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Chat => Entertainment & Technology => Topic started by: neXus on July 26, 2009, 00:48:07 AM
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http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/07/first-look-stargate-universe-trailer.html
They have gone all modern US Drama Series with the stargate law. Good attempt to try and keep with the modern popularity but will it work with a sci fi.. I my syfy (ROFL) we will see.
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I dunno what to make of it, its got an interesting new movie look to it.
Robert Carlye was an interesting cast.
They are certainly taking their sweet arse time with it.
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Stargate meets Voyager, Im looking forward to it
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It is an interesting concept. Stuck on probably the most advanced ancient ship but one that is a bit banged up. Also the ship that makes the stargates.
Looks like they have also avoided having past series cast in there. Does look like a whole new style of show.
I can not wait to see it, I hope it is good. There needs to be some decent Sci Fi again. I also hope they learned from what they tried in Atlantis that while it was not bad ultimately did not work.
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Looks okay, will definately be watching.
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It is an interesting concept. Stuck on probably the most advanced ancient ship but one that is a bit banged up. Also the ship that makes the stargates.
Looks like they have also avoided having past series cast in there. Does look like a whole new style of show.
I can not wait to see it, I hope it is good. There needs to be some decent Sci Fi again. I also hope they learned from what they tried in Atlantis that while it was not bad ultimately did not work.
The question has to be though, is it true sci-fi? Does it hold a mirror up to humanity and explore the human condition? Or is it just about space and battles and things? If its the latter then its not real sci-fi unfortunately.
I was never a fan of either Stargate show but this one looks a little different and Ill certainly check it out, especially seeing as Robert Carlyle is taking a lead role.
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The question has to be though, is it true sci-fi? Does it hold a mirror up to humanity and explore the human condition? Or is it just about space and battles and things? If its the latter then its not real sci-fi unfortunately.
what the f**k is "real sci fi"? just because it wont be as ridiculous as battlestar galactica doesnt mean itll be any less of a sci fi genre show
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I would also have to disagree with the statement.
Sci-Fi = Science Fiction.
IMHO this means so long as its not fact, IE, a documentary about something scientific, but uses some scientific principles beyond general fiction, it equals Sci-Fi. Much in the same way Horror can be truly horrific without any real gore (IE, pyschological), or can just simply be horrifying in the most basic of terms, its still horror.
To say that some things dont count is a little "film buff snobbish" for want of a better way of putting it, no offence meant.
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Looks like an impressive series visually at least. Some big bucks been spent to get this to work by the looks of things.
Only thing other than that, OMG Richard Dean Anderson has put on weight. I barely recognised him at the start there.
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Science fiction has a very long and distinguished history and the very reason that it exists is to talk about humanity and real life issues but defamiliarise them in such a way as to make them accessible and understandable to the audience. Its hard to hold a mirror up to society and be completely honest, and that is why sci-fi exists, by moving the setting somewhere different and unusual is a far better and more comprehensive to critique life, the universe and everything and explore the nature of humanity.
Ive sent many years of my life studying this so Im sorry guys, if you dont agree youre just plain wrong, thats all there is to it. You dont like it, you know where the door is. -)
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Only thing other than that, OMG Richard Dean Anderson has put on weight. I barely recognised him at the start there.
wow... i had to watch the start twice there because I didnt believe it was him !!!
maybe its a fat suit ? he is hiding behind the uniform/hat/sun glasses ?
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Science fiction has a very long and distinguished history and the very reason that it exists is to talk about humanity and real life issues but defamiliarise them in such a way as to make them accessible and understandable to the audience. Its hard to hold a mirror up to society and be completely honest, and that is why sci-fi exists, by moving the setting somewhere different and unusual is a far better and more comprehensive to critique life, the universe and everything and explore the nature of humanity.
Ive sent many years of my life studying this so Im sorry guys, if you dont agree youre just plain wrong, thats all there is to it. You dont like it, you know where the door is. -)
Well I think ill take solace in the fact that I can watch sci fi films/series and be thoroughly entertained by them and not start to whinge about how they in no way relate to to current events. Maybe you should watch the news?
Maybe they should make a new classification of genres, you could have normal sci fi which normal people watch and are entertained by, and we could also have elitist snobbery sci fi which people like you can watch.
I know which one im going to watch, and ill f**kin love it
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Ive sent many years of my life studying this so Im sorry guys, if you dont agree youre just plain wrong, thats all there is to it. You dont like it, you know where the door is. -)
That’s a bit of an arrogant statement to make? No wait it’s a very arrogant statement to make, that you’re right and were wrong so like it? Science Fiction encompasses lots of different elements and can’t be defined as just one thing or another, even science fiction writers have trouble defining it.
A quote by an Amercan sci-fi author I found, which sums it up pretty well.
Lester Del Rey wrote, "Even the devoted aficionado– or fan- has a hard time trying to explain what science fiction is", and that the reason for there not being a "full satisfactory definition" is that "there are no easily delineated limits to science fiction."
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Like I said. Im right. Wonderful, isnt it? 8-)
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Chris, Can I ask you something.
Where did you send your years to?
Belgium?
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I love Sci-Fi - If I could absorb Sci-Fi though an IV I would be hooked up 24/7
Even crap Sci-Fi is good, becuase its all an escape from reality and a chance to hope and dream of an exciting future.
Maybe Nasa will send someone to Mars, I think thats gona take another lifetime of development. Sci-Fi brings the future to life now.
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Looks like an impressive series visually at least. Some big bucks been spent to get this to work by the looks of things.
Only thing other than that, OMG Richard Dean Anderson has put on weight. I barely recognised him at the start there.
He does look tubby dont he!!! Thats sitting on your hole behind a camera all day will do that to you.
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It isnt him is it? I barely recognised him if it is, and had to re-watch it about 5 times to see any semblance to Jack oneil :|
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he is starting to look like Gen Hammond, only voice gave it away
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I had to take a second look to be sure it was RDA.
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Didnt notice until you guys said, wow.
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Theres a continuous loop of SG1/Atlantis here (http://www.justin.tv/tvh264) if anyone is interested.
Atlantis should have gotten a couple of more seasons IMO, we never got to see more of the Pegasus Asgard.
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Theres a continuous loop of SG1/Atlantis here (http://www.justin.tv/tvh264) if anyone is interested.
Atlantis should have gotten a couple of more seasons IMO, we never got to see more of the Pegasus Asgard.
They Piddled about with characters and character story lines being on and off though or not quite there or starting to elude to something or some new plot but then just cut it off.
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So for those in the US or the TV Pirates among us what did everyone think of the first 2 parts?
For me, its certainly the darkest setting to start a new franchise, the characters are interesting, I think I would describe it as Stargate for everyone else. I think Ill be following this one.
You can certainly see the $1M an episode budget shining through. Even the Music score is very tastefull.
For the rest of us in the UK, the series starts tonight on Sky One.
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Not good Im afraid. Its like they saw the success of BSG and how it was darker in tone and informed more about society and decided theyd like a bit of the same.
Which is all well and good if you have the writers to back it up but Universe clearly doesnt, it all came across as a bit stilted and forced.
Ill give it a few more episodes before making up my mind but Im not impressed so far.
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Your not the only one comparing it to Battlestar lol. Im not quite there yet..
I dont think theres anything wrong with having this sort of tone and feeling or Survival, although its not quite that at the moment its more uncertainty, not knowing your place. It is new Franchise afterall, they can do what they want with it. Theres a few lines they have to cross before I start comparing it to BSG (IE pshycotic robots hunting them from their home) and it would certainly have to leave a few things behind from the rulebook of SG.
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think they shoulda stuck with the SG1 formula, it did work for 9 seasons after all
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I am sure they will adjust based on feedback. SG1 certanly did. They were a lot more like the movie early on but quickly changed. The TV movie that was the start of Stargate SG1 has been re-done and just released apperently. Graphics have all been re-done, the music has been re-done (They used the score from the movie a lot then) and they have re-cut it to flow better. May be worth checking out as well.
This new one:
I am interested, You guys make some valid points about it, I agree but I think it has a lot of potential. If they just tune down the BG side a bit, it should be fine.
Watch the first Star Trek Next Generation, It makes me cringe, lol.
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Just watched it. I think it has potential, but was pretty poor for a pilot.
IE, I didnt think much of the pilot, but the last 5 mins got me thinking "hmm, could be interesting". Spoiler below.
I mean, the concept of basically having timed missions to get whatever they need whilst moving on is interesting. It changes the formula a bit from the old exploration to survival and a good dose of conspiracyness thrown in.
I have to admit though, I do prefer Warehouse 13 to this.
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I am sure they will adjust based on feedback. SG1 certanly did..
Sky one had a behind the scenes after the premier, sat down with the usual producers. Was interesting to hear that he wont make decisions based on forum feedback where naturally one person will love it and someone else would have done it differently.
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I mean, the concept of basically having timed missions to get whatever they need whilst moving on is interesting.
i saw it from another pov.... I instantly thought... it;s going to be the same thing every week, week in week out... like sg1 was in the end... same thing every week :(
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I mean, the concept of basically having timed missions to get whatever they need whilst moving on is interesting.
i saw it from another pov.... I instantly thought... it;s going to be the same thing every week, week in week out... like sg1 was in the end... same thing every week :(
ALL SCI FI is just about the same thing though isnt it? I hate LOST but I love LOST but it is basically the same thing all the time.
The only thing that was fresh for me was firefly and Babylon 5 but again the latter had episodes which were basically the same thing...
It will either work with tweaks or fail. It is SG so I hope it works.
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I mean, the concept of basically having timed missions to get whatever they need whilst moving on is interesting.
i saw it from another pov.... I instantly thought... it;s going to be the same thing every week, week in week out... like sg1 was in the end... same thing every week :(
ALL SCI FI is just about the same thing though isnt it? I hate LOST but I love LOST but it is basically the same thing all the time.
The only thing that was fresh for me was firefly and Babylon 5 but again the latter had episodes which were basically the same thing...
It will either work with tweaks or fail. It is SG so I hope it works.
No, it isnt always the same thing. What an absurd thing to say.
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I mean, the concept of basically having timed missions to get whatever they need whilst moving on is interesting.
i saw it from another pov.... I instantly thought... it;s going to be the same thing every week, week in week out... like sg1 was in the end... same thing every week :(
ALL SCI FI is just about the same thing though isnt it? I hate LOST but I love LOST but it is basically the same thing all the time.
The only thing that was fresh for me was firefly and Babylon 5 but again the latter had episodes which were basically the same thing...
It will either work with tweaks or fail. It is SG so I hope it works.
No, it isnt always the same thing. What an absurd thing to say.
I mean at the route of it. There are only so many plot lines out there and each show does their own version of them all.
- The rag-tag rebel army/fleet struggles valiantly to overthrow the Evil Empire.
- The Good Guys travel through time to stop a historical Bad Guy(s)
- They Go back in time and get their name in history but do not do enough to harm it. People they work with met them when they are young and have kept it all quite till that day they come back.
- Scientists work feverishly to develop a cure for the Supervirus or a weapon to stop the Invincible Bad Guys.
- Bad Guys Capture Good guys, good Guys Escape
- New Alien or person they take in as their own, may have amazing powers and be perfect to help beat the bad guys but leaves or dies/kills themselves bust it just aint right.
- Good guys are standard in some way and survive till rescued or come up with an amazing way to escape it.
- Tech Guy fixes the unfix able
- They Find some cool new technology but it either does not work/to dangerous/gets destroyed/stolen by the enemy and then destroyed (End of show it will work though and WIN!)
- Fall in love with the hot alien
- Some Alien bug, germ, creature infects one of the main cast. The rest find the cure/solution.
- Some Semi popular cast member dies in one season
- Hospital beds!
- Secret Government Agency or Alien cult.
- Uses alien powers or cool thing to defeat the latest Enemy threat but in doing so it breaks and can never be used again.
- People connect their brains directly to computers
- A virtual reality program is activated, and the distinction between reality and the program becomes confused or indistinguishable.
- Someone kids captured and then rescued
- Earth or other planet is threatened by a natural disaster or enemy
- THE CLASSIC BORING EPISODE ABOUT THE PEOPLE JUST DOING BORING THINGS
- Kids
- Shacking up with one of the other main characters eventually or for a one off but due to some mind control or something
- Someone is taken over by something.
There is a few more but basically Every Sci-Fi Series has or would have it it was not canceled (You could class that as another one, lol) has had these episodes. Someone could probably do a big chart of TV Shows and episode numbers that are similar. (I bet a geek or two has, lol)
It is not a bad thing, I LOVE SCI-FI and I think I have given shows a shot and liked some shows people like on here do not like, but they do do the same thing at the end of the day.
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When you start looking for similarities though you start to deliberately ruin the illusion.
Admittedly though it was instantly obvious what was going to happen in the pilot when they discovered the hatch that could only be closed from the other side. One other option I found a bit weird that they overlooked though was they could have used one of the Kinos to remotely close the hatch...
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When you start looking for similarities though you start to deliberately ruin the illusion.
I know, I do not sit there and say "The Simpsons Did It" All the time, i am just saying there are the standard plot episodes EVERY sci-fi does. Not a bad thing in all cases but in terms of core plots there is not that much originality. The twists, style and everything else is what can engage you or put you off.
Admittedly though it was instantly obvious what was going to happen in the pilot when they discovered the hatch that could only be closed from the other side. One other option I found a bit weird that they overlooked though was they could have used one of the Kinos to remotely close the hatch...
I never thought of that. lash the console down and guide it to press down on the button - Problem solved. That is kind of obvious when you you actually think about it. See I do not do that when I watch this stuff :) But your right :)
What is the betting the find at some point...
1. An Ancient in stasis
2. Stargates being built or not quite finished yet.
3. Some amazing new gear on parts of the ship
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Admittedly Stargate is something Ive watched but never followed. I know the general "timeline" of major events, but I think Ive only watched a few eps from each series, mostly due to program clashes and the fact my father is usually watching absolute tosh on the TV so I miss the programs. I dont even know if the ancients have actually been encountered in any of the other series.
About the only gear I can think of atm will be the medical bay, which Id imagine will make up for the lack of doctors by being able to do major surgeries etc (regrow limbs?) seeing as with only 1 medic theyre pretty shafted imo.
Spoilers below maybe.
I think the main plotlines will be the conspiracy, they only briefly touched on the fact that the "enemy" knew of the project. Could go one of two ways, either there is no conspiracy and simply the energy usage etc triggered some alarm that brought the enemy to the planet, OR, something along the lines of those Ancient communications devices, just because they have 5, doesnt mean that the enemy has been using one all along to guide the actions of one of the people on board. Could be that Rush is currently under control and at some point theyll figure it out and "Release him" etc.
The filler episodes will focus on getting food and fixing up the ship to a stable condition. Which will no doubt involve going off-world (off-ship?) and making some decisions along the lines of depriving other races/civilisations of their resrouces, the resources being some form of idol for a civilisation, walking into a middle of a war between two sides etc.
Im guessing they wont have the whole "Allies" side of things as if the ship is travelling at FTL and only dropping out for supplies it would be logical that once the away teams return, theyll be out of range of the planet they just came from. Of course this doesnt mean to say that wherever they are there are other races that have FTL travel and can catch up etc. I think itd water down the potential of the show somewhat if they suddenly discover a stargate that has "no range" enabling them to go wherever they want etc. Itd just turn it into a slightly grittier version of Atlantis with the base on a ship rather than Atlantis, rather than making the most of a fresh start.
Main thing I want to know is who attacked the planet. Not really following the series that closely I didnt know whether the ships were Gouald or a new race/class of ships?!
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I think the main plotlines will be the conspiracy, they only briefly touched on the fact that the "enemy" knew of the project. Could go one of two ways, either there is no conspiracy and simply the energy usage etc triggered some alarm that brought the enemy to the planet, OR, something along the lines of those Ancient communications devices, just because they have 5, doesnt mean that the enemy has been using one all along to guide the actions of one of the people on board. Could be that Rush is currently under control and at some point theyll figure it out and "Release him" etc.
Lucian (spelling?) Alliance was the Enemy they thought were attacking and probably is. They go after tech and hate the Humans and just a rogue group (all be it massive) of people who formed from the fall of the Goauld. To me it looked to be just something to use to explain why they went on the ship and cant get back more then anything else.
The filler episodes will focus on getting food and fixing up the ship to a stable condition. Which will no doubt involve going off-world (off-ship?) and making some decisions along the lines of depriving other races/civilisations of their resrouces, the resources being some form of idol for a civilisation, walking into a middle of a war between two sides etc.
Maybe, It will all be about survival.
Im guessing they wont have the whole "Allies" side of things as if the ship is travelling at FTL and only dropping out for supplies it would be logical that once the away teams return, theyll be out of range of the planet they just came from. Of course this doesnt mean to say that wherever they are there are other races that have FTL travel and can catch up etc. I think itd water down the potential of the show somewhat if they suddenly discover a stargate that has "no range" enabling them to go wherever they want etc. Itd just turn it into a slightly grittier version of Atlantis with the base on a ship rather than Atlantis, rather than making the most of a fresh start.
True, Even more limited numbers of people and equipment then Atlantis but it has similar elements. I am sure they will make friends who will live on the ship with them. (big enough) With the Ship at full power I bet they get to dial At least Atlantis. Samantha Carter and others are supposed to make cameo Roles now and again.
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Main thing I want to know is who attacked the planet. Not really following the series that closely I didnt know whether the ships were Gouald or a new race/class of ships?!
http://stargate.wikia.com/wiki/Lucian_Alliance
I doubt theyll be seen again in SG:U, rumour is that Rush is looking for some kind of time travel technology onboard the Destiny to bring back/save his wife who died of cancer:
(http://i35.tinypic.com/2e1u91y.jpg)
Thats why he was so willing to risk the lives of everyone on the base by dialling the ninth chevron instead of Earth/The Alpha Site.
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Admittedly though it was instantly obvious what was going to happen in the pilot when they discovered the hatch that could only be closed from the other side. One other option I found a bit weird that they overlooked though was they could have used one of the Kinos to remotely close the hatch...
I never thought of that. lash the console down and guide it to press down on the button - Problem solved. That is kind of obvious when you you actually think about it. See I do not do that when I watch this stuff :) But your right :)
Even worse, they could have gone for the obvious: theres a hole, stick something in/over it and seal it. I came up with this within seconds of them saying the only way to close the hatch was to be on the wrong side. A simple drop weight activated by a string would press the button. There are probably a few other methods of doing it too. This was one of the most stupid examples of forcing the script where the writers wanted to go that Ive ever seen.
Secondly the hatch is stuck open, its been like that for thousand, probably millions, of years, How come there is any atmosphere in the ship at all?
Thirdly the air filters, how have they become covered in what I assume is carbon when there isnt anyone on board? These systems would be shut down until needed.
The ship is bound to be damaged en route, and systems are inevitably going to break down, so why havent the automatic repair systems kicked in?
They say the ship has been damaged in a battle, but what proof is there of this? How was the ship caught? Perhaps this will be answered sometime.
The plot so far seems even more leaky than the ship.
/puts script dissection kit away.
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Admittedly I think the logic was something to do with a failsafe mechanism, where someone HAD to be inside the ship for the door to close, otherwise it remained open, ALA emergency escape pod, hatch is open for quick access etc.
However the whole "patch the hole up" idea is true, though I guess if they only have a few hours left and no materials/equipment this would be difficult?
As to the atmosphere, I got the impression from the start segment, that the ship was powering up when the gate was activated, and current lack of atmosphere was a result of the damage and old equipment not being able to cope, as opposed to it leaking out over time. This is a bit tricky though, given the state of the scrubbers. I guess though they could easily write something in along the lines of some kind of parasite/bacteria got aboard due to the damage which has eaten through the scrubber etc.
Maybe the automatic repair systems were damaged and the ancients didnt think to include an automatic automatic repair repairer?
I too wondered about the battle damage. Only thing I could think of was if the ship had dropped out of hyperspace at some point?
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tought this was boring as hell lol , time to look for something else to do :)
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Admittedly I think the logic was something to do with a failsafe mechanism, where someone HAD to be inside the ship for the door to close, otherwise it remained open, ALA emergency escape pod, hatch is open for quick access etc.
However the whole "patch the hole up" idea is true, though I guess if they only have a few hours left and no materials/equipment this would be difficult?
they chucked through a whole load of cases, tear one or more up and put that over the hole, plug gaps with cloth and use anything gunky to seal it. Total time 20 minutes, they spent much longer than that deciding on the course of action and then someone getting around to doing it. On the Apollo space missions it was possible for the crew accidentally poke their fingers through the side of the lander by accident, there had to be some way of fixing that. It should be one of the basics of training, how to stop an air leak in an emergency.
I read a moon based short story about 3 people stuck in a section of tunnel with a leak, but they only have 1 airtight emergency suit. one of them plastered some gunk on the leak, dropped his trousers and stuck his bum on it... Second made sure he stayed in place as long as possible and then replaced him when he collapsed, third went for help. OK this leak was bigger, but they had stuff that could do it.
I think that killing off Senator Christopher McDonald might have been a big mistake, his character could have enhanced the storyline with a military, political and scientific split.
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Surely it depends on the nature of the hole/shield?
Could be that the shield prevented anything from being attached to the hull? Or maybe the Ancients materials are such that human made adhesives do not bond to their metals etc?
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Might be, but did they try? Someone committing suicide should be the very last option or someone grabbing the idea and just going for it. What would hold it there would simply be suction, 1 atmosphere on something and it can be really difficult, if not effectively impossible, to remove.
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Question is though, if the energy shield thing failed, how good would their bodge repair be. As it was it was the atmosphere was only gushing through, not instantaneous decompression. Maybe they could have figured the shield wouldnt hold permanently so the best course of action would be to get the airlock doors sealed.
The time travel thing would be interesting. The way rush is acting you could argue hes had a visitation from his future self and so figures that he cant die, having survived at least long enough to time travel back...
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Explosive decompression will rip an aircraft apart, but we arent talking about that here. You put in a repair that wont suck out and stops any air leak. Once that is done the air on the far side will leak away quickly and the fix will be held in place. They are talking about making sections of the International Space station out of inflatable plastic sections, like a sealed bouncy castle and filling the walls with foam. Repair doesnt have to be permanent, just good enough to last until they can repair the door or they think of another solution.
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There must be EVA suits in the ship someone - Id put money on them finding some later on in the series.
Then you just close the shuttle door, and exit the hole with the EVA suit on, then walk around the ship to the obersvation dome thats also busted, climb in there and wait to be let in though the door they managed to open at the start of the episode.
:tinhat:
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Ep4 - Rushs crazyness is too extreme now and just pissing me off, dont care if they want to say he was tired or lack of caffine... it was just annoying.
Oh and there new problem at the end of the episode, my guess is its meant to the heading in that direction to use the sun as a way to get some power instead of heading towards their death. Wouldnt be surprised if the whole next episode is them trying to avoid it and then right at the last minute "Oh wait a minute guys, this is what the ship wants to do!!!!"
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^^^ exactly..... predictable crap :(
theyll probably have some other problems because of it, something damaged so theyll all be tost etc.. and they have to sort something out/fix it quick...
also, what about that little ship that was piggy bakcing on there ship and flew off right at the end of one of the last episodes ?
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well, i quite like it and am looking forward to the next episode
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Oh im not saying I dont like it, its just that Rush pissed me off that episode and the story idea seems a bit to obvious.
Will prob sort it out in time.
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i think most TV Series these days are overly predictable, maybe theyre just dumming down, or weve seen similar storylines before
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i think most TV Series these days are overly predictable, maybe theyre just dumming down, or weve seen similar storylines before
I call it "Dan Brown Syndrome" make a shocking story where no one in the story can see the blatantly obvious solution and the person reading/watching feels clever. It is dumbing down, but for people who like very intricate complicated ideas this just gets repetitive and boring.
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I dont think theres that much more that can be done that hasnt been done before. Its like MMORPGs, the quests will still end up being kill xx or collect xx or go to xxx. Its just the setting and characters/objects that change. There are only so many variations of the different conceivable scenarios, and I think theyve all been done.
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Yeah, its either going to collect Hydrogen from the sun or get enough solar power to divert to one of the planets, so they can use the shuttle to get what they need.
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Well was exactly as we predicted (obviously) didnt think much of this episode, hoping for better next week :P
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Pretty....
(http://www.gateworld.net/gallery/albums/uni_season1/105-Light/screencaps/sgu_105_0544.jpg)
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OH GOD OH GOD WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE AND YOU ARE ALREADY f**kING THE GOOD LOOKING MILITARY GUY!!!!
Oh wait we are in the star, its pretty and we are still alive... and you are still f**king the military guy. Lose lose for the math geek!
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Yeah, I thought the one thing that didnt spoil it was that the cute chick didnt instantly go for the handsome buff guy.
Yeah that didnt last long did it.
Pretty much makes the rest of the thing a bit nulled as there isnt exactly a large extensive cast and I really cant see a love triangle forming without the eventual death of the military guy... which again removes one of the main characters a bit fast.
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That or he does something to outcast himself? He could lose his rag at some point and beat the crap out of her, geek-boy coming to the rescue, and hey presto, the balance is restored!
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That is possible, but I just cant see them taking his character that way, he is the only mentally stable officer on the thing. His commander is half dead and one of his subordinates is a psychopath.
I just feel the writers are slowly pushing themself into a corner trying to write stuff to be too edgy and then completely missing the obvious basic plot lines.
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Stable? He decided to walk off into a desert, and then hallucinated about a drunkard priest from dehydration :D
Each week I decide I CBA to watch it, and then end up watching it when it comes on >< I still prefer Warehouse 13. It may be kiddy-ish, but its fun and entertaining. The only thing I didnt like is how it seems between episode 1 and 2 the two main characters went from hating each other to (not so) secretly loving each other.
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the showkinda feels like its been a pitch that has had the Stargate brand tacked on by an exec to sell it to an existing fan base, it doents have any of the SG traits, while its not terrible it feels a bit like enterprise did compared to normal star trek.
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another crap epp :(
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another crap epp :(
I liked it, even though it was a bit predictable. Guy falls in crevasse and gets saved at the very last minute...
Hopefully that senators daughter dies though, shes just a terrible character played by an even worse actor.
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Also, Robert Carlyle has more acting talent in his left pinky finger than the rest of the cast combined.
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Indeed, seems to me like theyre hoping he will drag them all up to his standard.
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The problem is, he is having to overact a bit to try and get them going. He doesnt really have anyone to play off when acting, the closest he has got is the young lad who isnt excessively bad. But yes, some of the others are appauling.
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Also, Robert Carlyle has more acting talent in his left pinky finger than the rest of the cast combined.
i cant stand him , this is getting worse and i stopped watching it
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Was going to say, with all the negative opinions, at what point do you abandon all hope and stop watching?
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Me and a mate were talking about it and end of the day we are only really watching it because there isnt much else when it comes to space sci-fi at the moment
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Perhaps you should stop taking the series so seriously which is the biggest mistake you make in Sci-Fi and just enjoy it as it is meant as enternainment.
Carlyle is in no doubt a strong actor and I can see why they needed someone like him for such complex mysterious role. Carlyle has the ability as the producers put it, to make dislikeable things likeable.
I dont think the other actors are bad by any means, but they are a relatively fresh cast of unkown actors and it takes time for things to gel. It can quite easily look like Carlyle is carrying them when the role is complex. Greare seemed to be very straight forward at first glance but there seems to be more to all of them as we get to know them.
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Also, Robert Carlyle has more acting talent in his left pinky finger than the rest of the cast combined.
Im starting to think that a cardboard cutout of Robert Carlyle would have more acting talent in its left pinky than the rest of the cast combined...
Actually that might be the problem, he shines so brightly that the rest of them hardly get a chance to be noticed.
Perhaps you should stop taking the series so seriously which is the biggest mistake you make in Sci-Fi and just enjoy it as it is meant as enternainment.
There is no excuse for badly thought out scripts. Sci-fi has science attached to the begining and should be rock solid, even when dealing with fantasy issues.
I do enjoy programmes as entertainment, but there should be more.
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OH GOD OH GOD WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE AND YOU ARE ALREADY f**kING THE GOOD LOOKING MILITARY GUY!!!!
Oh wait we are in the star, its pretty and we are still alive... and you are still f**king the military guy. Lose lose for the math geek!
Alternatives, the ship could have been fitted with a Bussard ram scoop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_scoop) or just went into the oort cloud and grabbed a few protocomets. Of course that wouldnt have been as exciting.
Then again you know they are going to be back next episode so you already know that theyll survive. There arent that many of them either so they cant afford to lose more than one or two people an episode.
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Watched the first two episodes a week or so ago and just caught up to episode 6 yesterday and Im really not getting into this, I love SG and SG Atlantis but Im going to give this two more episodes before I call it a right off...
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is it just me or is this getting worse ep by ep ? , they seem to be copying bits from the remake of bsg if you ask me they changing it alittle
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I watched last weeks flying into the sun ep yesterday and actually didnt mind it so much. Maybe Im starting to expect such bad things its looking up ><
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Im starting to wonder if they bought a pile of old Emmerdale scripts and tarted them up.
The insect swarm being particularly bad. What the hell did they do with all that water? :shrug:
Chucking the main swarm onto a frozen world wont help, there will almost inevitably be some left on board the ship.
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Kinda curious to see if the insect swarm is a recurring thing for the series tbh. Especially considering the bit near the end of the ep with the commander dude walking off like that, and the insects looking at the guy on the planet. Whether theyre good/bad/neutral is another matter.
If a lifeform was silicon based could it have properties like silica gel and be uber absorbant?
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It could but water isnt compressable, for each litre of water your bugs would have to expand by the same volume. If they drank 1000 litres they would have an additional volume of 1000 litres.
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Considering the whole wormhole/sci-fi thing, is it not feasible that its pretty easy to come up with an answer, such as each of the bugs being a mini-portal/wormhole to another universe and they literally sucked the water through? Who knows :D
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Considering the whole wormhole/sci-fi thing, is it not feasible that its pretty easy to come up with an answer, such as each of the bugs being a mini-portal/wormhole to another universe and they literally sucked the water through? Who knows :D
Its Nanites*. Its always Nanites*. :P
*Lupus.
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Boring Ep. this week. What was with that bit in the nightclub? Its more like teen SG1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37TtMzeV-9I).
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why did they feel the need to cancel atlantis and make this ? , i am finding this series boring as h*** :disappointed:
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The writers and producers of this show need a good slap! “Ohh let’s make it all edgy like BSG!!!” you can see them saying in the production meeting! ...then employ a 12 year old to write it!
This will be truly direr if it gets a second series when they cut the budget! ...as they always do on Sci-Fi! Hell it’s not even a good way to fill ¾ of an hour on a Sat morning waiting for the hangover to pass with a few coffees! very disappointed!
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oh dear, for shame those Sci-Fi producers!
Im currently methodically watching the Atlantis re-runs atm - Ill watch SG-U either when the series ends, or they stop the current Atlantis re-run. So I can sit through the entire SG-U series and watch my brain melt and puddle around my feet if all your comments are anything to go by.
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i think its just dissapointing that theyve done f**k all with a half decent storyline, when they couldve done something decent.
Dont get me wrong itll never be excellent, but it coulda been entertaining at least. What theyve achieved is bugger all at the moment
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Heh there isnt many things that everyone on here agrees on completely but how disappointing SGU is seems to be one fo them.
Personally I would of liked them to focus on the ship exploration and dealing with those sorts of problems instead of the silly sh*t they are doing atm.
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maybe theyre saving it up for later? it kinda seems silly to leave it for later tho. surely the first thing youd do on being in that situation is to consolidate, and find out what youve got and what you dont
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maybe theyre saving it up for later? it kinda seems silly to leave it for later tho. surely the first thing youd do on being in that situation is to consolidate, and find out what youve got and what you dont
If you had a properly selected and trained crew, yes.
But theyve chosen a Voyager (ST) scenario, and added the extra twist of being crewed by a bunch of grunts, VIPs, brains and misfits.
Misfits for random crap,
brains to keep the sci-fi interesting
grunts to fight aliens
VIPs to cause problems and add emotional stress
and Ive only seen the 1st Episode - So Tell me Im wrong? or are they painting sci-fi by numbers with big wax crayons? :disappointed:
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maybe theyre saving it up for later? it kinda seems silly to leave it for later tho. surely the first thing youd do on being in that situation is to consolidate, and find out what youve got and what you dont
If you had a properly selected and trained crew, yes.
But theyve chosen a Voyager (ST) scenario, and added the extra twist of being crewed by a bunch of grunts, VIPs, brains and misfits.
Misfits for random crap,
brains to keep the sci-fi interesting
grunts to fight aliens
VIPs to cause problems and add emotional stress
and Ive only seen the 1st Episode - So Tell me Im wrong? or are they painting sci-fi by numbers with big wax crayons? :disappointed:
So far theres been quite a lack in the alien fighting side of things. Only things being the bugs. The didnt stop some of the grunts from making flamethrowers in a bid to be all aggressive.
I think one of the issues is that its trying to be a bit like 24, in the short time frame aspect, but doesnt make this as obvious as need be. It certainly doesnt seem like they have only been on the ship for the 48-72 hours or so that I think they have been? Theyve ony referenced a couple of times how some of the crew have pretty much been going since they arrived etc.
Maybe the series would be better watched in one go (if you could stomach it) so that the timeframe is more noticeable? I get the impression that the formula will be that the first season is them aestablishing themselves on the destiny, and if it picks up for a 2nd season maybe a bit more exploration etc.
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i think theyre thinking too far ahead and are leaving "the good stuff" til later in the season or maybe even the 2nd season. When what is really happening is people are not watching it because its been boring and dismal, and then ratings are going to drop and its going to be cancelled
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I admit I found it a bit odd on the pilot episode, at the start the main character actor dude did come across as pretty much begging the viewer to watch the whole series. It really did strike me as odd, thinking "Does he think its bad but redeems it near the end or something?"
He pretty much said something along the lines of "Please please please watch it through to the end, you wont be disappointed" or something like that in the crazy mad scientist persona :/
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well after seeing only 20 min of this weeks ep i turned over and watched ghost hunters instead
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This weeks (Ep. 8 ) was actually pretty good.
Most of the main cast die not just once, but twice!
"Leeets dooo the tiiiime warrrrp aaaagaaaiiin..." :P
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Im downloading weekly out of habit but cant bring myself to actually watch them at the moment. Got 2 eps to catch up with atm
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This weeks episode was much better.
SG is always good when theyre in a familiar forest setting. :)
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The bit where he has sex with his wife (ex?) but while in posession of someone elses body might cause some ethical issues.
What if he had of gone with half a dozen of the most pox ridden prostitutes he could find? :gag:
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Good point, didnt think about that.
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Well I was wondering about the girl who got completely wrecked in someone elses body. Imagine if you got killed, severely injured etc.
Seems a bit dodgy to just let them run around with someone elses body unaccompanied.
The thing that most worries me it, I cannot think of a single one of their character names. After a good few episodes that is pretty bad.
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I thought it was sh*t. Im really losing faith in this, and if it doesnt pick up soon im gonna pack it in
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it is sh*t, Id have quite watching already if it wasnt for the name of it..... :(
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Well I was wondering about the girl who got completely wrecked in someone elses body. Imagine if you got killed, severely injured etc.
Seems a bit dodgy to just let them run around with someone elses body unaccompanied.
The thing that most worries me it, I cannot think of a single one of their character names. After a good few episodes that is pretty bad.
I thought they mentioned in an ep that if one of them dies they both do?
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Lezzers in the latest ep
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Lezzers in the latest ep
why do the writers feel the need to do this ? , surely they could have put something more along the lines of sg1 or atlantis
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it is sh*t, Id have quite watching already if it wasnt for the name of it..... :(
As well as watching this Im also watching the BBC2 series Defying Gravity. This has far less action but is somehow dramatically far better, at least IMO.
Could they be trying too hard? :shrug:
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it is sh*t, Id have quite watching already if it wasnt for the name of it..... :(
As well as watching this Im also watching the BBC2 series Defying Gravity. This has far less action but is somehow dramatically far better, at least IMO.
Could they be trying too hard? :shrug:
I tried watching Defying Gravity, thought it was bloody awful, just a rather pale imitation of Virtuality (shame they never turned the pilot into a full series).. At least Stargate Universe was making a bit of an effort even if it didnt come across all that well.
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Did I miss something? the jungle ep ended kinda on what I assumed to be the promise of a 2-parter, nothing was resolved whatsoever. And then the latest ep theyre carrying on as if it never happened?
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Havent seen the latest but I thought it looked like a two parter, but, the programmes do seem to be better integrated than most into a single time line rather than interchangeable episodes.
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I did check the sky guide as I hadnt deleted the last 2 eps from Sky+. Supposedly havent missed any episodes between the end of the jungle ep and the beginning of this one. If they decided to say "the message left at the end of the jungle ep explained everything and they solved their problem, the end" that really is one of the biggest cop-outs yet.
And what with all the time travel surely theyd have received that message anyway and the entire episode shouldnt have happened the way it did...?
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Did I miss something? the jungle ep ended kinda on what I assumed to be the promise of a 2-parter, nothing was resolved whatsoever. And then the latest ep theyre carrying on as if it never happened?
Whats the point in doing more, theyve already established the existance of a time vortex sending people back in time through the gate.
They are all infected with a deadly bug
There is a cure from the venom of a deadly animal
The solider boy gave them the facts and instructions, simples.
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So it was a cakewalk going to the planet, finding the animals (how did they even know what he was talking about, he didnt describe them/where to find them) and extracting the anti-venom from it?
On the one hand I agree, with this time loop thing, they could/should have exploited it, using the time difference to do some research, documenting it, and then sending it back. That way they could have had a few days/10 days/100 days of research done and documented without using any resources.
But that would have been fairly boring viewing.
But then again the whole process of getting the animals etc could have been done through another episode, they could have exploited that storyline a bit more. As it is it felt a bit like they got bored of the story or ran out of time.money for that set and had to finish things off.
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Did I miss something? the jungle ep ended kinda on what I assumed to be the promise of a 2-parter, nothing was resolved whatsoever. And then the latest ep theyre carrying on as if it never happened?
Webisode. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vte7LMnYV10)
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Just finished watching the final ep of the season today. Its a shame as it ended quite strongly I feel, shame about some of the bits on the way though. Ill at least want to continue watching to see what kind of cliche they use to get out of the pickle theyre in.