung your credit card details into their system straight away if you're that concerned. Bearing in mind PSN is a free service, I see not right in kicking up a fuss over it being down for a while even if I was a hardcore gamer on it 24x7.
The real situation is that the hackers themselves are egoist pricks, they are the ones causing the grief and Sony are just responding badly to them rather than bending over and taking it. I don't particularly want hackers breaking console systems, exploting games and generally spoiling the experience for everyone else that pays for them. It's not like the crackers that broke the code to decrypt DVDs so everyone can copy movies, no one would complain about that as that only affects the industry - it's not like you log online to watch films with other people and interact. Hacking the consoles only serves to cause problems for gamers though.
No doubt or question to the hackers being Dicks but Sony have not been working on fixing this for a month mate. Again you need to get that they sat on this for a just over a week with just taking it down. Full investigations only started 5 days after the actual hack. An implementation to sort it all out has not long started.
Watch the Conference Sony gave, it is all very apologetic etc but even by their own information - VERY slow to deal with this.
Fixing it and seemingly doing it properly - GREAT! - Handling it well ? No.
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A big victim on this is the ps3 steam service, which on my very limited play before PSN pooed itself worked fantastically, thankfully I was able to activate my PC copy of portal 2 before it went down, and flog the ps3 disc some time ago now :thumbup:
Because Valve have recently made lots of man love with Sony at press events and media about it all and have clearly invested time and contract deals with Sony over this and future plans they have not said anything but you can bet steam is coming out of their ears. :muttley:
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Sony don't exactly have a history of looking after their customers so i don't see how this is a surprise to anyone.
Need i mention the SWG NGE, or trying to get a simple bugged mission removed from your ingame mission log had to be done through the customer service system which led to no response and no fix, it was like trying to get blood from a stone.
The only real issue in all of this is that credit card details have gone missing, although i'm fussed also about names and addresses etc being public knowledge, its already either been left on some train or leaked from some online store server thats running age old software more than likely, and half the companies you sign upto products/services with, with call centres based out of the UK are selling your details onto telemarketers anyway.
As for PSN+ accounts, well no comment, your the first person i have met who has one!
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Need i mention the SWG Combat Upgrade.
You mean the "NGE" (New Game Enhancements). The Combat Upgrade was needed and welcomed and brought a lot of people back to a dying game.
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Need i mention the SWG Combat Upgrade.
You mean the "NGE" (New Game Enhancements). The Combat Upgrade was needed and welcomed and brought a lot of people back to a dying game.
Edited, my memory sucks :P
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It is indeed back on, 3.61 software update when you sign in.
edit, odd, it lets you download the software update but when you try to sign it says that it's undergoing maintanence, likely being switched back on per region as the video suggests.
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i wonder how this affected business for lovefilm - or netflix in the states.
I think Sony have handled it as good as they can, its going to be bad press all around.
Plus some nice freebies
As a compromise for the downtime, Sony is offering all users
1 free year of identity theft protection and insurance,
two free PS3 games from a choice of 5,
and a free month to Playstation Plus
quite a decent thing to do
FOr non PS games
SOE is offering a “welcome back (http://www.soe.com/securityupdate/welcomeback/)” program for all Station account holders, including 30 days of free game time plus one day for each day the servers were down, or 15 more days. Players will also get 500 Station cash, SOE’s virtual currency, which can be used to purchase items in games.
Lifetime subscribers will received in-game currency instead of game time, since they are not on a monthly billing cycle.
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i wonder how this affected business for lovefilm - or netflix in the states.
I think Sony have handled it as good as they can, its going to be bad press all around.
Plus some nice freebies
As a compromise for the downtime, Sony is offering all users
1 free year of identity theft protection and insurance,
two free PS3 games from a choice of 5,
and a free month to Playstation Plus
quite a decent thing to do
FOr non PS games
SOE is offering a “welcome back (http://www.soe.com/securityupdate/welcomeback/)” program for all Station account holders, including 30 days of free game time plus one day for each day the servers were down, or 15 more days. Players will also get 500 Station cash, SOE’s virtual currency, which can be used to purchase items in games.
Lifetime subscribers will received in-game currency instead of game time, since they are not on a monthly billing cycle.
Looks like i sold my PS3 at the wrong time :P
Oh well i might end up with a 30 day sub to SWG!
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A free month to PSN+ is a waste of time.
They should offer that to everyone anyway.
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A free month to PSN+ is a waste of time.
They should offer that to everyone anyway.
i signed up to psn+ once.... waste of money.
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I also reckon, with how much they've lost and the cost of rebuilding the system that they'll start charging for PSN within the next 12 months.
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Fullybackonproperlyandeverythingguv.
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Nice video really.
2 Free games will be cool. Will have to go see what the 5 are.
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Sony has announced the titles that will be included in its 'Welcome Back' programme for Europe and North America.
In Europe, PS3 owners can choose two of the following games - LittleBigPlanet, Infamous, Wipeout HD/Fury, Ratchet and Clank: Quest for Booty and Dead Nation. In Germany, the games Infamous and Dead Nation will be replaced with Super Stardust HD and Hustle Kings.
In addition, European PSP owners can choose two of the following titles - LittleBigPlanet PSP, ModNation PSP, Pursuit Force and Killzone Liberation. In Germany, Pursuit Force and Killzone Liberation will be replaced with Everybody's Golf 2 and Buzz Junior Jungle Party.
In North America, PS3 owners have a similar selection between two of Dead Nation, inFAMOUS, LittleBigPlanet, Super Stardust HD and Wipeout HD + Fury. The North American PSP selection is identical to the European game selection.
The 'Welcome Back' titles will be available for 30 days after the PlayStation Store is back online, and can be kept forever.
In addition to the free games, all PSN users will receive 30 days of free access to PlayStation Plus. All existing PS Plus subscribers will also receive an additional free day for each day the service was down. Sony is currently working on a 'Welcome Back' package of Home DLC for users.
PSN services began to return over the weekend in Europe and North America. In Japan, PSN services are still offline.
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That's freakin sweet, I wanted to get Wipeout HD and LittleBigPlanet before but never had the spare readies :D
God bless Sony ;D
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Fullybackonproperlyandeverythingguv.
Not quite, only multiplayer gaming is available. PS Store is still down.
As for the games they are giving away, for me it'll have to be Wipeout and Dead Nation as I already have the other 3. As for the PSP, I'll probably get LBP and Modnation
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Fullybackonproperlyandeverythingguv.
Not quite, only multiplayer gaming is available. PS Store is still down.
As for the games they are giving away, for me it'll have to be Wipeout and Dead Nation as I already have the other 3. As for the PSP, I'll probably get LBP and Modnation
True, I got caught up with the excitement of it being logginababababble I didn't even care about the store :heehaw:
I hope I'm not the only one here with accounts in other regions as well being as it's free to do.
I'm curious as to what my Hong Kong account and my Japan account get me, wish I made a US one now though :thumbdown:
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I have a US account but not a Japanese one. Sadly the US games offered are the same as the Euro ones.
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But you might be able to use the 2 profiles and install 4 on your system ;D
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I have little big planet and infamous, really they should have included newer games, it's not little big planet 2!
I'll get wipeout and dead nation, but can't see me being terribly fussed about either tbh
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Hmmmm my PSP is hacked to hell and never been on PSN... think I could claim something? :P
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Eurogamer has seen video evidence that verifies reports that Sony's PlayStation Network password reset system suffers from an exploit that allows attackers to change your password using only your PSN account email and your date of birth – information compromised in the PSN hack of 20th April.
Sony today made PSN sign-in unavailable for a number of its websites, including PlayStation.com and the PlayStation forums. All PlayStation game titles are also unavailable.
Crucially, the website users are directed to by password reset emails is now down.
"Unfortunately this also means that those who are still trying to change their password via Playstation.com or Qriocity.com will be unable to do so for the time being," Sony said. "This is due to essential maintenance and at present it is unclear how long this will take.
"In the meantime you will still be able to sign into PSN via your PlayStation 3 and PSP devices to connect to game services and view Trophy/Friends information."
Sony later tweeted: "Clarification: this maintenance doesn't affect PSN on consoles, only the website you click through to from the password change email."
The exploit was first revealed on Nyleveia.com.
"I would suggest that you secure your accounts now by creating a completely new email that you will not use ANYWHERE ELSE, and switching your PSN account to use this new email," recommends the site.
"You risk having your account stolen, when this hack becomes more public, if you do not make sure that your PSN account's email is one that cannot be affiliated with or otherwise traced to you."
NeoGAF users have also corroborated the claim.
Nyleveia claims to have contacted Sony about the exploit. "The system went down approximately 15 minutes after I received a response from SCEE on the matter."
Sony has taken the page in question down, and with any luck is fixing the exploit.
Eurogamer has contacted Sony for comment.
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Haha brilliant! You would of thought they would of been careful about brining the systems back up but oops.
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Hahahahahah :D
This is quite entertaining :D
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'Primary reports seem to be that updating to firmware 3.61 will cause PlayStations to overheat. There have been various reports of this on a few different games now, all reporting their PS3s turning off or 'Red Lighting' after having installed 3.61.'
http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2011/05/19/rockstar-new-firmware-causing-ps3-overheati/1
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lmao
Sony last night condemned Rockstar's claim as "rumour" and "speculation". Rockstar has removed the offending post from its website.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-05-19-ps3-firmware-3-61-not-crashing-la-noire
Looks like people are just jumping on the bandwagon now :muttley:
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Well least its keeping us entertained. Maybe sony are going for the 'under the rug' method of PR.
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So has anyone actually tried this yet?
I've just plugged in my PS3 to get back on PSN and download these free games, but I'm getting a message saying that its down for maintenance still...
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So has anyone actually tried this yet?
I've just plugged in my PS3 to get back on PSN and download these free games, but I'm getting a message saying that its down for maintenance still...
My nephew has been trying for days, looks like it is still down, shocking really, but they need to get it right, so better late than never.
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Apparently the store is 'hopefully' going to be ready by the end of May I have just read Sony stated. So maybe this week sometime if we're lucky, but I agree I would rather wait for it to be done properly. I just don't want to miss the window of opportunity to grab Wipeout HD! 8)
Latest news, end of the week hopefully:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/30/full-psn-services-including-playstation-store-return-this-week/ (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/05/30/full-psn-services-including-playstation-store-return-this-week/)
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Yeah, they were saying it would be up by the end of May, but that hasn't happened, so they're now saying it will be back up by the end of the week. We'll see what happens at the end of this week though.
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Yeah, they were saying it would be up by the end of May, but that hasn't happened, so they're now saying it will be back up by the end of the week. We'll see what happens at the end of this week though.
Next, they will be saying its "Working as Intended" :muttley:
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givdispeepleair!
It's all back online now apparantly, so go and get your freebeeeees
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givdispeepleair!
It's all back online now apparantly, so go and get your freebeeeees
Nope, store is back up but they aren't giving the free stuff yet. They are saying it will be available soon.
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That's even more annoying! I'll have a check later but won't be holding my breath
(http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/total_recall_arnold_scream1.jpg)
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Prob scared the amount of people trying to claim their free games will take the servers down again :P
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its working! just tested
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So, i got an email saying i can have 30 days subscription to a game, but i cant remember my login details or email used for my old Star Wars Galaxies account. :(
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Again
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/06/sony-lulzsec/
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Oh sony, what are you doing?
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PSN is offering out the free games now. The servers are getting hammered though, so it can throw up errors at times. I've got Wipeout downloading nicely and LBP will be next. 8)
They are also handing out three free films too: http://uk.playstation.com/psn/news/articles/detail/item378986/Download-these-films-on-us-this-weekend/?site_locale=en_GB&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://uk.playstation.com/psn/news/articles/detail/item378986/Download-these-films-on-us-this-weekend/?site_locale=en_GB&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Hats off to sony, you can't really say fairer than that in my book :thumbup: :cheers:
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Stuffed at my end.
Picked Wipeout and Something else, then the option dissapeared, no games in my download list.
Can't pick the games to try and download again.
Great Jorb Sony!
Although, Burnout Paradise and James Pond are a nice freebie for PSN+ members.
Edit - Fix
Sony blog has a fix for this I think, try this if anyone gets stuck with it messing up
go to your account, and then select services I think (after the store button)
and then its something about sony services, press that and go start, and itll put you back in the store with the available games...
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"If at any point you can’t find the ‘Welcome Back Free Game 1 or 2’ products, the list of available titles or a game you’ve selected, go to your XMB>PlayStation Network>Account Management>Transaction Management>Services List>SCEA Promotions to complete the process."
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Yeah I had the same thing happen but that was after I had downloaded Wipeout. I followed these instructions to get back to the Store page and was able to get LBP no sweat. I checked out the movies as well but they are garbage, not worth the download. Other regions seemed to get a much better choice of movies!
http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/03/welcome-back-content-is-available-now-frequently-asked-que... (http://blog.eu.playstation.com/2011/06/03/welcome-back-content-is-available-now-frequently-asked-questions-answered/)
Q: I no longer have the option to choose my free Welcome Back games. What can I do?
A: If you navigate away from the Welcome Back section of the store without choosing your free games or exit the store completely you may need to follow the below in order to choose and download your free games.
On your PlayStation 3 or PlayStation Portable navigate to the PlayStation Network icon on the XMB
Log into your PlayStation Network account and choose Account Management > Transaction Management > Services List
Choose “PlayStation Network Promotions” from the list of services displayed
Select either “PS3 Free Games” or “PSP Free Games” and then choose “Select Content”
You will be taken to the store to choose your remaining free games.
Although, Burnout Paradise and James Pond are a nice freebie for PSN+ members.
Also Streets of Rage 2! Classic!
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This is the kicker.
They give two great games away on PSN+ as a sort of enticement to stay.
When they first started PSN+ they gave you LBP, then pretty much garbage up till now. They give you Burnout Paradise. I bet next month there's an amazing game too and then junk again.
When your free PSN+ membership ends, you'll not get to play those games. You only get to play them when your a subscriber.
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I'm really happy with WipeoutHD-Fury for free, been playing it a bit and it's cool :thumbup:
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I absolutely loved Wipeout on the PC, banging soundtrack too. I can't wait to see it in HD glory :w00t:
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Still waiting for my slow-ass internet connection to download it.
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Awesome! 90,000 accounts breached again!
Hexus Link (http://hexus.net/gaming/news/industry/32136-sony-confirms-90000-accounts-breached-new-network-attack/)
Fail Sony, Real Fail!
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Hmm, it seems everyone is jumping the gun here ???
From reading their statement and not the conjecture all that's happened is that there have been attempts made to use login credentials to access accounts - this could be the original batch that was stolen just being run through to see if they can gain easy login access - hardly 'hacked' and 'compromised' just because a few people never changed their passwords.
Basically, if you haven't updated your PSN account by now you're a bit of a tard.
Given the news on GT5 I bet the hacker is some Forza fanboy :P
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Serves me right for not reading to properly before running off to lunch... they still should of locked out all old accounts until the customer reset their passwords :P
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What news on GT5? That it should be likened to Duke Nukem with what not to do with a long-ass development time :D
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The big November update adding in car interiors for every car, improving loading times, scalable weather, etc.
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The big November update adding in car interiors for every car, improving loading times, scalable weather, etc.
It still sucks balls compared to Forza, and you know it!
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The big November update adding in car interiors for every car, improving loading times, scalable weather, etc.
Don't get me wrong, GT5 is good but forza is better.
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the latest hack wasn't just on unused accounts. Have a friend whose account, which he did still use, has been breached and he received an email saying that Sony have deleted his account. He has said he wont be creating a new one and just sticking to xbox for gaming now
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So what's the deal with that, had he actually changed his account password after the previous hacks?
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yes he had. he said he was really annoyed this time though as Sony have deleted the account and said he needs to make a new one, which he isn't doing.
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Ah that's a whole different kettle of fish then if accounts are being hacked for real all over again, I think I'd be inclined to do the same and not bother with it if that happened too, deleting someones account for their mistake is not right.