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Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on April 11, 2008, 00:29:00 AM
Since i got chatting with poison about this i thought i would make an actual post about this mmo in development.

The main european site: http://www.war-europe.com/#?lang=en

The game is currently in development with a release later this year. Based on the warhammer universe from Games Workshop it aims to bring players into a world of conflict and politics on and epic scale.

Possibly the most interesting MMO currently in development especially given the developer is Mythic of "Dark Age of Camelot" fame.

They are currently inviting people to take part in the closed beta though no announcement of when or who will qualify.

You can also take part in the public beta and get head start in game upon release if you buy the collectors edition. (only though play (http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/5310527/-/Product.html?searchstring=warhammer+online&searchsource=0))


I cant wait for this, even though i havent been a Games Workshop fan for a few years. Given the size of the universe, background and the developer this has the opportunity to be amazing.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on April 11, 2008, 00:39:06 AM
Only thing that has put me off is the fact that the Collectors Edition box is 60 quid! Thats with one months subs included I know but thats still a lot of money for a game that you are just going to install once. Still yes I have it on pre-order ;)

Its going to put pressure on Uni lol!

Any game footage to look at yet? As I know they are still under Disclosure Agreements with current Beta testers... :(
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Quixoticish on April 11, 2008, 00:46:12 AM
There are already far to many Elves/Orcs/Goblins high fantasy MMOs out there for me to be even remotely interested in this. If it were 40K rather than standard Warhammer it would be a different story but I think theyre coming into the market too late with nothing new to offer.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on April 11, 2008, 00:49:17 AM
There are some blogs around showing beta footage, no decent battle shots though. Mostly scenery and in-game non-com footage

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/32674.html

apparently there is some fighting footage in the new vid, but no interface to show you what is actually happening

also looks a little crappy, for a new mmo you would expect actual contact when fighting to make it look like things are hitting each other, rather than swinging at air and things being hurt

[edit] Here is a clip of some RvR http://www.war-europe.com/#/video/?video=en7&lang=en tbh, doesnt look anything more than a wow battleground without objectives was hoping to be more impressed [edit]
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on April 11, 2008, 01:35:51 AM
Beta Video seems poor actually, still going to give it a chance anyway :)
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Serious on April 11, 2008, 02:12:31 AM
Quote from: Chris H
There are already far to many Elves/Orcs/Goblins high fantasy MMOs out there for me to be even remotely interested in this. If it were 40K rather than standard Warhammer it would be a different story but I think theyre coming into the market too late with nothing new to offer.


I would prefer that too.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Bacon on April 11, 2008, 02:25:17 AM
Who wanted videos?

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1026.html

It looks to much like wow, apparently it plays like wow, a lot of the concepts in wow were taken from Warhammer so.. :P

ive opted for Age of Conan, and if that sucks we have Spellborn, Star Trek, Stargate, etc etc etc
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on April 11, 2008, 04:03:47 AM
Quote from: Bacon
Who wanted videos?

http://www.gametrailers.com/game/1026.html

It looks to much like wow, apparently it plays like wow, a lot of the concepts in wow were taken from Warhammer so.. :P

ive opted for Age of Conan, and if that sucks we have Spellborn, Star Trek, Stargate, etc etc etc


It is nothing like wow, it is a lot bigger and the way you play is very different and even when you pve it is to a bigger goal towards pve. You whole server and faction actions reflect what happens to the whole server. This game is scaring many because it is huge and they class it as a hobby game. No casuals no short stay players, if your playing WAR it is a hobby.
You need to watch the developer videos on the US site (not flash also new look it works better then the EU site) and watch the RVR information videos etc.

Take the recent city info videos, You have your city and it starts off on all realms run down, the more you do on the server and more everyone gets rep and does quests more of the city opens up and the city changes wealth and new zones and new quests open up, not after you get to a certain level but when everyone has done x amount of things in regard to the city. Piles of rubbish blocking roads that are later cleared up etc.
Thing is the other faction can see a city progression and decide to go pillage and ransack and you get that in the game with things on fire etc and both get new quest hubs when a city turns into this state and you work to sort it our or be the attacker etc.
RVR is massive, small things lead to bigger and bigger things... Watch all the podcast videos on the site and you will see just how stupidly big and complex it is (in a good way)
It is certainly nothing like wow

It has a trophy system where when you do things and kill stuff you do not just get the loot but you can get a trophy like an orc head and you can place that upon your person and be visual to everyone

As for beta it is 3 months behind development internally and has not got the lighting or some of the rendering engines in it

I wont be playing it, to big for me

Many know blizzard has started and is hiring for its next MMO, which is about right, wow is 3 years old, development of your next mmo takes 2-3 years going on what you learn and it will mean wow is about 5 years old so 2010 would be a good time for the next.
- Another version of wow would be stupid
- Diabalo would just basically be wow since wow has many aspects and concepts from that game already. It is best as an rpg
- Some total new story and mmo, this would mean though you would have to make new races and new lore and what not from scratch, more work and more cost.
- Starcraft, The RTS will be a big hit and hype everyone up and the april fools the other year with starcraft mmo got a lot of hype in terms of a concept for such a game. You got the lore, the factions, the races etc to work with and take what you know from wow, use a nice engine which could follow from the looks of starcraft 2 and you have a very good concept for a starcraft mmo.
Besides who does not want pew pew lazer beams?

Star trek online is a mess and been shafted and shifted many times over and again in a mess right now. You will not see this for a long while if at all
Stargate - they been rather hush hush about it really even in their blogs, has nice concepts but will it work? Who knows.

Conan looks great but I think I may not ever pick up an mmo again anyway.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Bacon on April 11, 2008, 04:19:39 AM
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Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on April 11, 2008, 13:52:21 PM
I am hedging my bets on AoC atm, has an actual tangible release date, has betas going on, completely new style (violent and graphic).

I have seen some nice looking stuff in relation to it, and the guild system (own keep) looks good. I just have the feeling it is far too pvp orientated for alot of mmo gamers.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on April 11, 2008, 14:15:30 PM
Quote from: Sweenster
I am hedging my bets on AoC atm, has an actual tangible release date, has betas going on, completely new style (violent and graphic).

I have seen some nice looking stuff in relation to it, and the guild system (own keep) looks good. I just have the feeling it is far too pvp orientated for alot of mmo gamers.


That is th question, I would love to at least experience a pve raid under that combat system, pvp you can see it working great with a lot of skill elements (problem is less lag and a top pc to run the game will actually be more important then in wow) But how will that work in a raid with a group of people and bosses and npcs, agro etc? Probably works well but I would love to get my hands on it to see how it works

Supposed to be rumored to come on the 360 also and the chat pad and controller use along side pc players
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on April 11, 2008, 15:54:37 PM
good point about the net connection/computer

everything you do is live, it isnt click and watch. speed will be of the biggest importance.

would be nice to see a pc/console connection, but they will have to make sure the balance is fair.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on April 11, 2008, 16:10:01 PM
Updating WoW now. Damn it!

Im going to be at Uni when WAR kicks off so a hell of a lot of spair time :)
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Leon on April 13, 2008, 04:07:20 AM
Bring on AoC or Warhammer 40K :P

Might have to give this is a try at some point but the changes of me getting a computer when in Oz are slim.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on April 23, 2008, 11:56:55 AM
I want to work for these guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBgKkGgIVIE
I love Pauls podcasts and videos they are brilliant
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on April 23, 2008, 16:01:20 PM
I love the way he explains the different races in this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWvAznIRVLA
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on April 23, 2008, 16:17:11 PM
Quote from: TheMallrat
I love the way he explains the different races in this vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWvAznIRVLA


Where is his bears bears bears (one of his first vids) I love him, I think has a great job and the way he goes about it is great and in terms of a company and game representitive I think himself alone has generated a lot love and hype by players and press for the game all on his own.
His podcasts are brilliant

Right for all or not quite what it should be as an mmo the developers at mythic are cool and know how to comunicate with its players, listen, work hard but have fun.
Wow developers know their game and do a LOT of content and changes and for a long while do listen overall with their player base but they are TERRIBLE and telling people what is going on and tbh at any press event they are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO boring, droll robots and never really say anything and dare I say it at the moment not really listening to the players at the moment, they still are as the normally do but then you can clearly tell their attentions are on their next expansion and mmo and not their players at the moment.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on April 23, 2008, 16:20:34 PM
here is comic con this week : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBgKkGgIVIE
He is ace tbh
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on April 24, 2008, 00:39:58 AM
best game presentation ever?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meZjxmJ_Nak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ4Ixkx-IKQ
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on April 24, 2008, 14:41:30 PM
That guy is so bloomin funny! Well impressed with him!
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on May 23, 2008, 11:54:21 AM
I just got my BETA invite SCHWEEEET!!!
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on May 23, 2008, 12:05:47 PM
Quote from: Poison_UK
I just got my BETA invite SCHWEEEET!!!


Cool, Grats :)
A lot of people put it down when it should not, a lot forget about it being beta and what is not turned on in beta visually and a lot of people do not watch anything about it and so do not understand the content and features of the game.
I like this a lot, I wont play it as you need no life for this one but it looks massive and you will not be bored in terms of content.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on May 23, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
8gb to Download on a 2meg connection.... This should be fun!


7.17GB coming down at 220kb/sec 10hrs... Faster than I thought..
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on August 13, 2008, 18:57:39 PM
time for a bump. PreOrder servers open on Friday  :rock:
I quit wow yesterday. Quit the guild & just logon now to sell my stuff & collect my cash
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 13, 2008, 19:23:04 PM
Quote from: Eggtastico
time for a bump. PreOrder servers open on Friday  :rock:
I quit wow yesterday. Quit the guild & just logon now to sell my stuff & collect my cash


Are you talking about the US servers there?

If so, the people who pre-ordered in the US will be able to download the client on Friday, but wont actually get to play the game, unless they have been invited to closed beta.

If you are talking about Europe, then please post where you got the info from as the EU servers are being run by GOA, not Mythic, and a representative from GOA has said on the Warhammer Alliance forums that they are still working on getting their servers set up and they would be ready for open beta, but probably not before.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on August 13, 2008, 20:09:27 PM
Its wayyyyy to early for the release, Ive been playing Closed Beta for some time now and its not ready, unless they have been hiding a lot of the game from the Closed Beta testers.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 13, 2008, 20:36:54 PM
Quote from: Poison_UK
Its wayyyyy to early for the release, Ive been playing Closed Beta for some time now and its not ready, unless they have been hiding a lot of the game from the Closed Beta testers.


Well, the open beta is going to be in the coming weeks as there is just over a month before the game is released (September 18th).

As for the closed beta, I heard that earlier on in the beta they tested certain areas, so other areas were inaccessible, then every so often theyd close areas and open others so that they were all tested thoroughly. Although I dont know if thats how it is now as Im not in the beta.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on August 13, 2008, 23:12:11 PM
Quote from: Poison_UK
Its wayyyyy to early for the release, Ive been playing Closed Beta for some time now and its not ready, unless they have been hiding a lot of the game from the Closed Beta testers.


They do tend to hold a lot back in closed betas If you watch the video blogs you can see stuff and looks that are not on the beta. Internally the game looks a lot better.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Quixoticish on August 13, 2008, 23:19:14 PM
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Poison_UK
Its wayyyyy to early for the release, Ive been playing Closed Beta for some time now and its not ready, unless they have been hiding a lot of the game from the Closed Beta testers.


They do tend to hold a lot back in closed betas If you watch the video blogs you can see stuff and looks that are not on the beta. Internally the game looks a lot better.


Ive said this so many times over the years about so many MMOs. Take it from me, its NEVER true.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Leon on August 14, 2008, 01:10:27 AM
By the time I get home and sorted this will hopefully of been released and nice and smoothed out so I can jump right in :)
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on August 14, 2008, 10:40:32 AM
I meant closed beta servers for tomorrow for pre-orders?
15th
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 14, 2008, 13:42:11 PM
Its only people who pre-ordered the US version of the game that will get to download on the 15th. There is still no word on the Euro servers and downloads.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Poison_UK on August 16, 2008, 14:20:02 PM
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Poison_UK
Its wayyyyy to early for the release, Ive been playing Closed Beta for some time now and its not ready, unless they have been hiding a lot of the game from the Closed Beta testers.


They do tend to hold a lot back in closed betas If you watch the video blogs you can see stuff and looks that are not on the beta. Internally the game looks a lot better.


Ive said this so many times over the years about so many MMOs. Take it from me, its NEVER true.


A lot of the content they promised has actually been taken out.  :disappointed:
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on August 16, 2008, 19:03:26 PM
Quote from: Poison_UK
Quote from: Chris H
Quote from: neXus
Quote from: Poison_UK
Its wayyyyy to early for the release, Ive been playing Closed Beta for some time now and its not ready, unless they have been hiding a lot of the game from the Closed Beta testers.


They do tend to hold a lot back in closed betas If you watch the video blogs you can see stuff and looks that are not on the beta. Internally the game looks a lot better.


Ive said this so many times over the years about so many MMOs. Take it from me, its NEVER true.


A lot of the content they promised has actually been taken out.  :disappointed:


If it was wow it would be a lot of content but for WAR it is actually not a lot if you look at what it will be releasing with.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on August 18, 2008, 12:08:11 PM
well my pre-order box turned up & its for the collectors edition :oD

Open up the f**king servers you c**ts.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 18, 2008, 17:18:26 PM
Open beta starts on September 7th (http://investor.ea.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=88189&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1188038&highlight), so thats one week of open beta before headstart and then release.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 18, 2008, 18:48:32 PM
NDA gets dropped tomorrow and GOA have dropped the UK pricing of the game from £10.31 per month, £28.55 for 3 months, and £52.34 for 6 months to £8.99, £25.17, and £46.14.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: El Jacko on August 18, 2008, 19:43:53 PM
So about the same price as WoW then
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 18, 2008, 20:13:35 PM
Quote from: El Jacko
So about the same price as WoW then


Yep, theyve obviously looked at the pricing and realised itd be a stupid business decision to price it above the main rival MMORPG.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: El Jacko on August 19, 2008, 10:12:26 AM
Ill stick to WoW for a bit. level 68 and a half atm, should hit 70 next week  8-)
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on August 19, 2008, 21:12:01 PM
The NDA has now dropped, so we should hear more about the game and see a lot of screenshots and vids going up on the net in the next few days.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on August 22, 2008, 12:40:47 PM
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/flash/WAR_cinematic_08.html
Compare that to the new cinematic for the next wow expansion or any of wow for that matter, out did them and blizzards are good. Mind you the WOTLK on is terrible really, it looks stunning but the actual content is pants compared to the previous and nothing on the WAR one.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Quixoticish on August 22, 2008, 13:17:50 PM
I just dont think the market needs any more orcs/elves/dwarves Tolkein-esque fantasy MMOs. I think there are still plenty of niches to exploit in the MMO market, doing more of the same means youre just going to be a flash in the pan. Youll grab a huge fanbase from other major titles and then theyll dwindle after 6 months and eventually move on to the next "big" thing.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on August 22, 2008, 14:17:32 PM
Quote from: Chris H
I just dont think the market needs any more orcs/elves/dwarves Tolkein-esque fantasy MMOs. I think there are still plenty of niches to exploit in the MMO market, doing more of the same means youre just going to be a flash in the pan. Youll grab a huge fanbase from other major titles and then theyll dwindle after 6 months and eventually move on to the next "big" thing.


Out of E3 came the over used term - Classless MMO, MAG - Massive action game (great title) being a bit different so while your correct there are things coming that are different. Will they work? Dunnu but different stuff is coming. Saying that though WAR is different and many who liked wow will not like war and it will not be because it does not play well but the sheer size and content progress will be to big for many who play wow and to in depth because its a very deep game, way to much content and why they had to cut some for release but it is still very very large.

Conan numbers are hurtful with them bragging over 1 million subscriptions one minute and recently quietly touting 465k I think it was still actively playing, that is a big fall off. Conan was released to early and unfinished and WAR does risk that as well so will see.

For me I will not play another MMO, kills to much of your time, I may consider the Knights of the old republic online though as the potential is there and I love the IP, I mean its star wars, come on SWG could have been great but the developers could only make the engine and the raw content concepts they had no grasp of what blizzard did well in terms of the raiding and questing etc.

Stargate worlds  - Could be a flop, could be a surprise hit.
Star Trek Online has finally a decent developer but they are more about churning out then developing something deep and this will be a ship shoot out with away missions on the side and not what it could and should have been. I mean when you read "Everyone is a captain" they tout, that kills it.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: El Jacko on August 22, 2008, 19:34:07 PM
Might I mention Eve online? Ive never played it, but it looks pretty good. Might get a free trial eventually
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on August 25, 2008, 21:56:31 PM
EvE is good if you dont mind playing a screensaver and doing complex maths
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: El Jacko on August 26, 2008, 10:21:11 AM
ah...maybe itll help me do well in the further maths A-level.
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Leon on August 28, 2008, 01:28:59 AM
I liked eve to play in a window when doing other things, couldnt quite get into it full screen, full attention.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 07, 2008, 15:26:22 PM
7 hours after the account servers went live and promptly messed up, and GOA still havent fixed them. Great start to the Euro open beta.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on September 07, 2008, 15:54:42 PM
yep, been trying for hours.
disabled all the old accounts & not deleted the data, so you need ro re-register & with a different account.
Been waiting 4 hours for confirmation email to activate my new account!

SHAMBLES - im thinking of quiting before Ive even had chance to login
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 07, 2008, 16:22:16 PM
Dont have to re-register. A news item just went up on the site saying that if you already had an account, you just use that. Still cant access it though.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on September 07, 2008, 17:15:11 PM
Quote from: TheMallrat
Dont have to re-register. A news item just went up on the site saying that if you already had an account, you just use that. Still cant access it though.


nope didnt work

ah, the login server is now down..
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 07, 2008, 19:53:15 PM
Posted by Magnus, one of the guys from GOA, over at Warhammer Alliance forums:

Quote
Server caps
Previous closed beta testers are being let in. We are successively allowing more and more players join. The current population cap is 500 players per realm (so 1000 max players online per server) with an additional 1500 players in queue. We will raise both the online and queue caps by roughly 25% every few hours. This is a delicate process, vital in keeping the servers and starting zones in good shape.

Should the need arise for additional servers, we will add more servers from our stockpile.
Our QA department is reporting that all servers and scenarios are running smooth.
Current Server cap: 1000 per server, 1500 in queue


They are less than 2 weeks from release and their server caps are that low. They say should the need arise, theyll open more servers. I think the need arose a long time ago as they have apparently given away around 200,000 beta keys.

Also, apparently there are people playing who got beta keys free from WAR fansites within the past week, whereas the people who pre-ordered the CE of the game and were guarenteed Open Beta access (like myself) are still not able to even enter our beta codes.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on September 08, 2008, 08:07:45 AM
Quote from: TheMallrat
Posted by Magnus, one of the guys from GOA, over at Warhammer Alliance forums:

Quote
Server caps
Previous closed beta testers are being let in. We are successively allowing more and more players join. The current population cap is 500 players per realm (so 1000 max players online per server) with an additional 1500 players in queue. We will raise both the online and queue caps by roughly 25% every few hours. This is a delicate process, vital in keeping the servers and starting zones in good shape.

Should the need arise for additional servers, we will add more servers from our stockpile.
Our QA department is reporting that all servers and scenarios are running smooth.
Current Server cap: 1000 per server, 1500 in queue


They are less than 2 weeks from release and their server caps are that low. They say should the need arise, theyll open more servers. I think the need arose a long time ago as they have apparently given away around 200,000 beta keys.

Also, apparently there are people playing who got beta keys free from WAR fansites within the past week, whereas the people who pre-ordered the CE of the game and were guarenteed Open Beta access (like myself) are still not able to even enter our beta codes.


exactly, the CE Pre-orders got a beta headstart in the US, as well as a live headstart. You know our live headstart is going to suffer from the same sh*t.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 08, 2008, 12:42:17 PM
28 hours later and the registration and authentication servers are still not available. They were supposed to be back up late morning, which GOA have now changed to early afternoon. How long until its late afternoon or early evening?

Europe should be the place that this game is the most successful, what with GW being based here. However, its looking more likely this game will bomb badly. Ive already seem posts by many, many people stating that they were cancelling orders and heading back to other MMOs and at this rate Im seriously thinking about cancelling my order too, or maybe keep the order for the books and stuff you get with it but not playing the game if this is the treatment well get.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on September 08, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
EA, gobbled up mythic and promised GW they could do it, Mythic let themselves be sold because of the investment and the fact they would have access to EA servers for a good mmo. It is EA who are letting things down at the moment from what I read, there problem.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 08, 2008, 13:12:32 PM
Quote from: neXus
EA, gobbled up mythic and promised GW they could do it, Mythic let themselves be sold because of the investment and the fact they would have access to EA servers for a good mmo. It is EA who are letting things down at the moment from what I read, there problem.


Its not EA running the Euro servers, its GOA, the gaming arm of France Telecom. Mythic let them run DAoC and, before being bought by EA, made a deal with them to handle the Euro version of WAR. Its GOA who have messed up, and Mark Jacobs of Mythic has defended his companies choice to go with them even after many, many people complained that GOA had messed up the Euro version of DAoC.

From what I hear, the US and Oceania betas which are run by EA are going very well.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Bacon on September 08, 2008, 14:18:59 PM
After the sh*tty launches of several other games in the year or so, i can say im glad i didnt buy into WAR :)
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Shaun on September 08, 2008, 14:32:42 PM
 :stupid: but I might get it in a few months if it proves to be anygood :)
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on September 08, 2008, 15:09:11 PM
I have gone from closed beta to open beta, so for me the change over has been easy.

The biggest problem is the website, which seems to be the worst thing constructed ever.

Tis essentially a huge lump of flash with flash modules that load from that. Which to means sounds like a terrible idea, but hey you can do showy effects, who cares if it works....

This is going to cause alot of upset with quite a few people.

Games Workshop is going to see a terrible launch in their eyes as the UK and Europe are their biggest customers and any bad press relating to them wont be good.

EA are going to be annoyed that one of their best chances of a worldwide successful MMO is going to be lost in probably the biggest MMO section of the world due to bad management that is out of their control

and Mythic who are going to have both EA and GW breathing down their necks about how badly things have gone.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 09, 2008, 14:38:01 PM
54 hours and counting. Id reccomend anyone who was thinking about getting this game to just go play something else. This game is 9 days from release and it has no registration system online, no working accounts system, and GOA keep posting lies as news on their website.

This is easily the worst open beta I have ever seen for an MMORPG, and Ive played a lot.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on September 09, 2008, 15:51:48 PM
Quote from: TheMallrat
54 hours and counting. Id reccomend anyone who was thinking about getting this game to just go play something else. This game is 9 days from release and it has no registration system online, no working accounts system, and GOA keep posting lies as news on their website.

This is easily the worst open beta I have ever seen for an MMORPG, and Ive played a lot.


yup, same here.
They flog the the CE with open beta access & then give thousands of keys away to the general public.
knew GOA would f**k up.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 09, 2008, 19:39:45 PM
Egg, if you have input your code on the activation screen and are waiting for the confirmation email, try this. Run the game and untick Save Login Name then try to log onto the game, it just worked for me, however it didnt work for my brother.

Also, on all the English servers the Destruction side is full, so youll probably end up having to play Order for now, unless you like to wait in line to get on. Its very annoying as I want to play as a Black Orc, but Ill have to wait for new servers to go up.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 10, 2008, 03:31:10 AM
OK, so played a few hours of the game now as both a witch hunter (Order) and a black orc (Destruction) and it is really good, once you can actually get on that is. The Tome of Knowledge is great as it fills up with info on the areas, creatures and other characters as you find them and there is a lot to read and the game does feel very Warhammery.

I would still say to wait to see if GOA can straighten their act out before thinking about buying the game though. Im still unsure of whether Ill be subscribing to the game come release. Im predicting another balls-up this Sunday as its supposed to be head-start for the CE players, however, GOA have it in their FAQ that the account centre for the head-start codes will go live on the Sunday, so they havent learnt from this first cock-up. Add to it also that a load of GOAs team will be at Games Day in Birmingham showing off the game rather than over in Dublin, so if something goes wrong again theyll have less staff there to sort it all out.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Eggtastico on September 10, 2008, 08:15:02 AM
finally patching  :w00t:
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: zpyder on September 10, 2008, 09:02:24 AM
I just watched another trailer for this, its probably one of the best trailers/intros for a game Ive seen yet. When will these guys end up producing a feature length movie but for adults, as opposed to the shrek/ice age generation :D

And as much as I wanted to play the game after watching the trailer, Im pretty sure itd end up like AoC. 2 weeks in sat there asking why Im doing the same old stuff over and over again...
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on September 10, 2008, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: zpyder
I just watched another trailer for this, its probably one of the best trailers/intros for a game Ive seen yet. When will these guys end up producing a feature length movie but for adults, as opposed to the shrek/ice age generation :D

And as much as I wanted to play the game after watching the trailer, Im pretty sure itd end up like AoC. 2 weeks in sat there asking why Im doing the same old stuff over and over again...


warcraft is in the making, still in script stages and casting but has the team from 300 doing the movie etc (google it) Big budget to the movie as well and will be a live action with cgi based affair.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: zpyder on September 10, 2008, 13:34:19 PM
Bah, I have a bad feeling a live action movie would end up just being cheesey like most game->movie films. Id be more impressed if they did a full length CG movie of the same quality of their intro cinematics. Sure itd likely end up being straight to dvd, but Id watch it.

I am however excited about the prospect of a gears of war film. Though thats bound to be of the standards of AvP, so long as you go expecting a creature action/horror flick, and not something extraordinary, it might be ok...
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: Bacon on September 14, 2008, 00:59:47 AM
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Dear all,
More than 100,000 European players have now created characters and launched enthusiastically into the violent and bloody battlefields of the Old World every evening. Despite this, for many of you and for us as well, the launch of the open beta has left a bitter taste. While it is true that the purpose of Beta Testing a game is to indeed expose problems before a game launches, the launch did not happen anywhere near as smoothly as we had planned.

Because of this I have decided to offer seven free days to all of the beta testers. If you decide to continue your adventures in WAR, and we certainly hope you do, you will be credited on your account from the 18th of September and will be able to take part in the adventure without any regret. By the beginning of next week, we expect many more to join us as we open the gates for our Head Start, and we look forward to welcoming all of you in the Warhammer world.

Best regards,

Ghislaine Le Rhun
GOA CEO


Bonus lol :D That is damn good of them giving a whole week free, i wish other companies adopted this idea :P

Ill be honest after lots of mates getting me on msn, i am now going to buy this game this week xD will start another thread with questions, hope some of you are higher lvl :)
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 14, 2008, 01:44:00 AM
Seems GOA are learning. The code input system for CE pre-orders was only 1 hour late going up, but they did actually inform us this time about the delay and, once the code was input, I got an email about 5-10mins later saying that my head-start was activated.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: neXus on September 14, 2008, 05:01:48 AM
Quote from: TheMallrat
Seems GOA are learning. The code input system for CE pre-orders was only 1 hour late going up, but they did actually inform us this time about the delay and, once the code was input, I got an email about 5-10mins later saying that my head-start was activated.


It is a game the knew would be popular but I think because these guys fully know WOW and what it means and have big respect for Blizzard they knew it would not be big or take over WOW but I think they have been surprised by the beta numbers and more over the open beta numbers.
I think EA as well is still only really developing its MMO network infrastructure from what I read, they have had their online servers for some time but with steam showing them up they have things in the works to address their issues as well as combine and manage all their online offerings.

I mean besides all the pc games you can play online, things like spore etc you have the MMOs coming from EA that should be some level of decent. KOTOR MMO has the potential to be one of the biggest as an example. WAR will suffer a bit being the first biggy of the new era of EA MMOs
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: Sweenster on September 14, 2008, 12:25:52 PM
In europe there is very little to do with EA.

Tis a Mythic/GOA job this side of the pond, all EA has done is package the product.

Which, tbh, is a worse thing as the US launch has gone incredibly smoothly compared to the farce of the EU launch with GOA
Title: Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 14, 2008, 13:12:43 PM
Quote from: Sweenster
In europe there is very little to do with EA.

Tis a Mythic/GOA job this side of the pond, all EA has done is package the product.

Which, tbh, is a worse thing as the US launch has gone incredibly smoothly compared to the farce of the EU launch with GOA


Indeed. Nexus, in Europe EA havent really touched the game other than putting out the boxes for it. All the servers and stuff are run by GOA who are nothing to do with EA. EA are running the servers in the US and Oceania and from the reports Ive heard they are really good, very stable servers. EA knows how to run an MMO, they ran Earth and Beyond, and for the time I played that there were no problems with servers at all.
Title: Re:Warhammer Online
Post by: TheMallrat on September 18, 2008, 00:30:38 AM
Got my Collectors Edition delivered today and have to say I was very surprised, in a good way. The first thing I noticed was the weight, this package weighs in at about 3.3kgs and the box itself is huge and made of very thick, very sturdy, and very shiny cardboard.

Inside is a hardback art book that is much bigger and has a lot more content than I expected. Under that is a smaller hardbacked Prelude To War graphic novel, and below that is a very thin mouse mat which has a peel off back so you can stick the mat to your desk. Then finally on the bottom of the the box is the Grumlock & Gazbag miniature in blister pack and the double-wide game box.

Well worth the £60 payed, in fact Id say its probably worth more than that.