Author Topic: Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?  (Read 15413 times)

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #15 on: April 15, 2006, 07:22:22 AM
Turn off PCI Performance.

Its just Busmastering only hiding in a guise.

If you have more than one card that is trying to go "im the bus master!" then things are gonna get *ucky.

That 8E error however makes me think of my issues when I had a rubbish powersupply.

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #16 on: April 15, 2006, 07:33:47 AM
You could test your RAM for sure with Memtest (its a DOS utility, google will find) - this has found faulty sectors on sticks Ive had in the past, usually performance ram like OCZ.
A quick check on your OS would be to shove another HDD in there and just install a clean windows and your game, if thats OK you know its not the hardware.

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #17 on: April 15, 2006, 08:04:04 AM
Sorry m8, you PMed me for help but Im so out of touch what with not having a PC for the last 9 months that Im no good anymore.  Im only using a m8s PC to type this now.

Sorry if someone else has mentioned it or if you have already tried, but you could try a fresh Windows install.

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #18 on: April 15, 2006, 13:01:07 PM
Cheers!  No worries - good to see you back anyway. :)

Im trying memtest as I write (is this it this:  http://hcidesign.com/memtest/ )?

That being all ok, Im going to format/reinstall Windows.  

Looking at defrag, my C:\ drive is:

9% Total Fragmentation
19% File fragmentation

And thats after a defrag!!!  :shock:
 

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #19 on: April 15, 2006, 13:07:08 PM
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I refuse to believe its a RAM issue but Ill try swapping the sticks around.  Ive found that in order to have dual channel, one of the sticks must be in slot 3.

Lets hope thats not the one thats fecked. :roll:

If it is, what BIOS settings do I use to run non-dual?... will it make much difference to system performance?


Forget dual channel, its not that important. Way less so than a stable machine.

Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #20 on: April 15, 2006, 13:07:58 PM
best to do a defrag in safe mode, windows is using less files so theres more of them avalible to be defraged.... plus turn off disk caching while you do it :) (right click my computer/properties/advanced/preformance/advanced)

not that that will help you much at the mo...

Id still swap around the memory first just to double chck its not that, just try with one stick... ok your computer will be a bit slower for 5 min, but its just while you test it ;)

tho as youve tried the old stuff back in anyway, Id say go for a format :)

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #21 on: April 15, 2006, 13:21:30 PM
Cheers fellas. :)

Im going to do a memtest first (Memtest86)  How do I create a bootable CD? The websites a bit poo, tbh...

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #22 on: April 15, 2006, 13:47:16 PM
Its easier off a floppy iirc. When youve made the Memtest floppy it cant be read by windows, thats one way of telling if its that program. You might have to buy a FDD if you havent got one!

Though - I think you just use Nero to create the CD from the ISO they have on the site.

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #23 on: April 15, 2006, 15:00:44 PM
Well, heres the test result and Im relieved (but not surprised) to see it passed...  :D



As Ive tried running the game (Star Wars Battlefront II) without a soundcard attached - but could it still be the soundcard/drivers etc causing the problem?

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #24 on: April 15, 2006, 15:16:51 PM
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Turn off PCI Performance.
You sure?!

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That 8E error however makes me think of my issues when I had a rubbish powersupply.
Everything seems fine on that side.  A quick check in BIOS reveals everythings stable (no wild fluctuations). :)

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #25 on: April 15, 2006, 16:01:55 PM
PCI performance is bus mastering. Adds nowt. Mines off, and if you have PCI performance on it means that if 2 cards are fighting for bus master then random sh*t will occur.

Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #26 on: April 15, 2006, 16:02:29 PM
if its ok without the sound card Id say the sound card is fine.
you swaped back to the old ram and gfx right ?  so its nor a mem or gfx problem.

if its not the sound card, gfx card or ram then that only really leaves a M/B problem (cpu problems are pretty dame rare)...

but tbh I doubt its a m/b problem, 99 times out of a hundred id your m/b goes tits up they your pretty unlikely to get into windows at all.

format and re-install is the only real option now tbh.

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #27 on: April 15, 2006, 16:12:18 PM
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PCI performance is bus mastering. Adds nowt. Mines off, and if you have PCI performance on it means that if 2 cards are fighting for bus master then random sh*t will occur.


eh?? bus mastering is where devices are allowed to comunicate with each other and not use the CPU

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Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #28 on: April 15, 2006, 16:15:33 PM
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if its ok without the sound card Id say the sound card is fine.

It even crashed with the soundcard removed. :(

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you swaped back to the old ram and gfx right ?  so its nor a mem or gfx problem.

The crashing occured with my old hardware and new hardware.

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format and re-install is the only real option now tbh.

Im going to buy a new soundcard - an Audigy Z2S or similar.  Thats my final attempt.  If I still get the CTD Ill reformat etc...

Cheers. :)

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #29 on: April 15, 2006, 18:02:24 PM
Eagle  have you tired it with just one stick of the new Ram in???? sry if I missed it in the thread  :P

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