Author Topic: Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?  (Read 15603 times)

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #150 on: April 23, 2006, 01:17:05 AM
 
Damn... Im just convinced its a sound issue.  Games most often crash when there is gunfire of some description.

Installing ALC650 AC97 Audio CODECs (Apr 06)... dont know why - just desperate now. :(

Id also like to test the hard drive(s) with Powermax.iso but I cant get it to run on boot (from CD).  Justs says:

No swap space!
A:\
A:\

 :?:

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #151 on: April 23, 2006, 04:03:51 AM
I have known a few newish Enermaxs go in my time.
Eagle look at my pervious post about your PSU ;)

http://www.tekheads.co.uk/s/product?product=603612

*Sigh* I would have given up trying to troubleshoot that system long ago,  wish you had decided to upgrade 8 pages ago or something lol :p

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #152 on: April 23, 2006, 05:03:50 AM
 
I know, I know :) ... but you know how it is. ;)

Tbh, Id rather the (failing(?) component would just explode and be done with it - at least then Id know what was up. :lol:

Theres little I can do at the moment so I just keep on plugging away.  Im running an XP3000+ CPU which is pretty old by todays standards.  I thought: what if its just being stressed to the limit (by modern games) and its getting too hot?  Its my understanding though that overheats usually just cause reboots (not CTDs/lockups) - correct me if Im wrong?...

So, I cranked up the rheostat on the CPU cooler and ran it at full chat for another session.  And, sure enough... no crashes!

So Im now thinking that maybe a re-seat is on the cards and some modern day coolage?  Running an Aero 7+ at the moment.  What do you think?  Do the symptoms check out with a hot CPU?  Maybe Ill run with the maxxed cooler for a few more sessions and see if it pans-out.



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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #153 on: April 23, 2006, 14:36:49 PM
tbh my 4 year old enermax has just been replaced although i could see the rails where well outta spec on it using speedfans readings.

itd crap out and reboot playing anything 3d due to extra load put on it while the radeon started drawing proper current.

could do with something that could log the rail voltages while playing games,
see if they dip randomly before lockup  :?:


oh yes over heating can cause lockups and not just random reboots.
got any temp readings? it should be able to read the xp3200s diode.

i get worried if the diode on mine hits 60oC although it should be good till at least 65 before crapping out in the past from when i was playing about clocking it.

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #154 on: April 23, 2006, 19:03:44 PM
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i get worried if the diode on mine hits 60oC although it should be good till at least 65 before crapping out in the past from when i was playing about clocking it.


LOL i cry if mines hits 40. Feelin i may bit a bit OTT  :P

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #155 on: April 23, 2006, 20:30:35 PM
 
Latest:

Two mega-sessions on Tomb Raider (with graphics at full-tilt) and no crashes.  

...and Ive reinstalled the Audigy because I just couldnt live with the pooey quality of the (Desktop) music.  :D  And still no crashes!

Ill crank up the RAM to 2.7 volts again in due course... when Im feeling brave again. :D

I also enabled APIC mode.  See http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/2006/01/04/bios_from_a_to_z1/page10.html

So, it looks like a CPU cooling issue after all. (After all that!)

Im setting mself up for a fall again, arent I?  :roll: Just wanted to keep you guys up to date, seeing as youve been so helpful.

Id like to install a monster CPU Cooler - got any recs for a Socket A board.  Few and far between now, Im guessing. :(

PS: Ill be buying a spare NF7-S v2.0 anyway - before they disappear altogether.
 

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #156 on: April 23, 2006, 20:34:22 PM
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Latest:

Two mega-sessions on Tomb Raider (with graphics at full-tilt) and no crashes.  

...and Ive reinstalled the Audigy because I just couldnt live with the pooey quality of the (Desktop) music.  :D  And no crashes!

So, it looks like a CPU cooling issue after all. (After all that!)

Im setting mself up for a fall again, arent I?  :roll: Just wanted to keep you guys up to date, seeing as youve been so helpful.

Id like to install a monster CPU Cooler - got any recs for a Socket A board.  Few and far between now, Im guessing. :(

PS: Ill be buying a spare NF7-S v2.0 anyway - before they disappear altogether.
 


touch wood quick  :D

I use the ThermalRight SI-97 with a fan running at 1600rpm so its wisper quiet  :D

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #157 on: April 23, 2006, 20:38:54 PM
Looks good.  How do you mount a fan on that?

:)

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #158 on: April 23, 2006, 20:40:56 PM
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Looks good.  How do you mount a fan on that?

:)


It clips on quite loosley with spring clips but there is no chance the fan will fall off. very goo heatsink. Oh and BTW i use the 92mm fan to make it more air flow to keep the RPM down :D

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #159 on: April 23, 2006, 20:42:46 PM
Here a pic of the temps etc for my system




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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #160 on: April 23, 2006, 21:18:30 PM
Does the fan you use (Panoflo?) have a rheo? :)

By the way, dya like my wiring?  :shock:  :roll:  :lol:



Well, she is rather old now (note dust).  Components do get a blast of air every now and then though. ;) :)

- Out fan at the back held on by 1 3/4 inch woodscrews, picture hooks and duct tape!
- Cable tidying courtesy of Scotch 3M. :D
 

Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #161 on: April 23, 2006, 21:28:45 PM
Fan is a Zalman quiet thing.

Ill get some pics up of mine but cant be arsed tonight as id have to pull evrything out :(

Why do you plug the CD into the sound card?? Thats so not done anymore  :D

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #162 on: April 23, 2006, 21:31:09 PM
i thought mine was bad  :shock:


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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #163 on: April 23, 2006, 21:56:53 PM
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Why do you plug the CD into the sound card?? Thats so not done anymore  :D
Lol - I dunno - Im a graphic designer not a tekhead! :D :P Hence all the Qs. :)  Where should it go?...
 

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Re:Whats causing the CTD/Bluescreens?
Reply #164 on: April 23, 2006, 21:58:40 PM
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i thought mine was bad  :shock:
Heheh, I thought itd raise a laugh.

Im thinking of getting one of those Tagan bad boys, just so I can minimise the amount of spag-bol comming out of the box! :)

Im actually quite fond of my system though (how sad is that?! :D) When she runs ok that is... ;)
 

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