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Reply #15 on: November 18, 2007, 20:50:37 PM
Nope.

Goes lookin...

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Reply #16 on: November 18, 2007, 21:07:09 PM
Hnnngggggg! Options.  Overloading.  Brain.   :shock:

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Reply #17 on: November 18, 2007, 23:12:45 PM
Komplett have a good options pack on their Gaming machines.
Mobo,s that support Penryn & dual GPU,s will be the Nividia 680I & the
Intel X38 & X48 chipsets.  
Who the smeg is Dwayne Dibbley ?

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Reply #18 on: November 18, 2007, 23:16:10 PM
^ Thanks, Ill take a shufty. :)

Meanwhile, what about this MESH loadout...

Elite Quad Storm Pro

Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Extreme QX6850 Quad Core Processor(3.0GHz,8MB Cache,1333MHz)
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium Edition (pffft - will install XP)
Aluminium ATX Midi Tower + 1000W PSU
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - Intel® 975X Chipset- Core™ 2 Duo - ATX
4GB DDR2 667MHz Memory -( 2x 2GB ) (Will it be ok with just the one stick?)
1TB (2x 500GB) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
LightScribe Super Format 18x Dual Layer DVD Writer +R/-R/RW/RAM
512MB ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound Card
Logitech S500 - 5.1 Speakers with Subwoofer

£1745...  :?

Still not perfect - theres no room for manoeuvre on the HDs or RAM. :(

 

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Reply #19 on: November 18, 2007, 23:25:10 PM
Do you really NEED 1TB of space.

The larger the disks they slower the seek times (in general)

If you want high performance then get some small SAS drives to hold you apps/games on then some big ATAs for music/videos/etc..


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Reply #20 on: November 18, 2007, 23:35:21 PM
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^ Thanks, Ill take a shufty. :)

Meanwhile, what about this MESH loadout...

Elite Quad Storm Pro

Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Extreme QX6850 Quad Core Processor(3.0GHz,8MB Cache,1333MHz)
Genuine Windows Vista™ Home Premium Edition (pffft - will install XP)
Aluminium ATX Midi Tower + 1000W PSU
ASUS P5W DH Deluxe - Intel® 975X Chipset- Core™ 2 Duo - ATX
4GB DDR2 667MHz Memory -( 2x 2GB ) (Will it be ok with just the one stick?)
1TB (2x 500GB) Serial ATA Hard Drive with 16MB Buffer
LightScribe Super Format 18x Dual Layer DVD Writer +R/-R/RW/RAM
512MB ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Sound Card
Logitech S500 - 5.1 Speakers with Subwoofer

£1745...  :?

Still not perfect - theres no room for manoeuvre on the HDs or RAM. :(

 


Better with 2 sticks, and if you are thinking ATi, then the 3870 is about the same horsepoweer than 2900Xt, while being anything up to £100 cheaper.  

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Reply #21 on: November 18, 2007, 23:39:44 PM
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Do you really NEED 1TB of space.

Nope! :) 200Gb for C:\ and 500Gb for D:\ is amplage.

Heres the Komplett loadout.

To be honest, Im clutching at straws doing this and Im probably throwing money at it because I dont want to regret it in a years time.

Gigabyte 3D Aurora GZ-FSCA1-AN Black
Thermaltake Toughpower 850W, Modular,
MSI P6N Diamond, nForce-680i SLI, ATX,
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6700 2.67GHz
Corsair TWIN2X 6400C4DHX DDR2, 2048MB
Point of View GeForce 8800GTX 768MB,
Western Digital Raptor X 150GB SATA
Western Digital Caviar GP 750GB SATA2
Plextor DVD±RW burner, PX-810SA, SATA,
Creative SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio

£1641.66

Ok, heres a deal - can someone spec me up some similar machines for DELL, MESH, Komplett and Scan?

To reit; I need it for Photoshop/Corel (bigass files) but I also want it to stroll through up to date games and have a little future-proofing too. :)

I do not need/want a monitor (but are the connections still the same these days?), printer, keyboard, mouse or trivial items.  May go for a nice set o speakers though.

Storage-wise 200Gb for C:\ and 500Gb for D:\ is fine - unless you can convince me that a RAID array (whatever that is) is worth going for.

OS = Win XP Pro (Self install - purchase not needed)

Oh and budget is £1650 tops inc VAT

The one I pick (or like best if I dont buy) gets a crisp tenner via PayPal. :)...


 




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Reply #22 on: November 19, 2007, 00:25:28 AM
How much of a rush are you in to buy? Intels releasing a boat load of 45nm chips in January whichll run much cooler (even tho they are already impressive on this front) and feature a rather nutty 12Mb L2 cache.


If youre buying today heres what Id go for....

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (4x2.4GHz, 8Mb Cache, 1066FSB) - £156
Mobo thatll let you have 2x graphics cards in SLI/Crossfire - £150
2 x 2Gb matched pair, so 4x1Gb DDR2-800 - might as well, its so cheap - Corsair for example - £82 (especially if youre using big media files)
Decent HSF - £35 (Zalman ?)
Seasonic PSU - £92
Case (depends what you like) - £100-150

Thats your core system at about £615-665. Then you add...

Either
2 x Nivida 8800GT in SLI for £360
OR
2 x ATI Radeon HD 3870 for £300

Auzentech HDA X-Plosion sound card with DTS Connect - £61
3x Western Digital 500Gb drives in RAID-5 - £195
Mouse/keyboard bundle - £25
Card reader - £15

This brings you up to £1215-1285...

If you want a normal DVD Writer - £20
DVD Writer + BluRay read - £95




£1600 is a bit mad for a PC these days..... its late and my brains switching off as I have work tomorrow so I havent gone into complete detail but you could build a monster for that much.

Only benefit for going with Dell/Mesh etc is warranty. Youll get boat loads more if you build yourself or get someone to put it together for you.

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Reply #23 on: November 19, 2007, 00:38:44 AM
Western Digital Raptor X 150GB SATA

- Are these worth the money?

£100 for 150gb + £120 for a 750gb...


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I did cheap but fast, which is what youd get from your average builder;

Intel Core 2 Extreme Quad QX6850 3GHz £506.58
EVGA 8800GTX 768MB £330.00
Creative SoundBlaster X-Fi Xtreme Music OEM  £41.69 (Id use the on-board instead tbh)
Pioneer DVR-112DBK £14.75
Extra Value Gold 600W 12cm Fan Silent PSU  £19.35*
Western Digital WD7500AAKS 750GB SATA II Hard Drive 7200rpm 16MB Cache £99.99
ECS 945GCT-M/1333 £25.33*
2x Corsair 2GB = £110.62
2x Seagate ST3160815AS 160GB = £56.76

Might need a little tweaking but that lot is £1430inc

(Itll be worth £300 this time next year :p )


edit: Personally Id go dual core, 2gb memory, few hdds and a £200 gfx card. I built some 4gb quad core CAD systems and some 2gb dual core systems a while back. Only real world difference was the price tag.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

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Reply #24 on: November 19, 2007, 00:45:17 AM
mmm, for playing about with the big pics... why not go with 5gig of ram and switch to XP64bit ?  its basically the same as running 32bit now :)

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Reply #25 on: November 19, 2007, 02:28:50 AM
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mmm, for playing about with the big pics... why not go with 5gig of ram and switch to XP64bit ?  its basically the same as running 32bit now :)

Isnt there issues with compatability?

Hmm, food for thought.  Not mega-desparate for a new system, I guess it could wait until Jan but new stuff = big prices (I know that much!).

Do these companies do builds from the ground-up?

Howzabout here?  Anyone do builds? Could be worth a few bux if I save bigtime on a new system. :)

Brain shutting down now, too.

Later! :)
 

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Reply #26 on: November 19, 2007, 02:33:53 AM
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Isnt there issues with compatability?  


only with older stuff, i.e. stuff written for win98.  Ive not yet found something written after 2002 that doesnt run.  

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Reply #27 on: November 19, 2007, 02:41:48 AM
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Howzabout here?  Anyone do builds? Could be worth a few bux if I save bigtime on a new system. :)

 


Anyone here charge you less than £300 fee for that and they aint built enough to know what a pain in the arse it is :D

Novatech do custom builds iirc. I wouldnt recommend them but I wouldnt unrecommend them. At least theyll assemble components for you. iirc.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

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Reply #28 on: November 19, 2007, 02:47:26 AM
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Anyone here charge you less than £300 fee for that and they aint built enough to know what a pain in the arse it is :D


depends, if it was a mate I would be charging about £100 for that build, if i didnt know them probably about the £150 mark.  *shrug* why charge the same as the shops?  all that does is send people off to use the computer hsop rather than you.

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Reply #29 on: November 19, 2007, 02:48:48 AM
Thats not a bad thing if youve got mates like mine. I do 20% min now to cover 2 days worth of building/testing and handling rmas or software issues.
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

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