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on: October 26, 2009, 22:13:06 PM
Just curious if anyone has any theyd like to share.

Ive never, ever, used or made a playlist before in any app, always just played albums through from start to finish in Winamp and then iTunes.

But with spotify making it so easy to listen to the discographies of groups/people last.fm recommends, Im finding the odd track that I find really, really good, amongst what I wouldnt ordinarily listen to, and have been saving it to a miscellaneous awesomeness playlist.

Would be interesting to listen to other members playlists if they have a similar thing going on.

And on a semi-related note...I REALLY miss the old style last.fm recommendations where they gave you a list that was similar to your "most played" charts, with the bands at the top not just being the most similar to what I listen to, but weighted by how many times I listened to their similar artists etc.


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Reply #1 on: October 26, 2009, 23:19:34 PM
Don t suppose you or anyone else here has an invite to spotify going spare?

Have been meaning to try for a while but without an invite you have to pay or wait in vain hope of a spot when they add more people.

I generally dont like paying for something without trying first.

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Reply #2 on: October 26, 2009, 23:33:03 PM
doesnt that link from another thread here still work where you just bypass the invite bit?

Tis what I used:

https://www.spotify.com/en/get-started/

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Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 00:39:33 AM
Yer you can just bipass their stupid inviteness using the link above. If you are still having problems just say and Im sure one of us can send you an invite (if its possible)
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Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 01:02:30 AM
Thanks that worked a treat, seems like a nice system, how long it can sustain itself, i dont know, as the business model doesnt seem to scale to large numbers.

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Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 01:15:23 AM
adverts every 3 odd songs is radio realistic and add the odd £9.99 a month subscriber = a realistic amount of money.

Its basically on demand radio with adverts. I really hope TV goes this way.
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Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 01:32:25 AM
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adverts every 3 odd songs is radio realistic and add the odd £9.99 a month subscriber = a realistic amount of money.

Its basically on demand radio with adverts. I really hope TV goes this way.


Problem is artists are already leaving, especially smaller ones. When you see reports of some getting just a couple of dollars for 50000 plays of their song then something isnt right.

I agree it is the future of music, but the way the funds are distributed currently wont keep publishers and artists happy for long unless they see a real return on it.

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Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 08:50:43 AM
Couple of dollars for 50k plays is better than no dollars for 50k plays from pirated copies?


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Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 23:02:34 PM
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Thanks that worked a treat, seems like a nice system, how long it can sustain itself, i dont know, as the business model doesnt seem to scale to large numbers.


How so? A little bit of a lot is more than a lot of not much possibly?

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Reply #9 on: October 28, 2009, 02:31:30 AM
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adverts every 3 odd songs is radio realistic and add the odd £9.99 a month subscriber = a realistic amount of money.

Its basically on demand radio with adverts. I really hope TV goes this way.


Problem is artists are already leaving, especially smaller ones. When you see reports of some getting just a couple of dollars for 50000 plays of their song then something isnt right.

I agree it is the future of music, but the way the funds are distributed currently wont keep publishers and artists happy for long unless they see a real return on it.


Look into how much they get at present from regular airwave radio.

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Reply #10 on: October 28, 2009, 02:54:07 AM
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Look into how much they get at present from regular airwave radio.


The difference being by tuning in to radio you are given the songs as wanted to be played by the station/music companies. They are near using it as advertising for the artist.

When people have access to the songs they want when they want to listen to it, even with adverts, it removes the need to purchase. Especially with the likes of offline playback and remote access over the iphone or android system using their phone connection.

Why bother buying music again?

The small amount of money being produced from this for the majority of content will only last so long. Unless they are shown direct relationships with people buying the music from having heard it on spotify then the big companies wont stay happy with the set up forever.

Either the price will go up, the amount of advertising will go up or the music industry is going to accept a much smaller intake of money than they are used to.

As I said this is a nice system and in the small scale it provides a good way to promote artists and songs. But as accessibility to the service increases the purchase will not be needed.

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Reply #11 on: October 28, 2009, 03:09:32 AM
I disagree. Using this service means old songs continue to be played generating revenue for long time spans.
Secondly, unless you are a popular artist you wont get played on airwave radio thus bands that I listen to probably get near to zero from the radio
Thirdly, you need to purchase the music if you want to put it on your ipod or have complete control over which songs to play.

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Reply #12 on: October 28, 2009, 03:12:44 AM
I think we just have to accept a change of paradigm.

There are tight people in the world. Those who will pirate music and pirate windows 7. They will justify it by saying Microsoft can afford it or windows is crap.

But thats a few tight students. The rest of the working world is happy to pay $30 for windows 7 since its freaking brilliant. The revenue generated is immense.

And with music, there are those like me, who buy CDs, and many who buy digital downloads. We provide the revenue stream so the hippies stoners can continue to have a 400gb hard drive full of mp3s. But these people have no money and wouldnt buy the music even if piracy was somehow removed forever.

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Reply #13 on: October 28, 2009, 09:10:27 AM
I dont think advertising will necessarily go up, but the variety of ads might. I mean, when listening to spotify 50% of ads at the mo are for Becks and the other 50% are split between maybe 3 artists that have a new album out.

I know its uber popular now, but I think there might be a second wave where it goes totally mainstream with media coverage etc. When that happens they would hopefully get more advertisers on board (doesnt mean more ads, just more variety) so thats more revenue.

£9.99 x 12 is a damned site more than what many people pay a year for music, including me.

As to the whole music you want to listen to on demand, I dont think thats entirely valid. I think many many people use spotify to listen to music theyve not heard before. I mean, music I really like, I have on my computer. But thats barely been touched the last few weeks as Ive been using spotify with last.fm. Ive listened to more new groups/peoples albums in the last 3 weeks than I normally would in a year. I never listen to the radio, so for people like me this is pretty good advertising for the groups imo.

And as Sam said, some groups just arent big enough to get on the air.

If the issue is with the artists not getting enough money, the alternative you havent mentioned is that rather than ramping up costs and ads to the consumer, spotify could just pay the artists more off the bat. I doubt they dont have a large profit margin already tbh.

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Reply #14 on: October 28, 2009, 10:30:06 AM
For someone like you it is perfect it is exposing you to bands you wouldnt heard of and causing you to pay for music you normally wouldnt pay for.

The problem is if this becomes mainstream then you will find the people who currently buy music (well someone is making artists number one each week) will adopt this service if it gives them access to the same music but in a monthly fee form sort of like indefinite renting then they will.

You only need to see what is happening with the dvd/bluray business in America where they are now blocking rental companies from releasing new films until they have been on sale for a few weeks because they hope it encourages more direct sales.

The media industry is running scared atm and anything which eats into their bottom line will eventually face their wrath and this service in its current form will definitely do this if the regular buyers stop purchases in favour of this model..

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