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Re:Anyone getting an iPhone?
Reply #30 on: June 29, 2007, 16:50:58 PM
Sam, I seem to remember 3 or 4 years ago you pouring scorn on the ipod, saying how rediculous it was and how it was "as big as your head".  And now you have one.  What changed your mind?  The colour screen?  :lol:

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Reply #31 on: June 29, 2007, 16:52:09 PM
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Im not saying you cant have one and Im not saying you shouldnt get one.

Im saying its a gimmick.

And what youve just said you would use it for is gimmicky!

Say hello to what will be the most succesfull and probably most popular gimmick in the world ever

Sureys done on the UK show many people will want it, Blackberry is coming out with all the nasty fight talk so they are concerned.
Its funny how you say gimmick sam when acutally bar the odd thing there is not may gimmick features actually on it.
No ring tone or massive customisations on it and actually it has NO games on it either,
As steve said - Email, text, pictures to show off in a nice way so your not carrying around a laptop or hook up something to a pc to show some snaps, Ipod - you want/have one so :P, Wifi, voicemail you can actually bloody play which one you want, nice looking - THIN, notepad ability and calender to keep things on

If Microsoft done it it would have had a million useless features but the iphone for does seem very practical, that is why the blackberry is huge and very popular becuase of such features, apple seem to have used that as a base of what to have on the phone.

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Re:Anyone getting an iPhone?
Reply #32 on: June 29, 2007, 16:52:44 PM
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Sam, I seem to remember 3 or 4 years ago you pouring scorn on the ipod, saying how rediculous it was and how it was "as big as your head".  And now you have one.  What changed your mind?  The colour screen?  :lol:


Yeah I sort of just hinted to that but yeah he did, on here he put it down in a big way, and recently posting about info as he was looking to get one :)

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Reply #33 on: June 29, 2007, 17:20:17 PM
not sure combining two things in your pocket into one, having proper access to email and web browsing while having access to google maps and youtube is a gimmick but sure - why not :)

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Reply #34 on: June 29, 2007, 17:24:43 PM
still hate ipods. Give me a Zen anyday of the week.


The iphone looks interesting - the hype theyve created is impressive. I wont personally get one because I wouldnt use the features but it looks like a cool gadget.
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Re:Anyone getting an iPhone?
Reply #35 on: June 29, 2007, 18:01:32 PM
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Yeah I sort of just hinted to that but yeah he did, on here he put it down in a big way, and recently posting about info as he was looking to get one :)


Thats because they too are decent now, and not a rip off.

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Re:Anyone getting an iPhone?
Reply #36 on: June 29, 2007, 18:04:42 PM
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Sam, I seem to remember 3 or 4 years ago you pouring scorn on the ipod, saying how rediculous it was and how it was "as big as your head".  And now you have one.  What changed your mind?  The colour screen?  :lol:


No I think youre mixing me up with someone else ? But I do recall the ipod v1 being about 4 gig for a million pounds.

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Re:Anyone getting an iPhone?
Reply #37 on: June 29, 2007, 18:07:12 PM
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not sure combining two things in your pocket into one, having proper access to email and web browsing while having access to google maps and youtube is a gimmick but sure - why not :)


Google maps? Ok moderately useful.
Youtube? Get lost.
Email? Who the f**k needs email at 11pm in a pub? What they gonna do, send you a PDF attachment.

My mate came around last week with his windows mobile phone thing, about the same size as an iphone, f**ked about for 15 minutes showing me his emails all of which were so important they could have waited 2 weeks for a reply.

The net access runs at the speed of dark. Unless the iphone is magically gonna come with wireless broadband that works everywhere then that too is pointless.

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Reply #38 on: June 29, 2007, 18:14:53 PM
why do you thinnk I would only carry my phone with me at 11pm in a pub?  If anything I spend my days on the phone and emailing people.  Evenings is just text messages to meet up.  Email isnt a pub thing.

Im always in wireless access at home and at work.  And my emails usually require a response faster than perhaps your mates do.  Hell I currently have it so my outlook account is constantly running on a machinne at work and texts me whenever certain people/companies email me so I have to go find an internet connection to reply.

I dont really have to justify it, since the demand for the iPhone indicates Im not alone in thinking its very useful.  I spend most of my day emailing people that need replies fast.  I would use the youtube gimmick and google maps would be helpful for me (especially as someone just nicked my sat nav).  At the ened of the day I need email push facilities so that pretty much means blackberry or iPhone.  Every other solution for mobile email Ive seen has been sh*t.

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Reply #39 on: June 29, 2007, 18:21:10 PM
no one of your status (ie a nobody) needs constant email.

Tell me you need it when youre running google.

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Reply #40 on: June 29, 2007, 18:21:58 PM
lol - go back to coding computer programs :)

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Reply #41 on: June 29, 2007, 18:27:21 PM
Im with Sam tbh.

I cant think of a single person that needs mission critical email response.

Your mates asking you to pick up a bottle of milk on the way home doesnt need an instant reply. Anything that urgent can be sorted via a text or better yet, the real use of the phone: A phonecall!  :o

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Reply #42 on: June 29, 2007, 18:28:44 PM
What these phones can make calls ?

What the iphone needs is a killer application. Something that truely makes it amazing. The ipod was a big success because for the first time you could have your entire collection of music in your pocket.

With the iphone you can have, well, tekforums and youtube in your pocket. Oh and you can check your email all day in case you happen to be having a sh*t and 10 metres from your laptop.

Awesome.

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Reply #43 on: June 29, 2007, 18:36:43 PM
The killer app is youtube/google maps on a phone.  You dismiss that as a gimmick so you wont ever get it.  You dont have people around you who need instant access to emails and evidently dont have people who use youtube a lot so you dont see either as useful.  Maybe this is a generation gap thing but I suspect Im closer to your generation than the youth of today.  Almost everyone I work with uses blackberrys and every time we work off site everyone else is using them too.

These berry users dont all run companies but they would probably pick their blackberry up in a fire before they went for their bag.  For some people it is necessary - if you dont see that then I agree youll not see why its useful.  Lots of people rely on emails for more than getting milk.  Clearly your emails arent of high priority.



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Im with Sam tbh.

I cant think of a single person that needs mission critical email response.

Your mates asking you to pick up a bottle of milk on the way home doesnt need an instant reply. Anything that urgent can be sorted via a text or better yet, the real use of the phone: A phonecall!  :o


Nope - heres an example.  I coordinate and do the opening and shutting down of a clean room at work.  Every day that involves scheduling machines and gas lines for plasma furnaces, photlithographic processing,  bookings of metal evaporators and chemical etchers.  These have to be monitored as you dont want a furnace starting up near a hydrogen line or someone trying to desposit metals after someone else has been using an oxygen plasma.  You stick someone using a piranha solution on a bench next to someone using organic solvents and the explosion takes out a lab.  So, we have booking systems and clean room managers monitoring it all.

There are 16 slots a day for a clean room of 20+ people using it on a daily basis.  The whole system is done by email and updates around 4-5 times a day.  By not sorting slots out people cant do any work which costs money.  The raw materials are substrates of silicon carbide (several times the cost of diamond) and sapphire and onto them go layers of precious metals.  Days and days of work can go into making these chips and someone contaminating the step or screwing up the schedule can wreck them - the costs for this are far from trivial.  This timing/scheduling isnt a special event, its just day to day stuff we do that needs responses within the hour during office hours.  Its not that were running google but it is necessary for safety and so people can work - even for us mere mortals.

Were not allowed to take laptops into the clean room as they have fans and are also used outside.  Phones are ok in the entrance areas where we get preped.  Just going into the entrance room and checking a phone when it beeps is a lot quicker than having to constantly go back and forth to my office, changing out of coveralls, protective overshoes and gloves.


Then theres customers who we dont want to keep waiting and the constantly changing meetings.  These are the thinngs that you need to respond to within an hour or so even if not instantly.

Not everyone in the world sits in an office at a desk typing code.  If you find yourself at a computer screen for the full day then youre probably not very useful to the company anyway.  My bosses hardly ever even get to their offices as they spend the whole time in meetings and at conferences.  If they didnt have mobile email then theyd never know what was happening.

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Re:Anyone getting an iPhone?
Reply #44 on: June 29, 2007, 18:43:53 PM
Not for you fine, but its wrong to assume another person would not actually use the feature, becuase as steve just showed and the fact they will be sold out in the US and the most required about phone in the UK ever, a lot of people do :)

Funny thing when you mention the Ipod phone price, its dropped a little but for the full version each generation has roughly been about the same price as the one before it since launch and only the lighter and smaller and so cheaper version have followed since then.
And to just confirm on build quality while some as always break or fail, as you see posted on here a few times loads who bought the 1st gen, second gen still have them and only just selling them and all they put on when selling is that the back of them is scratched.

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