Sam, thats about par for all the superhero films.

Yeah I love Nolan.
And loved this film.

But not the best film of all time or anything.

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Not only was he a genius, according to nexus, but he also is a pretty good fighter. He manages to take on that guy in the cell, the cop who was gonna beat him up. Dunno about you, but my money would have been on the cop.

Plus he somehow manages to find an army of criminals to continually work for him.

It was all a bit silly really.

Which is the character, he is not strong but again he is smart so he compensates with good fighting skill and in the true joker character so again perfect in that regard in this film.
This joker is the closest portrayed in the decent comics of the series.

What do you define as the decent comics? Because the portrayal of the Joker varies wildly from writer to writer; Ive never really been into the Batman comics that much but some have him as physically weak and very frail, and others have him standing toe to toe with Batman in a fight. Grant Morrison even had the character scripted as being driven insane by an extra-sensory perception as a way to explain both his super-villainy and insanity.

tbh, i didnt think the joker/Ledger was "that" good

he was pretty good... but not as good as everyone is making out !


"omg hes dead, he was awsome in his last film you know...."

If he was alive I would still rate it..

Question - if you did not know it was ledger would you know it was him from watching the movie?

Ive held back from really putting thoughts to text on this yet... but Ive seen it twice now at the cinema and feel it is now an appropriate time for me to comment.

Now, first off, it really is an excellent film, that manages to be a gripping success for the full 2 and so hours your arse is in the seat, which is a great note to start on as it really shows the quality of the film and how well it has been put together. The plot isnt as complicated as has been made out, although I think the dialogue could have been a bit neater as I think some of it felt a little too overscripted and for some scenes it was only on the second viewing that I really picked up what was being said.

The gritty voice of Batman is a bit amusing; its also pretty obvious why he has the voice to help intimidate and mask the fact that hes Bruce Wayne.

Bales performance naturally was as good as you would expect, I think hes a great actor. Ledger was also really on form, definitely the performance of his career. There was only a few moments where I saw Ledger and not the Joker. He was an infinitely better villain than the hammed performance of Liam Neeson in the first film, who I found hard to really take as seriously in his role. I dont care for Maggie Gyllenhaal at all so didnt really rate her performance, other than bring on par given her less substantial screentime. Tits or GTFO

Still, as good as it is, it wasnt the best film ever, masterpiece, etc. Maybe I expected too much or had it overhyped? Its definitely one I could sit and watch again simply because its so involving and goes above the simple action film to something with much more depth, making it a great film. For me, Wall-E is still my overall film of the year so far - and Im seeing that again tomorrow to reinforce that fact.

       

A solid 4 w00ts, not quite a 5 for me, but still a must see film for anyone, not just action/blockbuster fans.

For me, Wall-E is still my overall film of the year so far - and Im seeing that again tomorrow to reinforce that fact.

Id agree with that despite watching Dark Knight twice, I think Wall-E is a masterpiece.  Its not to say that Dark Knight is a poor film, its just Wall-E is that good in my opinion.  

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Nexus, no, no we didnt.  It was plainly obvious at the Odeon at Printworks in Manchester.  The bottom part of the screen is way below the hand rail at the front of the auditorium and when the IMAX image was being projected you could see the hand rail silhouetted whereas when it was 35mm image it was above the hand rail so no silhouette.  We did wonder who the f**k would bring a baby in to watch it though.  5 minutes in WARGH! WARGH! WARGH! WARGH! thankfully the baby was quiet for the remainder of the film.

The people sitting next to my friend must have been the bluntest tools in the toolbox.  HONG KONG! IM FLYING BACK TO HONG KONG! HONG KONG! HES GONE TO HONG KONG! HONG KONG! ILL GET HIM FROM HONG KONG! HONG KONG! Most distinctive skyline in the world now that the 2 towers are gone.  "Where are they now???"  

Oh, this is an interesting read into the challenges faced by the VFX company tasked with creating the 8K resolution shots for the movie.  193MB per frame...
http://www.studiodaily.com/filmandvideo/currentissue/9703.html

hmm, shame about your IMAX, that sucks. The one in Auckland Sky City is totally massive with nothing in the way, the place is so big it has several ushers with glow sticks and more, seat room is really good as standard as well.