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Title: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on January 15, 2015, 00:12:37 AM
So what's going on with bitcoin now the price is $175. Anyone still got it? Anyone recommend getting some
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 19, 2015, 16:12:51 PM
Still holding here as  the techs not going anywhere, lots of work is going on building the architecture, I still think we're a good 3 years from proper adoption (if it happens)

US Govt is due to sell some more, could be why it's gone down but that's just speculation from me :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 05, 2015, 21:00:15 PM
I'm still holding a few along with several thousand of another "currency" called ARCHCoin. It's not really a currency though, more like a company stock.

See :- http://www.archcoin.co/ and http://moby.io

As for BTC, the concensus is that the price is being manipulated down, probably to tie in with a climb after the Winklevoss Twins' Bitcoin exchange goes live. So many different conspiracy theories though. I don't pay much attention these days as I'm more into playing Elite Dangerous :D

We may see sub $200 again tonight. I personally think $150~$200 is a buy.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on February 10, 2015, 16:32:20 PM
Quite a few of the companies mining bitcoin have reduced or stopped production. They made a lot of profit for their owners from dedicated bitcoin hardware that was made to only produce bitcoin.

As with all commodity markets prices can rise and fall. Bitcoin is a young currency so large variations are expected.

Amateurs and hobbyists don't seem to get much of a look in now
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on February 10, 2015, 23:56:52 PM
This might be interesting for bitcoin people. A server using waste heat to heat your home?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22530072.800-the-computer-that-crunches-cloud-data-to-heat-your-home.html
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 12, 2015, 18:23:33 PM
Quite a few of the companies mining bitcoin have reduced or stopped production. They made a lot of profit for their owners from dedicated bitcoin hardware that was made to only produce bitcoin.

As with all commodity markets prices can rise and fall. Bitcoin is a young currency so large variations are expected.

Amateurs and hobbyists don't seem to get much of a look in now

True, several have now stopped mining. Saying that unless BTC is over $300 it's unprofitable, even with ASICs.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 19, 2015, 18:31:34 PM
For anyone interested in what happened at MtGox in respect to the rise of BitCoin in 2013, read this http://blog.wizsec.jp/2015/02/mtgox-investigation-release.html

Very interesting I thought.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on February 19, 2015, 23:08:09 PM
i only mined for a little while... but put my coins into MtGox to sell them

my little brother didn't have s sell account... so I gave him cash for his coins...

both right before MtGox went down

balance was £2500 at the time :-(
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on February 20, 2015, 00:05:11 AM
Quite a few of the companies mining bitcoin have reduced or stopped production. They made a lot of profit for their owners from dedicated bitcoin hardware that was made to only produce bitcoin.

As with all commodity markets prices can rise and fall. Bitcoin is a young currency so large variations are expected.

Amateurs and hobbyists don't seem to get much of a look in now

True, several have now stopped mining. Saying that unless BTC is over $300 it's unprofitable, even with ASICs.

So is that the beginning of the end of bitcoin?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on February 20, 2015, 03:00:44 AM
For anyone interested in what happened at MtGox...

To be honest the whole issue looks very suspiciously like an insider job, otherwise why didn't anyone notice the bitcoins vanishing without them being replaced with money?

if it wasn't then some people acted very stupidly.

End of bitcoin Sam? not quite. Bitcoin value has dropped but it depends on supply and demand. Really BTC is a worthless item based on computational power and belief and hope. There are plenty of currencies that are based purely on belief and hope. That would be all of them.

Look at any UK currency note, it says clearly 'we promise to pay the bearer the sum of X pounds' making it an IOU. Most currency is stored as numbers by banks, not actual notes or coins.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on April 22, 2015, 19:17:17 PM
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2913213/mtgox-creditors-can-finally-file-claims-for-lost-bitcoins.html

Knighty, did you lose some BitCoin in the MtGox collapse?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on April 23, 2015, 00:22:08 AM
I sold my bt and had just under $3000 in my MtGox account which I tried to remove for a month but it wouldn't let me... :-(


I'll stick a claim in.... see what happens... doubt I'll get much


wouldn't have been so bad... but my little brother had £1200 worth of bt he wanted to sell... so i gave him cash for them because i already had a authorised sellers account!   :-(
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on April 23, 2015, 08:27:01 AM
Best of luck. Anything is better than nothing.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on August 04, 2015, 08:07:01 AM
Hmmm.....

MtGox bitcoin chief Mark Karpeles arrested in Japan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33745611
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on August 04, 2015, 10:11:12 AM
Hmmm.....

MtGox bitcoin chief Mark Karpeles arrested in Japan

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-33745611

Yep, excellent news for BitCoin, weeding out the bad actors is a good thing, if only it worked like this with fiat.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 03, 2015, 20:13:33 PM
Anyone else making good money last month and this month on the current BTC pump?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on November 03, 2015, 22:07:09 PM
nope... they gone up in value ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 05, 2015, 18:05:40 PM
Was down at about $240 beginning of October. Hit $505 yesterday. Crashed to $366. Back at $400 now.

Currently in a bit of a edgy sideways, hoping for a breakout to start another bull run.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Dave on November 06, 2015, 17:58:17 PM
you can now bet on bitcoin prices with IG Index

spreadex introduced this a while ago but IG are now offering additional currency pairs other than the standard XBT/USD pair

can bet on XBT/GBP, XBT/EUR and XBT/JPY if you like....

obviously you're likely to get raped a bit by the spread
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 06, 2015, 20:08:42 PM
Well the pump is definitely over. 2 day downtrend since the $504 peak.

Potential for it to come back to $250~$270 range March~April 2016. Maybe another proper pump then. This may have been a test pump just like the test pump that occurred in 2013 before the meteoric rise to $1000+.

I pulled my £ from the exchange today, only played with 1 bitcoin as the majority of mine are invested elsewhere. But came out with a 120% profit, so happy with that.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 08, 2015, 10:33:53 AM
It's reaching a critical point again. It's been channeling sideways for a day now. In 1.5~3 hours we're going to get a move up or down. Break the line down and we'll definitely be heading right for $350. Go up and we'll see resistance about $440.

(http://s12.postimg.org/l8xovz3el/BTC_UP.png)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on November 11, 2015, 02:50:50 AM
Thought this bitcoin lark had died a death. Will it ever go back to the $1500 or whatever it was when people were telling me the days of the banks were numbered.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 21, 2015, 00:06:21 AM
Definitely not dead. Far more adoption now than there ever was.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on November 21, 2015, 13:56:14 PM
I have some bitcoins that I want to spend. Where can I spend them in a proper online store, not like bitcoinelectronics.co.uk or myfirsteshop.com
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 21, 2015, 14:40:19 PM
I have some bitcoins that I want to spend. Where can I spend them in a proper online store, not like bitcoinelectronics.co.uk or myfirsteshop.com

http://www.scan.co.uk/info/bitcoin
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on November 21, 2015, 16:53:28 PM
Cool next time I need something I can use these bitcoins up.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 21, 2015, 19:59:17 PM
I believe Microsoft also accept it for online payment.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30377654

Dell - http://www.dell.com/learn/uk/en/ukcorp1/campaigns/bitcoin-marketing-uk?c=uk&l=en&s=corp

Have a look here also - http://www.wheretospendbitcoins.co.uk/search

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on November 23, 2015, 21:51:59 PM
I had a look on that list before, it's quite a lot of places, but nothing took my fancy.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 12, 2016, 23:14:03 PM
Have you been watching? Up 50% in the last two weeks!

Sent from my GT-I9195 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on June 13, 2016, 09:10:13 AM
I can't be arsed with it any more, I'm much happier taking dividends from big boy stocks
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on June 15, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
I can't be arsed with it any more, I'm much happier taking dividends from big boy stocks

https://bnktothefuture.com/ do Bitcoin dividends daily, some of the investments there are high risk mind!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 19, 2016, 08:40:04 AM
Hit $784 yesterday. That's it up 120% for the year.  :ptu:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on June 23, 2016, 13:40:23 PM
$580 now. It's worthless as a currency when it moves about so much.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 24, 2016, 22:00:06 PM
But fantastic to trade and make money on.  ;D
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 02, 2017, 11:42:55 AM
In case you missed it, Bitcoin is currently back up to $1030 / 7350 CNY / £840  :w00t:

Best performing currency for 5 of the last 6 years.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 02, 2017, 12:10:38 PM
Pushing almost 7400 CNY now, that's £865~

Personally, I think the bubble may burst again soon. This bull run has really stepped up the last two or three weeks, to the point i's going vertical. Usually, if it goes up this quick, it comes down this quick. Give it another week or two, we may see a new ATH. Then expect a retrace to at least $1000, it may or may not bounce there. If it doesn't bounce there, I see a drop to at least $800.

If you like catching knives and want a really good re-buy after the drop, $680~$700 will be magic.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 02, 2017, 12:12:56 PM
Chinese hot money yo

(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/one-chinese-gangsters-picture-id183380270)

http://www.fiatleak.com/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 02, 2017, 12:15:57 PM
Yep, 98% of trade volume is Chinese.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 02, 2017, 12:38:25 PM
This could be the "top" for now. Be careful if you're trading.

(http://s30.postimg.org/oin3uanep/photo_2017_01_02_12_36_04.jpg)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 02, 2017, 23:39:02 PM
Yep, 98% of trade volume is Chinese.

Yuan getting trashed, 8 year low VS USD, capital flight yo

(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/28/10/30A7F5F200000578-3420710-image-a-9_1453977776688.jpg)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 04, 2017, 19:39:24 PM
All time high for GBP and Yuan today, £937 and 8456Y (£990~) hit. Also up to $1140, just $35 below all time $ high.

I don't think it's done yet, having a correction, BTFD.

don't be surprised if we see $2~3k by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 04, 2017, 20:00:27 PM
All time high for GBP and Yuan today, £937 and 8456Y (£990~) hit. Also up to $1140, just $35 below all time $ high.

I don't think it's done yet, having a correction, BTFD.

don't be surprised if we see $2~3k by the end of the year.

I won't be surprised, but this is turbulent to say the least and I'd not feel comfortable with this being an entry point, you don't know who's entering who  ;) :lol:

With this said, the red dragon keeps on roaring, I've seen some crazy periods watching fiatleak.com


yo
(http://cdn.londonandpartners.com/asset/89f30cd7e7901304a7de1d86062ad3a5.jpg)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 04, 2017, 22:12:34 PM
I'm in and out all the time. But sure, if you buy in now and look away........  :o

When it has a proper drop, $850 is my new buy in target. Can't see it going lower than that. If it breaks $800 it's not a buy IMO.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 04, 2017, 23:06:29 PM
Getting another leg up now. We'll see ATH in USD before midnight.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 05, 2017, 13:33:51 PM
Retrace
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/LG_OXL0qvek/maxresdefault.jpg)




yo
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 05, 2017, 17:23:19 PM
Awesome day of trading. Sold out at £940, all in from £725. Out again at £800.

Hopefully get a double bottom around £700 later.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 06, 2017, 19:25:02 PM
Ok, we're on our way down for a while. £650~£700 / $800~$850 / 5500Y are buys IMO.

In case anyone else fancies a flutter, be patient.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 23, 2017, 22:56:46 PM
New all time highs hit on every major Western exchange today. $1180~ currently. Next stop $1250~$1300, careful around there and 11th March.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on March 01, 2017, 21:07:37 PM
Today we saw a new high of $1236. On GDAX's GBP market it even went as high as £1150  :o
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 01, 2017, 15:09:54 PM
matt5cott, still riding this gravy train?

After it crashed to $888 a few weeks back I went all in at $900, looks like we might see $1500 very very soon.  :nana:

Just hit $1480 on bitfinex and $1425/£1100 on GDAX where I trade.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 01, 2017, 15:24:23 PM
And there she blows. $1520
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 03, 2017, 17:05:39 PM
matt5cott, still riding this gravy train?

After it crashed to $888 a few weeks back I went all in at $900, looks like we might see $1500 very very soon.  :nana:

Just hit $1480 on bitfinex and $1425/£1100 on GDAX where I trade.

Yeah but I have a pittance, when I looked into BTC I didn't have a pot to piss in as I was getting a house, and I've never had an inheritance or anything so started on f*** all, and still pretty much have f*** all :roll:

Glad you're doing well trading, I'm still doing medium/long term analysis here http://backbit.co.uk/

Oh, and being as you're into trading check this out https://blog.veritaseum.com/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 03, 2017, 19:15:36 PM
LOL, just hit $1620 on bitfinex
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 04, 2017, 22:54:30 PM
Just don't get greedy and lose it all, play safe :cheers:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 09, 2017, 08:02:31 AM
Just don't get greedy and lose it all, play safe :cheers:

Playing very safe..... Ding ding $1750 is in. Just sold some at £1350  :nana:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 09, 2017, 13:12:56 PM
Meh, I should start my own fag brand, "HODL & hedges"  :lol:

Based on the long term plan of HODL and the risk mitigation of hedges.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 09, 2017, 18:53:54 PM
Meh, I should start my own fag brand, "HODL & hedges"  :lol:

Based on the long term plan of HODL and the risk mitigation of hedges.

You're just hodling are you? Do you not do any trading to try and accumulate more?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 09, 2017, 23:40:51 PM
Meh, I should start my own fag brand, "HODL & hedges"  :lol:

Based on the long term plan of HODL and the risk mitigation of hedges.

You're just hodling are you? Do you not do any trading to try and accumulate more?

I dabbled a long, long time ago, the fact the market never sleeps was enough for me after a couple of weeks, I also don't like the idea of leaving it on exchanges.

I'd rather stake a % on alts as a hedge and just HODL those as well.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 11, 2017, 10:48:22 AM
What alts are you hodling?  :w00t:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 11, 2017, 22:59:58 PM
What alts are you hodling?  :w00t:

Long term small hedges in 15 alts, stuff like DASH, ETC (I don't like ETH for "bailing out") STRAT, SYS, then stuff like MAID/STORJ etc...

As I said, it's just a hedge, generally as I'm sure you know the alts/BTC tend to see-saw, though alts have certainly exploded recently.

Any alts you're particularly fond of?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 14, 2017, 05:50:37 AM
What alts are you hodling?  :w00t:

Long term small hedges in 15 alts, stuff like DASH, ETC (I don't like ETH for "bailing out") STRAT, SYS, then stuff like MAID/STORJ etc...

As I said, it's just a hedge, generally as I'm sure you know the alts/BTC tend to see-saw, though alts have certainly exploded recently.

Any alts you're particularly fond of?

I used to trade alts in 2014 and 2015, but rarely so now, if I do it's bigger ones like ETH, LTC or XRP.

I turned to mainly bitcoin trading about a year ago, that brings in far more consistent money. I also mine ETH, I've got my main PC and 3 mining rigs, 21 RX480s in total. That brings in a bit too :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 18, 2017, 08:06:56 AM
Will we see $2,000 in the next few days? It's looking touch and go, a lot of people seem to think we'll definitely see $2k very soon.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on May 18, 2017, 12:33:34 PM
I also mine ETH, I've got my main PC and 3 mining rigs, 21 RX480s in total. That brings in a bit too :)

I thought mining was dead now?   not enough return in it ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 18, 2017, 20:33:11 PM
Mining ETH is very profitable right now and has been for a good year. Bringing me in £30~ a day currently, after electricity costs. Last month daily profit was as high as £50.

The other big positive is I didn't need the heating on all winter  :w00t:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on May 21, 2017, 13:13:41 PM
Just want to say that i read this thread with great interest.

Not trading but fascinated by the crypto markets.

Thanks for all your posts!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 22, 2017, 07:26:14 AM
Bitcoin trading over $2100 now.

Ethereum over $160, which is great for mining profits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on May 22, 2017, 14:59:20 PM
Ive got a few questions that I cant quite get my head around, if you dont mind?

Can you buy less than 1 bitcoin?

Can you go short bitcoins are you just buying and holding actual coins?

I thought there was a fixed number of bitcoins? How does mining work in relation to this?

Are the competing currencies the same thing just with different names?

Whats the driver for meteoric rise of crypto values?


Thanks!

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 22, 2017, 22:05:53 PM
Can you buy less than 1 bitcoin?

Yes, it's very divisible, https://bittylicious.com/ is good if you want to chuck a few quid in.

Can you go short bitcoins are you just buying and holding actual coins?

Yes, you can go short via exchanges. just google it :)

I thought there was a fixed number of bitcoins? How does mining work in relation to this?

Yes, the block reward for the successful mining was 50, then 25, then 12.5 see here http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/

Are the competing currencies the same thing just with different names?

Some are just knock offs, generally to do well they have to add value somehow, ethereum and others allow smart contracts to be build and are quite different.

Whats the driver for meteoric rise of crypto values?

Escape from fiat currency via capital flight, increasing confidence, user adoption, business adoption, Japan recognizing bitcoin as a legal method of payment, coins being taken off the market for sale, people buying to speculate, high profile individuals declaring positions, likely more reasons but everyone thinks differently.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 23, 2017, 06:31:29 AM
Ive got a few questions that I cant quite get my head around, if you dont mind?

Can you buy less than 1 bitcoin?

Thanks!

Personally, I'd use www.coinbase.com (http://www.coinbase.com) or https://cex.io/r/0/Walrusbonzo/0/ (https://cex.io/r/0/Walrusbonzo/0/) for quick CC transactions. Or if you want to do a bigger purchase and are happy to do a international bank transfer then use https://cex.io/r/0/Walrusbonzo/0/ (https://cex.io/r/0/Walrusbonzo/0/) or www.coinfloor.co.uk (http://www.coinfloor.co.uk)

BTW, big bucks can be made by transferring money to Coinfloor, buying BTC and then selling on Cex.io. I'm literally making hundreds every day doing this, even after all the transfer fees. There is often a £100 price difference between the two exchanges! Cex.io also provides a very cheap way of getting money back to your account. For a flat fee of £2.90 you can do a credit/debit card transfer upto £1500. Please do not share this arb opportunity!!!!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 23, 2017, 09:09:06 AM
I'm literally making hundreds every day doing this, even after all the transfer fees.
:-\ Really?

Affialited links aside and not that I think you're embellishing or anything, but let me know when you moor your yacht! :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 23, 2017, 11:31:02 AM
might give ETH a go
I ahve a 280X GPU in a machine sitting around doing nothing.
Ive maybe only powered it up 5 times in the last 2 years!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on May 23, 2017, 13:49:08 PM
Thanks both for the info, I need to get it all setup.

I'm looking at Ethereum for a buy and hold investment. Really like the concept of it, need to do some more reading about the devs and liklihood they can deliver on their plans.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 23, 2017, 18:48:47 PM
Thanks both for the info, I need to get it all setup.

I'm looking at Ethereum for a buy and hold investment. Really like the concept of it, need to do some more reading about the devs and liklihood they can deliver on their plans.

Check out Ethereum classic also.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 23, 2017, 20:40:09 PM
I'm literally making hundreds every day doing this, even after all the transfer fees.
:-\ Really?

Affialited links aside and not that I think you're embellishing or anything, but let me know when you moor your yacht! :lol:

Yes, really! It doesn't take much to open up the two linked sites and verify that there really is a £50~£100 price difference per bitcoin. In fact, right now, on coinfloor you can buy BTC for £1738, but I'm currently selling BTC at £1933 on cex.io. Seeing as I sent £6k to coinfloor this morning i'm already up over £400 for the day. No yachts, just a Porsche Cayman S, or maybe a Nissan GTR  :w00t:

Thanks both for the info, I need to get it all setup.

I'm looking at Ethereum for a buy and hold investment. Really like the concept of it, need to do some more reading about the devs and liklihood they can deliver on their plans.

I'd be very reluctant to invest in Ethereum at these hyperinflated prices. Wait until the bubble bursts and it drops back to sub $50 at the very least. Or if you insist on buying, do some proper TA and be prepared to sell.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 23, 2017, 21:32:21 PM
Watch the bank doesn't pull the plug on you, only real "risk" really by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 23, 2017, 22:09:03 PM
Watch the bank doesn't pull the plug on you, only real "risk" really by the sounds of it.

I work for them, should be ok, even my departmental director knows I trade bitcoin.  8)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on May 23, 2017, 22:17:15 PM
I'm literally making hundreds every day doing this, even after all the transfer fees.
:-\ Really?

Affialited links aside and not that I think you're embellishing or anything, but let me know when you moor your yacht! :lol:

Yes, really! It doesn't take much to open up the two linked sites and verify that there really is a £50~£100 price difference per bitcoin. In fact, right now, on coinfloor you can buy BTC for £1738, but I'm currently selling BTC at £1933 on cex.io. Seeing as I sent £6k to coinfloor this morning i'm already up over £400 for the day. No yachts, just a Porsche Cayman S, or maybe a Nissan GTR  :w00t:

Thanks both for the info, I need to get it all setup.

I'm looking at Ethereum for a buy and hold investment. Really like the concept of it, need to do some more reading about the devs and liklihood they can deliver on their plans.

I'd be very reluctant to invest in Ethereum at these hyperinflated prices. Wait until the bubble bursts and it drops back to sub $50 at the very least. Or if you insist on buying, do some proper TA and be prepared to sell.

+1 on the Ethereum, tbh I'd be very cautious about taking major positions in ANY crypto atm, as WB points out, bubble bursting, correction, call it what you like, lots are saying one's due, if, when, and if so what magnitude it materialises as we'll never know, but do a lot of research before puling any triggers!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 24, 2017, 07:28:21 AM
hmmm only getting about 15 mh on a 280x 4gb
not sure if its worth the hassle with this card.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 24, 2017, 07:35:47 AM
Here is bitcoin since the start of 2012.

We're at point four, which much like points two and three, is in my opinion, nearing the top and the bubble is about to burst. This is mainly because the price rise is going parabolic, and when it does, it tends to crash back down. Just like a jet fighter going up vertical, it will stall and drop.....

Based on the fact that when the bubble burst after point three, it bottomed out near the top of point two, I believe that when four's bubble bursts it'll bottom out near the top of point three. Roughly $1000~$1100.

So buying in at the line, point one, will be my target.

All alt crypto currencies are pumped and hyper inflated right now, the same will happen to all of them, and worse.

(https://s10.postimg.org/q0825h32h/bitstamp_2012-2017.png)

Goodluck to anyone thinking of getting involved, especially so if right now.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 24, 2017, 07:40:06 AM
hmmm only getting about 15 mh on a 280x 4gb
not sure if its worth the hassle with this card.

280X will get 22~23mh/s with the right settings. The card's RAM timings most likely need tuning, that helps a lot in some cases. An overclock to 1200MHz on the core and 1500MHz or higher on the RAM will also be very beneficial.

If you really wanted to I could use my hex editor to fix the RAM timings, you would need to send my your card's BIOS. But even then, 22mh/s will get you very little.

Bear in mind, I have 630mh/s across all my cards and I'm only mining 0.55~ ETH a day, which at $180+ each is still nearly $100 a day right now. So your sole card at 22mh/s should get you about $3.5 a day.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 24, 2017, 07:44:18 AM
One other very interesting thing to note regarding Ethereum right now.

Due to its current price, the value of Ethereum mined each day is currently higher than Bitcoin. Just another reason why Ethereum cannot sustain these current prices. Before long, someone holding a lot of what they mined is going to dump big.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 24, 2017, 09:06:11 AM
Ive already upped the core and ram. Was only getting 12.5 before i did.
Ive tried following guides to flash my card, but it didnt like it.
Card is an xfx 280x - maybe ill look into it a bit more.
Its only a 3gb card

Last time it was powered on was july 2015 - i like my imac to much!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 24, 2017, 19:06:59 PM
Ive already upped the core and ram. Was only getting 12.5 before i did.
Ive tried following guides to flash my card, but it didnt like it.
Card is an xfx 280x - maybe ill look into it a bit more.
Its only a 3gb card

Last time it was powered on was july 2015 - i like my imac to much!

I used to have a couple of XFX 280xs and they'd do 22mh/s each quite easily. The key is memory timings. Limit your RAM speed for now to 1500MHz, not a single MHz more as that will use a slacker memory timing strap and reduce mining performance..... Unless you have a modified BIOS to work around that.

flashing a card is easy as anything, just need ATIflash 2.74, then use the command "atiflash.exe -p 0 BIOS.rom" where BIOS.rom is the filename of the ROM to flash.

But no point just flashing any old ROM, you need a custom modified one.

The amount of memory is fine as long as you are over 2GB.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 25, 2017, 07:47:08 AM
Wonder where this BTC train will stop.

Trading at $2500~$2600 on most Western exchanges.

Over $2800 on Cex.io

Over $3k in Japan

Over $4k in South Korea
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 25, 2017, 07:58:23 AM
Ive already upped the core and ram. Was only getting 12.5 before i did.
Ive tried following guides to flash my card, but it didnt like it.
Card is an xfx 280x - maybe ill look into it a bit more.
Its only a 3gb card

Last time it was powered on was july 2015 - i like my imac to much!

I used to have a couple of XFX 280xs and they'd do 22mh/s each quite easily. The key is memory timings. Limit your RAM speed for now to 1500MHz, not a single MHz more as that will use a slacker memory timing strap and reduce mining performance..... Unless you have a modified BIOS to work around that.

flashing a card is easy as anything, just need ATIflash 2.74, then use the command "atiflash.exe -p 0 BIOS.rom" where BIOS.rom is the filename of the ROM to flash.

But no point just flashing any old ROM, you need a custom modified one.

The amount of memory is fine as long as you are over 2GB.
I looked at editing my rom, but it seems because of UEFI there is not much I can change - or the guide I am following is out of date!
Rom file :-

https://db.tt/frAUqKRe1D
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 25, 2017, 09:26:25 AM
Ive already upped the core and ram. Was only getting 12.5 before i did.
Ive tried following guides to flash my card, but it didnt like it.
Card is an xfx 280x - maybe ill look into it a bit more.
Its only a 3gb card

Last time it was powered on was july 2015 - i like my imac to much!

I used to have a couple of XFX 280xs and they'd do 22mh/s each quite easily. The key is memory timings. Limit your RAM speed for now to 1500MHz, not a single MHz more as that will use a slacker memory timing strap and reduce mining performance..... Unless you have a modified BIOS to work around that.

flashing a card is easy as anything, just need ATIflash 2.74, then use the command "atiflash.exe -p 0 BIOS.rom" where BIOS.rom is the filename of the ROM to flash.

But no point just flashing any old ROM, you need a custom modified one.

The amount of memory is fine as long as you are over 2GB.
I looked at editing my rom, but it seems because of UEFI there is not much I can change - or the guide I am following is out of date!
Rom file :-

https://db.tt/frAUqKRe1D

UEFI won't stop you changing anything.

What type of memory is on your card Hynix AFR, Hynix BFR or Elpida BBBG?

Download and run this, it'll tell you https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ybetYJ0wwMMi1JaC1rYnJMNWM/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ybetYJ0wwMMi1JaC1rYnJMNWM/view)

Get me this info and I'll have a BIOS ready for you tonight.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 25, 2017, 09:52:00 AM
Knighty, I know you lost money on MtGox when it died 2013/2014

Maybe some light at the end of the tunnel - https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6d7tz9/mtgox_now_solvent/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 25, 2017, 14:16:36 PM

UEFI won't stop you changing anything.

What type of memory is on your card Hynix AFR, Hynix BFR or Elpida BBBG?

Download and run this, it'll tell you https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ybetYJ0wwMMi1JaC1rYnJMNWM/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ybetYJ0wwMMi1JaC1rYnJMNWM/view)

Get me this info and I'll have a BIOS ready for you tonight.

Cheers for the help 
Memory is Hynix AFR
H5GQ2H24AFR

Should I go by the Hashrate reported by miner (15 hash) Claymore
or the effective current hashrate reported by ethermine which is 23?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 25, 2017, 21:48:37 PM

UEFI won't stop you changing anything.

What type of memory is on your card Hynix AFR, Hynix BFR or Elpida BBBG?

Download and run this, it'll tell you https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ybetYJ0wwMMi1JaC1rYnJMNWM/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6ybetYJ0wwMMi1JaC1rYnJMNWM/view)

Get me this info and I'll have a BIOS ready for you tonight.

Cheers for the help 
Memory is Hynix AFR
H5GQ2H24AFR

Should I go by the Hashrate reported by miner (15 hash) Claymore
or the effective current hashrate reported by ethermine which is 23?

Your effective hashrate is more accurate for what you will get paid, but they should really be about the same.

I'll have to leave the BIOS until tomorrow night, had a busy day and off to bed now.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 26, 2017, 08:23:06 AM
no rush
the effecitve hash rate is up & down.
Anything between 14 & 24!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 26, 2017, 20:12:02 PM
no rush
the effecitve hash rate is up & down.
Anything between 14 & 24!

Sounds like you're hitting the thermal limit or power limit of the card, get that fixed first before I give you a custom ROM.

Best thing to try is run MSI Afterburner and have a good view of all the graphs while mining for 30~60 minutes and make sure clock speeds are not fluctuating and temps are not too high.

You want something that looks stable like mine :-
(https://s29.postimg.org/roaqwap1z/msi_ab.png)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 27, 2017, 07:28:21 AM
Nice dumps, back $2k.  :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic: :panic:

(https://i.redd.it/vwqxgf7xnvzy.jpg)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 27, 2017, 09:59:43 AM
how do I get the graphs up :S
Cant find an option
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on May 27, 2017, 10:24:56 AM
Knighty, I know you lost money on MtGox when it died 2013/2014

Maybe some light at the end of the tunnel - https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/6d7tz9/mtgox_now_solvent/


I filled all the forms in on the site for getting it back before... and was told they have no record of any funds/bitcoins in my account


Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 27, 2017, 12:22:05 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18671571_10155186368446259_7434906964088316645_o.jpg?oh=bdcc04d6da5e9f07438c6d76229928c9&oe=59A564F5)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 27, 2017, 14:41:04 PM
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18671571_10155186368446259_7434906964088316645_o.jpg?oh=bdcc04d6da5e9f07438c6d76229928c9&oe=59A564F5)

Looks good, and this only gets you 15mh/s?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 27, 2017, 14:54:03 PM
Yup
I put it down to Ether being more difficult to mine?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 27, 2017, 15:25:39 PM
Yup
I put it down to Ether being more difficult to mine?

No, it's not that. I had 7950s, 7970s and 280xs before and they all did 21Mh/s+

Try this BIOS - https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-kBKCkQPKZCcTRUOUw0bTh6X0E

I've only changed the memory timing strap for 1500MHz. It appears 1500MHz is the highest strap in this BIOS so you shouldn't suffer a performance penalty overclocking the RAM. Try 1200MHz on the CORE and 1700MHz on the RAM. If that don't get you 22MHs+ I don't know what will as your graphs looked fine.

Are you using the Claymore ETH miner? You're not dual mining are you?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 27, 2017, 17:10:25 PM
Nope, that Bios dropped it to 2 mh/s!
Only running 1 miner & using claymore
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 27, 2017, 18:09:37 PM
Nope, that Bios dropped it to 2 mh/s!
Only running 1 miner & using claymore

Flash back to stock BIOS. Something not right with your card and I don't know what, sorry.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on May 27, 2017, 19:07:03 PM
Nope, that Bios dropped it to 2 mh/s!
Only running 1 miner & using claymore

Flash back to stock BIOS. Something not right with your card and I don't know what, sorry.

yep, no worries. I was going to give the system to my nephew anyway, since his sister borrowed my macbook 3 years ago & not given it back.
Was a decent spec machine. I just dont use it.....
Im so out of the game.. no idea why my CPU now sells for more on ebay than I paid for it 2 years ago!
 1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor  with a z87 extreme 60 mobo
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 27, 2017, 20:14:38 PM
Nope, that Bios dropped it to 2 mh/s!
Only running 1 miner & using claymore

Flash back to stock BIOS. Something not right with your card and I don't know what, sorry.

yep, no worries. I was going to give the system to my nephew anyway, since his sister borrowed my macbook 3 years ago & not given it back.
Was a decent spec machine. I just dont use it.....
Im so out of the game.. no idea why my CPU now sells for more on ebay than I paid for it 2 years ago!
 1 x Intel Core i7-4790K 4.00GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor  with a z87 extreme 60 mobo


Yep, them 4790ks fetch silly money still, so many greater fools!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on May 28, 2017, 01:34:07 AM
is there any way you can mine and have your coins auto sold at the end of the day/week/whatever and cash sent to bank account/whatever?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 28, 2017, 09:34:35 AM
is there any way you can mine and have your coins auto sold at the end of the day/week/whatever and cash sent to bank account/whatever?

I mine ETH on Dwarfpool using my Cex.io ETH address, Dwarfpool is set to payout ETH automatically every 0.1. On Cex.io I manually sell the ETH for USD (there is no auto option). I use that USD to trade Bitcoin and gradually sell it on the GBP market. I then periodically cash out via debit card. Only a £2.90 flat fee for transferring out £1497.10
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 31, 2017, 08:47:29 AM
If any of these sites have APIs it probably wouldn't be hard to extend the automatic chaining.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on May 31, 2017, 17:36:22 PM
If any of these sites have APIs it probably wouldn't be hard to extend the automatic chaining.

They all do pretty much....

Bring on the mining rigs!! 13 pci-e slots :P
(http://www.asrock.com/news/images/20170529-5.jpg) :nana: :nana: :panic: :panic: :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:


Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 01, 2017, 06:43:58 AM
surely by the time you build a rig to use all that slots you be better off with an antminer or 2?
maybe more suited to Eth Mining?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 01, 2017, 18:57:58 PM
surely by the time you build a rig to use all that slots you be better off with an antminer or 2?
maybe more suited to Eth Mining?

No, they're not capable of mining Ethereum. It uses a totally different encryption algorithm to Bitcoin and is currently ASIC resistant. Therefore it can currently only be mined by GPUs.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 02, 2017, 07:14:30 AM
surely by the time you build a rig to use all that slots you be better off with an antminer or 2?
maybe more suited to Eth Mining?

No, they're not capable of mining Ethereum. It uses a totally different encryption algorithm to Bitcoin and is currently ASIC resistant. Therefore it can currently only be mined by GPUs.

I am aware of that, just not sure about Asrock naming it BTC+ where it is clearly not worth it for BTC
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 02, 2017, 08:07:25 AM
surely by the time you build a rig to use all that slots you be better off with an antminer or 2?
maybe more suited to Eth Mining?

No, they're not capable of mining Ethereum. It uses a totally different encryption algorithm to Bitcoin and is currently ASIC resistant. Therefore it can currently only be mined by GPUs.

I am aware of that, just not sure about Asrock naming it BTC+ where it is clearly not worth it for BTC

Oh yeah, bad naming.... might have been better calling it mining+ or crypto+
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 08, 2017, 10:33:22 AM
im thinking about getting a few graphic cards and see if I can make a few quid
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 09, 2017, 17:45:50 PM
ok, last 2 weeks I have managed to mine a bit & sold for £32.
Whats teh best way to withdraw? Coinbase want me to send them 6 euros to setup withdraw in GBP
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 10, 2017, 18:01:05 PM
I use cex.io (https://cex.io/r/0/Walrusbonzo/0/) to get money out.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 10, 2017, 21:48:59 PM
Signed up but waiting for id to be vsluated. Eth is glying today!


Intersted to see if the prices hold. Esp. After gpu's are back in stock!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 10, 2017, 21:55:35 PM
AMD Vega boards couldn't come out soon enough.

I sold 20 RX480s this week, there is such a high demand for them that I stuck 'em all on eBay and the lot sold in a day. Every single one sold for over £260 after fees.  :nana: Some nutter even bought one for £310!

Just the one left now, which is in an eBay auction.

When I bought them I never intended to get more than 50~60% of the money back on the cards, let alone make over £1000 profit when they're all 8+ months old.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 11, 2017, 12:30:08 PM
Replacing them with anything? Or was they spares?
Be intersting to see what happens to the mining prices one cards are available again.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 11, 2017, 13:47:41 PM
Bought two GTX 1080Ti so far. Looking at getting a load of GTX 1070s or maybe a few more GTX 1080Ti
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 11, 2017, 14:59:14 PM
Im thinking of hitting my paypal credit. 4 months interest free. Should pay for themselves in that time.
Im tossing up for 2x 1070s or 3x 580s.
Dont want to risk to much in case of a crash


& id like to get VR end of the year
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 12, 2017, 17:37:44 PM
1070's turned up.
little tweaking... It actually gets 63 when not running remote desktop


(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19095569_10155240204596259_2270334714234500986_o.jpg?oh=6f33f06a1edf27738d8c2438321ba0ec&oe=59D5F8D3)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 12, 2017, 18:25:51 PM
Dumpy dumpy time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 12, 2017, 19:10:33 PM
Monaco ico would be my guess
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on June 14, 2017, 14:00:06 PM
Well Eth went crazy! Disappointed I didn't get in at around $100, lesson learnt.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 14, 2017, 22:21:55 PM
Well Eth went crazy! Disappointed I didn't get in at around $100, lesson learnt.

Sure did, hit $450~ at one point on cex.io
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on June 17, 2017, 17:51:47 PM
Glad you're doing well trading, I'm still doing medium/long term analysis here http://backbit.co.uk/

Oh, and being as you're into trading check this out https://blog.veritaseum.com/

Hope you checked that out, $VERI up 33.51x from its April 25th initial sales price.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCiTVTCXsAAZw5I.jpg)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on June 18, 2017, 20:44:28 PM
Since you're all soooo rich now I expect you can throw me a couple of £million to live off. Oh and I need an 80 inch TV too  :ptu: :cheers:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on June 18, 2017, 23:59:54 PM
Since you're all soooo rich now I expect you can throw me a couple of £million to live off. Oh and I need an 80 inch TV too  :ptu: :cheers:

 :lol: My TV is still 42" alas, I still haven't a pot to piss in really, the problem is if you can only invest a few quid it doesn't really matter how big the return percentage is, you still have pretty much fook all :gag:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 19, 2017, 06:55:22 AM
If you had a pot to piss in, corbyn will take it to give to someone else a pot to piss in
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on June 19, 2017, 09:08:30 AM
Since you're all soooo rich now I expect you can throw me a couple of £million to live off. Oh and I need an 80 inch TV too  :ptu: :cheers:

 :lol: My TV is still 42" alas, I still haven't a pot to piss in really, the problem is if you can only invest a few quid it doesn't really matter how big the return percentage is, you still have pretty much fook all :gag:

I at least managed to buy my home a few years back. My TV is an early 1080p large screen, which I don't even switch on any more. I don't drink, don't smoke, the police don't want me to drive and the last holiday I had was over 10 years ago.

If you had a pot to piss in, corbyn will take it to give to someone else a pot to piss in

I donb't trust Corbyn, truth is he made a load of manifesto promises that he knew he wouldn't have to try to keep. Then, I don't trust May and her cronies either. The Brexiteers will be watching her and expect a leadership challenge if she doesn't deliver a hard Brexit.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 20, 2017, 13:48:45 PM
well, I sold the CPU & old ram & it paid for a new board, crap cpu & ram! (short story, I bought 4 cards & my old board would only support 3)
also sold the other r9 card.
new board should support 7 cards. Now I just need to earn some Eth to buy for new cards (providing they come in stock!).
Still going to take at least 6 weeks to break even on the video cards though.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on June 21, 2017, 07:42:29 AM
Has anyone got any recomendation of where to buy cryptos? I want to go long Ethereum and Antshares.

CEX not available in Singapore, Coinbase only allowing 100GBP a week max (bank transfers have been disabled for over a week).

Cheers.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on June 21, 2017, 18:58:54 PM
Has anyone got any recomendation of where to buy cryptos? I want to go long Ethereum and Antshares.

CEX not available in Singapore, Coinbase only allowing 100GBP a week max (bank transfers have been disabled for over a week).

Cheers.

localbitcoins.com should have someone selling, they act as escrow, you can pretty much do what you want with no boundaries with regards to swapping for alts when you have BTC.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on June 21, 2017, 19:08:17 PM
Also anyone looking to spend BTC in the UK, this list has grown a lot!

http://www.wheretospendbitcoins.co.uk/region/online
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 23, 2017, 12:09:25 PM
anyone lucky enough to buy at 10cents in that flash crash!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 23, 2017, 12:10:20 PM
Also anyone looking to spend BTC in the UK, this list has grown a lot!

http://www.wheretospendbitcoins.co.uk/region/online

microsoft accepts bitcoin

mining for a new xbox !
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on June 23, 2017, 21:15:26 PM
Also anyone looking to spend BTC in the UK, this list has grown a lot!

http://www.wheretospendbitcoins.co.uk/region/online

microsoft accepts bitcoin

mining for a new xbox !

And a 4k monitor  :yarr:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on June 24, 2017, 14:42:09 PM
Also anyone looking to spend BTC in the UK, this list has grown a lot!

http://www.wheretospendbitcoins.co.uk/region/online

microsoft accepts bitcoin

mining for a new xbox !

And a 4k monitor  :yarr:

4K monitors are nice but the text on them can be really small. Possibly better going for a good 4K large screen TV instead with HDMI 2.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 24, 2017, 15:52:55 PM
Also anyone looking to spend BTC in the UK, this list has grown a lot!

http://www.wheretospendbitcoins.co.uk/region/online

microsoft accepts bitcoin

mining for a new xbox !

And a 4k monitor  :yarr:

4K monitors are nice but the text on them can be really small. Possibly better going for a good 4K large screen TV instead with HDMI 2.

Realistically, no one buys a 4k monitor and uses it at 1:1 scaling, personally on my main PC with 50" 4k TV I set Windows display scaling to 200%, that way it's like Full HD res, but everything is just smoother. So no small text ;)

On another PC with 4k monitor I set scaling to 150%, so I get more usable screenspace, but still text is not too small
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on June 24, 2017, 19:30:45 PM
I use a 4k monitor at work 1:1 scaling for Webstorm. Would love to have a second one, its amazing how useful that resolution is if you have good eyes.

Tell a lie, I remember I increased the editor text size from 12 to 16, thats it though.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on June 24, 2017, 23:47:05 PM
I sold 20 RX480s this week

Bought two GTX 1080Ti so far. Looking at getting a load of GTX 1070s or maybe a few more GTX 1080Ti


didn't realise you were so big into mining

why the swap to the 1080ti ?  just because sale costs on old cards so high ?

online calculators are saying payback on a 1080 is 100ish days... with doesn't sound bad... but a lot can change in 3 months ?

and what/where are you mining ?


I quit mining when I was hit by the erm... place I can't remember the name of shutting down, tempted to mine again just for hell of it / something to do etc.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 25, 2017, 09:30:08 AM
I sold 20 RX480s this week

Bought two GTX 1080Ti so far. Looking at getting a load of GTX 1070s or maybe a few more GTX 1080Ti


didn't realise you were so big into mining

why the swap to the 1080ti ?  just because sale costs on old cards so high ?

online calculators are saying payback on a 1080 is 100ish days... with doesn't sound bad... but a lot can change in 3 months ?

and what/where are you mining ?


I quit mining when I was hit by the erm... place I can't remember the name of shutting down, tempted to mine again just for hell of it / something to do etc.
rx480 / 470 & 580 / 470 are the best bang to buck card, but they are in such short demand, the used market is booming.
So where an Nvidia was a massive leap in price, it is not as bad now.

I got 2x 1070 that run at 31 & 2x RX 580 that run at 28
RX payback will take 85 days, the 1070s 105 days @ the current price of $305 per Eth.
But that is without dual mining - where the nvidia can prob be cut down by quite a few days

Thats not taking into account power usage - my 1070's are set to 65% power, where the RX have not been adjusted except for the bios mod memory timings. Also not taking into account difficulty which is constantly rising....
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on June 30, 2017, 08:34:33 AM
I sold 20 RX480s this week

Bought two GTX 1080Ti so far. Looking at getting a load of GTX 1070s or maybe a few more GTX 1080Ti


didn't realise you were so big into mining

why the swap to the 1080ti ?  just because sale costs on old cards so high ?

online calculators are saying payback on a 1080 is 100ish days... with doesn't sound bad... but a lot can change in 3 months ?

and what/where are you mining ?


I quit mining when I was hit by the erm... place I can't remember the name of shutting down, tempted to mine again just for hell of it / something to do etc.
rx480 / 470 & 580 / 470 are the best bang to buck card, but they are in such short demand, the used market is booming.
So where an Nvidia was a massive leap in price, it is not as bad now.

I got 2x 1070 that run at 31 & 2x RX 580 that run at 28
RX payback will take 85 days, the 1070s 105 days @ the current price of $305 per Eth.
But that is without dual mining - where the nvidia can prob be cut down by quite a few days

Thats not taking into account power usage - my 1070's are set to 65% power, where the RX have not been adjusted except for the bios mod memory timings. Also not taking into account difficulty which is constantly rising....

RX cards were the best bang for the buck until everyone went batsh*t crazy over them, buying them for £300+ on ebay, second hand. So yeah, I sold them all to take advantage of that.

I've decided for now not to buy as many replacement cards. It's the summer, it gets too hot in my house. So for now got six 1080tis and two 1070s. I'm running Nemosminer(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1777336.0) on zpool(http://www.zpool.ca/) as it's more profitable mining many other things on nVidia cards than ETH. Not mining ETH at all anymore.

At first I wanted to buy more 1070s, but then prices of them started to shoot up too and there became a point where 1080ti had the same price/performance ratio. So it made no sense buying 1070s, even second hand. Brand new 1080tis are about the best bang for the buck at the moment, there's so little in it.

Between the 8 cards i'm currently making £40 a day roughly.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on June 30, 2017, 13:27:55 PM
I mined a bit on miningpoolhub with their miner which swaps around what's it's mining depending on what's most profitable for you at the time and then had then auto convert all to bitcoins, did about 24hours, got 0.00363143 which is £7 according to google

(24hours might be off a bit, I did it off and on

their miner CPU mined too, which I think is worthless?  but I left it going anyway (ryzen 16 cores yay!)


only did it because I was bored tbh, but tempted to set a machine up mining next time I'm bored

nephew has just upgraded, so my old watercooled 7990 is spare now :-)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on June 30, 2017, 14:12:49 PM
£7 is still cheaper than the running costs.
So its free money

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on July 01, 2017, 20:53:16 PM
free money... but not enough to get excited about, and it turns my spare room into an oven if I forget to leave the window open


I'm half tempted to wait for the next price crash/whatever so gpu prices drop and then set a big miner up at work just for the hell of it... idea being it'll never make any real money, but over a long term (years) might kick out some beer money
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on July 02, 2017, 12:31:17 PM
free money... but not enough to get excited about, and it turns my spare room into an oven if I forget to leave the window open


I'm half tempted to wait for the next price crash/whatever so gpu prices drop and then set a big miner up at work just for the hell of it... idea being it'll never make any real money, but over a long term (years) might kick out some beer money
your right about beer money.... I spend the money on beer making equipment & ingredients for my grainfather!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on July 02, 2017, 15:57:37 PM
I wish it was beer money

can't drink since I feel on my head, one drink and I'm pissed... thought it was just because I didn't drink for so long after falling on my head but I tried a drink a night for a month+ and it made no difference


frankie and bennys a couple of weeks ago, had 1 pint with my meal, almost fell over getting out of my seat when we went to leave :-o
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on July 02, 2017, 16:58:50 PM
free money... but not enough to get excited about, and it turns my spare room into an oven if I forget to leave the window open


I'm half tempted to wait for the next price crash/whatever so gpu prices drop and then set a big miner up at work just for the hell of it... idea being it'll never make any real money, but over a long term (years) might kick out some beer money
your right about beer money.... I spend the money on beer making equipment & ingredients for my grainfather!

Grainfather, separate thread required! Looks mint :cheers:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Dave on July 03, 2017, 01:02:27 AM
Whats all this ICO stuff about? Seems like some silly amounts are being raised, sounds like a great way to take some money off a load of chumps :D
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on July 03, 2017, 14:28:05 PM
Whats all this ICO stuff about? Seems like some silly amounts are being raised, sounds like a great way to take some money off a load of chumps :D

It is! Lots of questionable ICOs, wild west out there.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: DEViANCE on July 15, 2017, 18:15:44 PM
Noticed that bitcoin has taken a bit of  tumble over last couple of days. Down about 25% to 1500£.
 Worth an investment or is it likely to keep sliding?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on July 18, 2017, 22:49:22 PM
Noticed that bitcoin has taken a bit of  tumble over last couple of days. Down about 25% to 1500£.
 Worth an investment or is it likely to keep sliding?

It was definitely worth an investment, already back up over £1,800. But the next drop is about to start, not sure how big, but this bounce was so hard and so fast I fear it's a bull trap.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on July 25, 2017, 07:39:55 AM
http://www.phneep.com/projects/bitcoin-propaganda/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on July 26, 2017, 19:25:06 PM
Big news in the bitcoin world today. An arrest has been made in relation to the theft of Bitcoins from MTGox. It seems the suspect is strongly linked to the Russian bitcoin exchange BTC-e, which has been "down" for a few days.


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-greece-russia-arrest-idUSKBN1AB1OP

http://blog.wizsec.jp/2017/07/breaking-open-mtgox-1.html


Some suggestions are that outright BTC-e hacked MtGox. Never a dull moment in crypto.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on July 31, 2017, 21:14:15 PM
Tons of people have gone short, and it's crashing in the wrong direction


(http://wojdylosocialmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screen-Shot-2015-04-06-at-3.42.55-PM.png)

 :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 01, 2017, 22:37:07 PM
Tons of people have gone short, and it's crashing in the wrong direction


(http://wojdylosocialmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Screen-Shot-2015-04-06-at-3.42.55-PM.png)

 :lol:

Didn't/hasn't quite worked out like some thought.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 05, 2017, 08:15:55 AM
Knocking on $3,200 door.  :ptu:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 05, 2017, 19:14:06 PM
$3300 breached.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 07, 2017, 12:35:17 PM
$3400 in sight :P
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 07, 2017, 15:20:18 PM
$3400 in sight :P
$5k by the end of the someone somewhere was predicting... $1k for Ether.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 08, 2017, 08:29:52 AM
$3400 in sight :P
$5k by the end of the someone somewhere was predicting... $1k for Ether.

does $5k sound so unbelievable?  ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 08, 2017, 09:22:59 AM

does $5k sound so unbelievable?  ;)

Not unless Crypto starts to get regulated.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 08, 2017, 18:02:46 PM

does $5k sound so unbelievable?  ;)

Not unless Crypto starts to get regulated.

What sort of regulation are we talking about that doesn't already exist?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 09, 2017, 15:19:35 PM

does $5k sound so unbelievable?  ;)

Not unless Crypto starts to get regulated.

What sort of regulation are we talking about that doesn't already exist?

well if it is so popular on the darkweb & other illegal activities & transactions, I think at some point governments will want more access to the tracing things.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on August 10, 2017, 17:00:40 PM

well if it is so popular on the darkweb & other illegal activities & transactions, I think at some point governments will want more access to the tracing things.

It's the trading commodity of preference on the dark web, at least for the illegal stuff. It is extremely resistant to tracing. That is one reason it is so valuable at the moment.

There are supposed to be upgrades coming up to increase production, which may reduce profits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on August 10, 2017, 17:11:32 PM
It's weird one, by the nature of the tech every transaction on the network is completely traceable, it's just determining who owns what address :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 11, 2017, 17:27:52 PM
I only really care about one aspect of it. Easy easy money!!!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 13, 2017, 10:04:33 AM
Bloody hell, $4,200 in sight.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on August 13, 2017, 11:04:43 AM
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-broken-alleged-cryptocurrency-apos-103025693.html

Over 800 altcoins online? This is going to get a bit complex
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 13, 2017, 21:01:33 PM
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-broken-alleged-cryptocurrency-apos-103025693.html

Over 800 altcoins online? This is going to get a bit complex

Significantly more than that have existed or currently exist.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 16, 2017, 17:23:03 PM
Wow, some move by BTC today. Up 5~6% in 30~40 minutes depending on what exchange you look at.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 17, 2017, 08:43:57 AM
Wow, some move by BTC today. Up 5~6% in 30~40 minutes depending on what exchange you look at.

think I will wait it out for the dip before $5k :D
if it dips ???
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 17, 2017, 18:08:29 PM
Wow, some move by BTC today. Up 5~6% in 30~40 minutes depending on what exchange you look at.

think I will wait it out for the dip before $5k :D
if it dips ???

Right now is your dip.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 17, 2017, 19:10:55 PM
Wow, some move by BTC today. Up 5~6% in 30~40 minutes depending on what exchange you look at.

think I will wait it out for the dip before $5k :D
if it dips ???

Right now is your dip.

nope... $3700 or I wont bother :oD
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on August 17, 2017, 20:10:31 PM
Glad you're doing well trading, I'm still doing medium/long term analysis here http://backbit.co.uk/

Oh, and being as you're into trading check this out https://blog.veritaseum.com/

Hope you checked that out, $VERI up 33.51x from its April 25th initial sales price.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DCiTVTCXsAAZw5I.jpg)


IMO it's still worth spending a little time digging into http://veritas.veritaseum.com/ and looking into the credentials of Reggie Middleton and what the project entails.

IF he signs another big deal, it will rocket.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 17, 2017, 20:55:25 PM
Wow, some move by BTC today. Up 5~6% in 30~40 minutes depending on what exchange you look at.

think I will wait it out for the dip before $5k :D
if it dips ???

Right now is your dip.

nope... $3700 or I wont bother :oD

Good luck with that before Monday.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 18, 2017, 08:07:20 AM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 18, 2017, 08:19:00 AM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.

It won't. We'll see an ATH this weekend/Monday. Segwit will activate, and it'll then drop. Don't be surprised to see it come back a long way below $3.7k ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 18, 2017, 09:54:10 AM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.

It won't. We'll see an ATH this weekend/Monday. Segwit will activate, and it'll then drop. Don't be surprised to see it come back a long way below $3.7k ;)
segwit is why I am staying out. I am busy all weekend, so chances are Ill miss any selling windows.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 18, 2017, 11:27:29 AM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.

It won't. We'll see an ATH this weekend/Monday. Segwit will activate, and it'll then drop. Don't be surprised to see it come back a long way below $3.7k ;)
segwit is why I am staying out. I am busy all weekend, so chances are Ill miss any selling windows.

bummer.... If you didn't buy the dip last night, or the break out this morning you're too late, at least for today, especially if you can't watch it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 18, 2017, 14:00:14 PM

bummer.... If you didn't buy the dip last night, or the break out this morning you're too late, at least for today, especially if you can't watch it.
sold my house, so busy moving the last of my stuff out. lot more to lose if im not out by completion date!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 18, 2017, 17:40:27 PM

bummer.... If you didn't buy the dip last night, or the break out this morning you're too late, at least for today, especially if you can't watch it.
sold my house, so busy moving the last of my stuff out. lot more to lose if im not out by completion date!

Priorities :P
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Roshani.roy on August 21, 2017, 11:46:27 AM
I sold my bt and had just shy of $3000 in my MtGox account which I endeavored to evacuate for a month yet it wouldn't let me... :- (

I'll stick a claim in.... see what happens... question I'll get much

wouldn't have been so awful... in any case, my younger sibling had £1200 worth of bt he needed to offer... so i gave him money for them since i as of now had an approved dealers account!

Regards
Roshani
Associated with [ur=matt5cott - I BORKED THE URL BUT LEFT THE REST OF THE TEXT AS A HONOUR TO SKYNET[/url].
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 21, 2017, 15:00:39 PM
Eth moving!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on August 21, 2017, 15:06:05 PM
I sold my bt and had just shy of $3000 in my MtGox account which I endeavored to evacuate for a month yet it wouldn't let me... :- (

I'll stick a claim in.... see what happens... question I'll get much

wouldn't have been so awful... in any case, my younger sibling had £1200 worth of bt he needed to offer... so i gave him money for them since i as of now had an approved dealers account!

Regards

havn't seen a bot like this before - copied my earlier post and swapped a few words


skynet is coming
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Rivkid on August 21, 2017, 17:03:44 PM
I sold my bt and had just shy of $3000 in my MtGox account which I endeavored to evacuate for a month yet it wouldn't let me... :- (

I'll stick a claim in.... see what happens... question I'll get much

wouldn't have been so awful... in any case, my younger sibling had £1200 worth of bt he needed to offer... so i gave him money for them since i as of now had an approved dealers account!

Regards

havn't seen a bot like this before - copied my earlier post and swapped a few words


skynet is coming

Thats quite clever, they'll be stealing our wheels next...
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 21, 2017, 17:21:14 PM

skynet is coming

cant find it on xhamster
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on August 22, 2017, 09:05:02 AM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.

It won't. We'll see an ATH this weekend/Monday. Segwit will activate, and it'll then drop. Don't be surprised to see it come back a long way below $3.7k ;)

Bit earlier than you said as no seggy yet, but still,

(https://media.tenor.com/images/999da8e4f6d636f0eeace8fa45590287/tenor.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 22, 2017, 11:34:05 AM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.

It won't. We'll see an ATH this weekend/Monday. Segwit will activate, and it'll then drop. Don't be surprised to see it come back a long way below $3.7k ;)

Bit earlier than you said as no seggy yet, but still,

(https://media.tenor.com/images/999da8e4f6d636f0eeace8fa45590287/tenor.gif)

think its still trading a bit sideway. can break to $3500 as easy as $4500 for me. Just which way first before $5k.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 22, 2017, 18:43:43 PM


Good luck with that before Monday.
and thats is why I am waiting. It could break either way.

It won't. We'll see an ATH this weekend/Monday. Segwit will activate, and it'll then drop. Don't be surprised to see it come back a long way below $3.7k ;)

Bit earlier than you said as no seggy yet, but still,

(https://media.tenor.com/images/999da8e4f6d636f0eeace8fa45590287/tenor.gif)

LOL, I got it pretty wrong, I was VERY sure of ATH over the weekend, maybe $4600. It broke down out of its upward channel on Friday and we dropped every day since.

Hard bounce at $3600 today, hope you got in Egg???

Right now at $3980~$4000 it's right on the upper line of the downward trend since Friday. Either gonna drop BIG from here, or we go up.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 22, 2017, 18:53:57 PM
What i'm seeing right now....

(https://s2.postimg.org/dw0u9fnfd/btc_20170822.png)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 22, 2017, 19:30:01 PM
Well, we broke up. :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 22, 2017, 19:46:17 PM
Well, we broke up. :)

dont think we saw an all time high?
annoying thing is the market is driven by asia & usa. so we tend to miss the peaks & trough's.
Think the opportunity went to bitcoin cash before monday though
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 23, 2017, 08:25:50 AM
Well, we broke up. :)

dont think we saw an all time high?
annoying thing is the market is driven by asia & usa. so we tend to miss the peaks & trough's.
Think the opportunity went to bitcoin cash before monday though

We saw the ATH the previous weekend. Thought we'd get another last weekend. Now i'm not sure when it will come, but yesterday's bounce and breakout was pretty convincing we may see another ATH in the next week or two. Or it could be dump on segwit.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 23, 2017, 10:36:14 AM
Well, we broke up. :)

dont think we saw an all time high?
annoying thing is the market is driven by asia & usa. so we tend to miss the peaks & trough's.
Think the opportunity went to bitcoin cash before monday though

We saw the ATH the previous weekend. Thought we'd get another last weekend. Now i'm not sure when it will come, but yesterday's bounce and breakout was pretty convincing we may see another ATH in the next week or two. Or it could be dump on segwit.
yep, Still no clearer this week than last week & if segwit is priced in or not.
edit - oh I see I missed $3700 yesterday...
on the plus side... keys are in with the estate agent.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 23, 2017, 17:29:09 PM
You missed $3600 yesterday. :(

Here we are back over $4200. Shorters have been brutally rekt.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on August 24, 2017, 13:55:04 PM
Small update from me, I've steered clear of BTC mostly but have 90% ETH and 10% NEO/ANT.

Im not day trading at the moment but medium term Im bullish both.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 24, 2017, 17:08:04 PM
Small update from me, I've steered clear of BTC mostly but have 90% ETH and 10% NEO/ANT.

Im not day trading at the moment but medium term Im bullish both.

Why steer clear of BTC for ETH?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 25, 2017, 09:08:48 AM
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/24/asus_19_gpu_motherboard/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on August 25, 2017, 10:25:14 AM
Just dug out my old work phone, bought a round of drinks December 2014 on a night out at a pub accepting Bitcoin.

Current value £408, I hope it was a good round :cheers: :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 25, 2017, 17:24:18 PM
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/08/24/asus_19_gpu_motherboard/

Crazy huh?

Just dug out my old work phone, bought a round of drinks December 2014 on a night out at a pub accepting Bitcoin.

Current value £408, I hope it was a good round :cheers: :lol:

I assume you've heard the bitcoin pizza story?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on August 25, 2017, 19:41:59 PM
I'm shocked enough people are buying motherboards for mining that it's worth ASUS researching/designing/building etc. etc. a motherboard with mining in mind

I know there's server farms using gfx cards for actual work, but the layout of the board doesn't look like it would work well in a server case at all ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on August 25, 2017, 20:31:16 PM
I'm shocked enough people are buying motherboards for mining that it's worth ASUS researching/designing/building etc. etc. a motherboard with mining in mind

I know there's server farms using gfx cards for actual work, but the layout of the board doesn't look like it would work well in a server case at all ?
They dont use cases. Google images for bitcoin farm or ethereum farm


Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on August 25, 2017, 23:07:25 PM

Just dug out my old work phone, bought a round of drinks December 2014 on a night out at a pub accepting Bitcoin.

Current value £408, I hope it was a good round :cheers: :lol:

I assume you've heard the bitcoin pizza story?

Haha yep :lol: A year or so before this a mate paid me for a bottle of booze and 10KG bag of rice in BTC, it's even worse for that :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on August 28, 2017, 13:56:38 PM

Just dug out my old work phone, bought a round of drinks December 2014 on a night out at a pub accepting Bitcoin.

Current value £408, I hope it was a good round :cheers: :lol:

I assume you've heard the bitcoin pizza story?

Haha yep :lol: A year or so before this a mate paid me for a bottle of booze and 10KG bag of rice in BTC, it's even worse for that :lol: :lol: :lol:

Someone here sent me some (then) small amount of BTC free to pay a subscription because I was slightly short. Cant find the thread now unfortunately.

Ive steered clear of BTC because I dont believe the tech is fundamentally superior and dont foresee enough gain to justify the risk, but admittedly I thought it was overvalued from about $2000.

ETH on the other hand has great uptake, a better business model and much further to rise if it does take off.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on August 31, 2017, 19:24:29 PM
Everyone enjoying this runup to $5,000 ?   :w00t:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on August 31, 2017, 22:11:12 PM
I'm shocked enough people are buying motherboards for mining that it's worth ASUS researching/designing/building etc. etc. a motherboard with mining in mind

I know there's server farms using gfx cards for actual work, but the layout of the board doesn't look like it would work well in a server case at all ?
They dont use cases. Google images for bitcoin farm or ethereum farm

I meant proper server cases for proper server farms, where they're using gfx cards to build cheap super computers to predict the weather etc.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on September 01, 2017, 09:20:57 AM
Everyone enjoying this runup to $5,000 ?   :w00t:

As long as it keeps pumping up ETH price. I got my first elec bill since started mining  :rofl:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on September 01, 2017, 09:59:17 AM
Someone here sent me some (then) small amount of BTC free to pay a subscription because I was slightly short. Cant find the thread now unfortunately.

I remember reading this, I found the old BTC thread (which in itself makes for interesting reading) but it's not there http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/ might be in a newsgroups thread or something, as IIRC it was for that.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on September 01, 2017, 15:02:26 PM
Someone here sent me some (then) small amount of BTC free to pay a subscription because I was slightly short. Cant find the thread now unfortunately.

I remember reading this, I found the old BTC thread (which in itself makes for interesting reading) but it's not there http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/ (http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/) might be in a newsgroups thread or something, as IIRC it was for that.

http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/need-a-very-small-amount-of-bitcoin/msg200579/#msg200579 (http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/need-a-very-small-amount-of-bitcoin/msg200579/#msg200579)

He only wanted .035 bitcoin. Guess he owes Soopahfly £130  :rofl:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on September 04, 2017, 10:39:00 AM
Down down, deeper and down.

(https://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mahwwzFzej1r7lg8po1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: soopahfly on September 04, 2017, 13:10:36 PM
Someone here sent me some (then) small amount of BTC free to pay a subscription because I was slightly short. Cant find the thread now unfortunately.

I remember reading this, I found the old BTC thread (which in itself makes for interesting reading) but it's not there http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/ (http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/) might be in a newsgroups thread or something, as IIRC it was for that.

http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/need-a-very-small-amount-of-bitcoin/msg200579/#msg200579 (http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/need-a-very-small-amount-of-bitcoin/msg200579/#msg200579)

He only wanted .035 bitcoin. Guess he owes Soopahfly £130  :rofl:

I dread to think what I paid for my NZB subscription.  Or how much I had in my wallet when the site I used died.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on September 04, 2017, 13:51:52 PM
Someone here sent me some (then) small amount of BTC free to pay a subscription because I was slightly short. Cant find the thread now unfortunately.

I remember reading this, I found the old BTC thread (which in itself makes for interesting reading) but it's not there http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/ (http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/bitcoin-mining/) might be in a newsgroups thread or something, as IIRC it was for that.

http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/need-a-very-small-amount-of-bitcoin/msg200579/#msg200579 (http://www.tekforums.net/general-discussion/need-a-very-small-amount-of-bitcoin/msg200579/#msg200579)

He only wanted .035 bitcoin. Guess he owes Soopahfly £130  :rofl:

I dread to think what I paid for my NZB subscription.  Or how much I had in my wallet when the site I used died.
as long as you still have your wallet ID I think you can retrieve it?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on September 14, 2017, 13:41:10 PM
(https://d7hftxdivxxvm.cloudfront.net/?resize_to=width&src=https%3A%2F%2Fartsy-media-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com%2FPKgyR7sD-QYr8MlDAyW9bA%252F0.gif&width=1100&quality=95)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on September 14, 2017, 21:54:09 PM
(https://preview.ibb.co/ivGzKQ/noonelikedmytweetsadface.png) (https://ibb.co/ne2vtk)

Gutted no one liked my tweet. Called it "perfectly".
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on September 14, 2017, 22:14:15 PM
China trying to drag us lower. Chinese exchanges already at the equivalent of $3000
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on September 15, 2017, 08:15:28 AM
Where to buy next. Good for at least a bounce, before completion of a head and shoulder.

(https://preview.ibb.co/bVRiDk/bitcoinbuyzone.png) (https://ibb.co/k7PEKQ)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on September 15, 2017, 12:25:58 PM
did you sell in time ?


I stopped mining, might do a bit more now it's starting to get colder :-)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on September 15, 2017, 13:18:54 PM
did you sell in time ?


I stopped mining, might do a bit more now it's starting to get colder :-)

I was out as per my tweet in the image above. Minutes before the dump started.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on September 15, 2017, 13:45:40 PM
did you sell in time ?


I stopped mining, might do a bit more now it's starting to get colder :-)

I was out as per my tweet in the image above. Minutes before the dump started.

Well played :)

Stunning levels of short positions being liquidated on WhaleCalls in the last 10 mins.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on September 15, 2017, 13:53:24 PM
I'll mention VERI again, a demo with the Jamaican stock exchange is due to go live next week, they have a contract rental facility in beta and are in talks with major players.

If Reggie gets a second stock exchange or major player on board the potential is massive, DYOR as I'm not telling you to buy, but I'd take the time to get a feel for the project as this guy is just getting sh*t done, not spending hours hyping up PR bullcrap.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on September 15, 2017, 17:10:47 PM
Some supposed 'investment' companies were trying to hype bitcoin right up till the point it went dump. At least one was suggesting it could go up another 5000%. They still haven't stopped.

Investing in this sort of 'currency is very little different from gambling or buying shares.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on September 15, 2017, 18:08:05 PM
Some supposed 'investment' companies were trying to hype bitcoin right up till the point it went dump. At least one was suggesting it could go up another 5000%. They still haven't stopped.

Investing in this sort of 'currency is very little different from gambling or buying shares.

It's not gambling if you know how to do TA. It's gambling if you go into it blindly, don't do your research and "invest" because some investment company said so.

I hope you all bought the bottom.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: neXus on September 18, 2017, 02:13:08 AM
Some very interesting movements going on. The China ban is one of them.
My mate Jackson is back into things and has appeared in the NY times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/15/business/cryptocurrency-bubble-doge.html
He is becoming one of the big speakers in regard to shaping Bitcoin and its variations

Things will explode in one direction or another soon.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 10, 2017, 18:47:16 PM
Who's still riding the wave? Back over $4,900 today  :ptu:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 12, 2017, 09:57:07 AM
Ding ding ding. New ATH is in.

$5219 on Bitfinex this morning.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 12, 2017, 13:27:47 PM
Ding ding ding. New ATH is in.

$5219 on Bitfinex this morning.

The short burning on whalecalls today has been outrageous  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/VWr6I.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 12, 2017, 17:09:38 PM
Ding ding ding. New ATH is in.

$5219 on Bitfinex this morning.

The short burning on whalecalls today has been outrageous  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/VWr6I.gif)

Aye, I saw on OKCoin someone had 1,600,000+ short contracts liquidated.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 12, 2017, 17:42:22 PM
Ding ding ding. New ATH is in.

$5219 on Bitfinex this morning.

The short burning on whalecalls today has been outrageous  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/VWr6I.gif)

Aye, I saw on OKCoin someone had 1,600,000+ short contracts liquidated.  :o :o :o


Absolute carnage atm, good lord :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 12, 2017, 18:01:30 PM
Ding ding ding. New ATH is in.

$5219 on Bitfinex this morning.

The short burning on whalecalls today has been outrageous  :lol:

(http://i.imgur.com/VWr6I.gif)

Aye, I saw on OKCoin someone had 1,600,000+ short contracts liquidated.  :o :o :o


Absolute carnage atm, good lord :lol:

Sure is, but I'm out now. Had hoped for a dip to buy back in, but the fomo just continued  :'(
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 12, 2017, 21:19:29 PM
Don't you have a % in HODL?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on October 13, 2017, 08:29:14 AM
i still mine Eth.
Down to a 72hr turnaround for 1/20th.
Im finally in profit after my initial outlay.
Just holding/collecting for my summer holiday before caching in.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 13, 2017, 17:58:34 PM
Don't you have a % in HODL?

Nope, generally any bitcoin I have is in trade. I don't like loss, so unless I'm sure about its direction over night generally I will take profit. Never regret taking profit, always regret a loss.

Plus for much of the last 6 months, the two exchanges I've traded on have had a large price disparity. So I've alway been able to sell out on one and buy back cheaper later on on the other one. So in which case, no reason to hodl. It's only when there are are huge moves overnight like last night where it doesn't work.

Got some fine analysis coming up for you folks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 13, 2017, 18:33:22 PM
3 day MACD Chart for 2017.

I try to keep analysis simple, I look for easy patterns. I don't care much the real technical meaning behind it.

I put Bitcoin price action for the year in a somewhat obvious upward channel. Tops and bottoms seemingly perfectly in line.

Using the MACD indicator I have circled the starts of each period of "green" and the corresponding price point on the graph. As you can see, history this year shows that the start of a period of green for the MACD on a 3d graph is the start of a big run, with the peak coming 4~6 weeks later. The hope here is that the pattern repeats again and we touch the top of the channel again. This is around $6400 currently.

(https://preview.ibb.co/numgVb/bitcoin_3d_macd_20171013.png) (https://ibb.co/csvaqb)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 13, 2017, 18:36:58 PM
I have done similar on this graph, but using the StochRSI indicator.

As you can see, history shows that when the StochRSI is just below 80, the bull run has only started. The top is not in until we are near 100.

Let's hope history repeats again. Good luck.

(https://preview.ibb.co/eOCwVb/bitcoin_3d_stochrsi_20171013.png) (https://ibb.co/cLjX3w)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 13, 2017, 18:42:37 PM
But remember, we're talking 4~6 weeks for the potential top. We could definitely have some more bear action first.

So I'm not saying, put your house on it. This is just a possibility. There are others, which is why I also keep an eye on it and somewhat go along with the market at the time, even though i'm fairly sure we'll go much higher in weeks to come. Yes, you could say my trading style does not match my long term analysis, it doesn't. But that's me.  :rofl: I like to play the swings and make more long the way, helps reduce risk while you're at it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 13, 2017, 19:02:49 PM
Matt, are you in any of the Telegram bitcoin trade groups? Whalepool or Whaleclub?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on October 13, 2017, 20:11:22 PM
hmmm think I am in whalepool?
got linked to it via https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 13, 2017, 20:49:01 PM
Matt, are you in any of the Telegram bitcoin trade groups? Whalepool or Whaleclub?

Nah, being as I barely rank as a goldfish I just follow whalecalls on twitter :lol:

Dimon has slagged off Bitcoin again, maybe he's after another drop to up his position :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 13, 2017, 20:58:12 PM
We could definitely have some more bear action first.

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/d3/1c/79/d31c79d038af9f760f36c4ef171a79f0.jpg)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 14, 2017, 12:21:29 PM
Matt, are you in any of the Telegram bitcoin trade groups? Whalepool or Whaleclub?

Nah, being as I barely rank as a goldfish I just follow whalecalls on twitter :lol:

Dimon has slagged off Bitcoin again, maybe he's after another drop to up his position :lol:

come and join us

https://t.me/whalepoolbtc

http://telegram.whaleclub.io
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 15, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
Hopefully we just started our dip to $5200. Rekt some longs before we bounce back up to $6400.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 16, 2017, 21:52:29 PM
Support too strong at $5400, had to buy back in "early".

Could this be the next step?

(https://preview.ibb.co/d2jgWR/bitcoin_fractal_repeat_20171016.png) (https://ibb.co/mFYKJ6)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 20, 2017, 17:42:41 PM
What a fantastic day. Bitcoin broke $6000  :w00t:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 21, 2017, 00:31:20 AM
What a fantastic day. Bitcoin broke $6000  :w00t:

Many are claiming this bitcoin gold bollox (thus a fork) is responsible for the bull run, and that there will be a dumpy dumpy dump on split, as always I guess it remains to be seen!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 21, 2017, 08:54:44 AM
What a fantastic day. Bitcoin broke $6000  :w00t:

Many are claiming this bitcoin gold bollox (thus a fork) is responsible for the bull run, and that there will be a dumpy dumpy dump on split, as always I guess it remains to be seen!

The last fork ended up with the price going up..... For both forks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 30, 2017, 13:40:08 PM
Few scam accusation threads on bitcointalk moaning about CEX.IO Walrus, might be worth keeping an eye on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on October 30, 2017, 16:09:25 PM
Few scam accusation threads on bitcointalk moaning about CEX.IO Walrus, might be worth keeping an eye on.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

I've done a lot of trade with them in the last few months and although I've had a few issues, it's all been fine in the end.

That said, currently all my funds are elsewhere for entirely different reasons.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2331480.0 - Seems to be resolved for this guy too.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on October 30, 2017, 16:56:40 PM
is it worth me ploughing my Ether ive mined into BTC for the split?
Only about 3 ether.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on October 31, 2017, 14:42:35 PM
CMEGroup futures,
(https://33.media.tumblr.com/6dc6884f9494116fcf683d59b5179285/tumblr_ng4cvhNeFl1qigaa4o1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on October 31, 2017, 14:47:30 PM
(https://media.giphy.com/media/hqIaXesRGpP44/giphy.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 01, 2017, 17:09:21 PM
New ATH, $6620  :w00t:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 01, 2017, 18:36:16 PM
New ATH, $6620  :w00t:


"FILL HER UP PLEASE"

(side note, people rag on Octopussy way too much IMO)

Also https://www.coindesk.com/amazon-subsidiary-registers-3-cryptocurrency-web-domains/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 01, 2017, 20:44:55 PM
New ATH, $6620  :w00t:
(side note, people rag on Octopussy way too much IMO)

Not as much as AVTAK though.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 01, 2017, 22:01:11 PM
New ATH, $6620  :w00t:
(side note, people rag on Octopussy way too much IMO)

Not as much as AVTAK though.


"Ha ha ha, you amuse me Mr Bond"
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 02, 2017, 07:59:02 AM
Good morning $7000
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 02, 2017, 14:13:44 PM
Good morning $7000
triple 0 7
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: knighty on November 02, 2017, 18:25:15 PM
you still mining Will ?

I wasn't really into it, but figured I'd mine again in winter when the heat has a use... but set it going the other day and returns looked like next to nothing... was only trying to hit the 0.001 minimum on cex so I can sell them and cash out :-o

edit/p.s multiminer thing so it keeps mining most profitable coins and then auto-trading for bit coins
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: XEntity on November 02, 2017, 23:12:51 PM
This thread started at $175 In Jan 2015.. and now at $7k that's 40x increase in nearly 3 years..

Am I too late to get on the bandwagon?  :o

It's not likely to be 280k in another 3 years surely?  :w00t:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on November 03, 2017, 06:59:54 AM
Don't forget it has thouroughly sh*t its pants numerous times in that time frame. Matt and Will are basically trading in penny stocks with it, but they know what they are doing so that's fine.

I am still not tempted to get back into it, I only would if mining was simple again.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 03, 2017, 12:34:51 PM
you still mining Will ?

I wasn't really into it, but figured I'd mine again in winter when the heat has a use... but set it going the other day and returns looked like next to nothing... was only trying to hit the 0.001 minimum on cex so I can sell them and cash out :-o

edit/p.s multiminer thing so it keeps mining most profitable coins and then auto-trading for bit coins

Yes, but even 6 x 1080ti and 1x 1070 only makes me £15~ a day, and with leccy cost of £5.50~ it's not a lot of profit. I wouldn't recommend mining to anyone that doesn't already have the hardware.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 03, 2017, 12:35:06 PM
Don't forget it has thouroughly sh*t its pants numerous times in that time frame.

Retrace  :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 03, 2017, 14:29:37 PM
you still mining Will ?

I wasn't really into it, but figured I'd mine again in winter when the heat has a use... but set it going the other day and returns looked like next to nothing... was only trying to hit the 0.001 minimum on cex so I can sell them and cash out :-o

edit/p.s multiminer thing so it keeps mining most profitable coins and then auto-trading for bit coins

Yes, but even 6 x 1080ti and 1x 1070 only makes me £15~ a day, and with leccy cost of £5.50~ it's not a lot of profit. I wouldn't recommend mining to anyone that doesn't already have the hardware.

Ive been mining ETH for a few months. Difficulty has doubled since June (not sure when you last mined).
So unless you are investing your earnings into more rigs, faster cards, etc. it comes to the point where its not worthwhile... unless your doing for the sake of ETH doing a 'bitcoin' in value.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 05, 2017, 11:53:03 AM
$7600 incoming.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 06, 2017, 18:10:12 PM
$7600 incoming.

Looks like $7598 was the top on Bitfinex. Managed to sell some over £5900 on Cex.io :D
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 08, 2017, 18:07:13 PM
Rumours of Segwit2x fork being called off, BTC goes ape sh*t and hits $7900.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 09, 2017, 18:01:20 PM
That was some fun and games yesterday, up $500 and down $900 in 100~ minutes  :muttley:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 10, 2017, 20:38:46 PM
See you all back at $6k this weekend.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 11, 2017, 13:33:28 PM
Good chance we go back to the low $4k region in the coming 2~3 weeks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 15, 2017, 07:45:32 AM
so has the fork been cancelled or not?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 16, 2017, 08:33:12 AM
Segwit2x was cancelled.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 16, 2017, 09:34:09 AM
Segwit2x was cancelled.

just sold my .06 holding for $430 ish.
Not bad as it was $270 Eth I had mined.
Thats 2x nights paid for in my SF trip next year!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 16, 2017, 11:18:34 AM
Segwit2x was cancelled.

just sold my .06 holding for $430 ish.
Not bad as it was $270 Eth I had mined.
Thats 2x nights paid for in my SF trip next year!

Risky going all out IMO, always leave some skin in the game.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 16, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
Segwit2x was cancelled.

just sold my .06 holding for $430 ish.
Not bad as it was $270 Eth I had mined.
Thats 2x nights paid for in my SF trip next year!

Risky going all out IMO, always leave some skin in the game.

nope, its all towards my holiday fund. 2 nights paid for.... 14 to go!
Must start recylcing my credit cards for points/hotel rewards.
Already got business class travel with miles upgraded :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 16, 2017, 18:48:24 PM
Haha fair enough Egg, sounds like one hell of a trip! Nothing wrong with taking a profit but I really do see 0% exposure to BTC as a bad idea!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 17, 2017, 08:38:42 AM
Haha fair enough Egg, sounds like one hell of a trip! Nothing wrong with taking a profit but I really do see 0% exposure to BTC as a bad idea!
Napa, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, SF
Providing I survive winter ski trip!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 17, 2017, 16:02:34 PM
See you all back at $6k this weekend.

$8k gone - would take some fall!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 20, 2017, 13:47:24 PM
See you all back at $6k this weekend.

$8k gone - would take some fall!

Everything is possible.

(https://s3.amazonaws.com/main-newsbtc-images/2014/08/bitcoin-roller-coaster-1.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 20, 2017, 16:22:17 PM
See you all back at $6k this weekend.

$8k gone - would take some fall!

Bottom of the channel is still $4500~, we're currently banging right off the top again.

Remember the bear market of 2014, $1175~ to $160. 7.5x drop.

A drop from here, 50% fib is $4600~

All higher time frame indicators say overbought, should go down. Price action goes against that though, so who knows?

Disclosure, I've shorted half a bitcoin up here.....
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 23, 2017, 14:48:29 PM
New ath for eth
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 23, 2017, 16:16:05 PM
New ath for eth

Yep, quite a strong push....
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 24, 2017, 15:49:52 PM
$450+ !
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 25, 2017, 14:49:48 PM
New BTC ATH today, $8679.... Broke above the upper line of the channel it's been in. Could be the push to $10k coming up.

$10k at Christmas anyone????  :-\
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on November 26, 2017, 06:48:38 AM
well.. $9k has gone!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 26, 2017, 17:07:08 PM
At this rate we might see $10k in a few days, maybe even today!!! lol
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 28, 2017, 23:12:30 PM
http://www.altcointoday.com/12-6m-viewers-will-hear-bitcoin-watching-big-bang-theory/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 29, 2017, 18:22:55 PM
I wonder if that was the top today. $11441 on bitfinex. Went as high as $11900 on cex.io
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on November 29, 2017, 19:07:47 PM
I wonder if that was the top today. $11441 on bitfinex. Went as high as $11900 on cex.io

https://www.wsj.com/articles/nasdaq-plans-to-launch-bitcoin-futures-in-first-half-2018-1511968313


We'll see.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on November 29, 2017, 20:15:36 PM
Yep, it was the top. Already back to the $9000s. good bounce so far.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 06, 2017, 22:52:26 PM
It's gone nuts. Over $14,600 on some exchanges.  :o
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on December 07, 2017, 07:18:13 AM
It's gone nuts. Over $14,600 on some exchanges.  :o
hope you closed your short  :ptu:
Bitcoin! the currency for when WW3 starts
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on December 07, 2017, 10:52:22 AM
$1500 smashed!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 07, 2017, 11:04:41 AM
This is insane.

It remains to be seen if this is a massive adoption curve or a bubble, or both.

Lightning network testing last night another feather in the BTC cap.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on December 07, 2017, 13:33:41 PM
Isnt BTC tech just terrible compared to the proven alternatives?

I cant get my head around it, transaction fees are ridiculous, mining return is low, functionality is non existent. I cant see a real world use for it over ETH (or many others).

I'm happy as its good for crypto exposure in general (not that any other coin is tracking BTC price) but it feels like its speculative money rather than educated tech backing, which means if it goes crash it could fall hard.

Of course I'm also bitter that ive have the same opinion since it hit $1000 and didnt put any money in ...
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 07, 2017, 19:05:40 PM
Crazy day. Went all the way to $19.6k on Coinbase! CC FOMO consumer front end. doh  :o
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 07, 2017, 19:06:29 PM
It's gone nuts. Over $14,600 on some exchanges.  :o
hope you closed your short  :ptu:
Bitcoin! the currency for when WW3 starts

I did, all gravy :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 10, 2017, 08:34:26 AM
So here's a couple of questions...it's bitcoin in the media as much as it is in NZ? Seems there's at least one new article each day.

Next question is, where's the best place to start. I kind of feel now that yes I missed the train, but that there'd be no harm in giving it a punt with maybe $100-200 and just seeing what happens, if such low amounts are possible.

I understand the basics that mining involved etc, but I figure my hardware won't do much, I also get that there's trading, but obviously don't know where to go in terms of sites you guys trust...
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 10, 2017, 09:29:28 AM
So here's a couple of questions...it's bitcoin in the media as much as it is in NZ? Seems there's at least one new article each day.

Next question is, where's the best place to start. I kind of feel now that yes I missed the train, but that there'd be no harm in giving it a punt with maybe $100-200 and just seeing what happens, if such low amounts are possible.

I understand the basics that mining involved etc, but I figure my hardware won't do much, I also get that there's trading, but obviously don't know where to go in terms of sites you guys trust...

What do you mean by "it's bitcoin in the media as much as it is in NZ?", did you mean "is bitcoin in the media as much as it is in NZ?", yes it is, everywhere.....

You didn't miss the boat, people said the same when it went to $250, then it crashed back to $60. They also said the same when it was $1200 before it crashed back to $200, look at it now.

Yes, it will crash again, I'm sure it will, you could even say the crash has already started.... At least I hope this is the start of the crash and not just a pullback. When it has bottomed out would be a good time to make a longer term investment. Might take some time to bottom out though, and maybe I'm wrong....

Assuming you are in NZ, then ideally you need to find an exchange you can transfer money onto so you can buy. Where are you?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 10, 2017, 10:27:10 AM
We're in NZ. Yeah I meant "is" rather than "it's"...I typed that on my phone and autocorrect struck...
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 10, 2017, 13:10:59 PM

Ronnie says HODL
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 11, 2017, 15:44:22 PM
One problem is there are lots of companies and people trying to get others to invest their savings in bitcoin as if it was a good option. Some of them are very shady indeed. Ran into one a few days ago advertising on facebook, using a fake BBC page. This would partly explain why it has gone up so fast.

The main problem at the moment is the limit of production. If they solve that or if the market really does collapse then a lot of people will lose.

If you want to get involved it's probably more sensible in building a swanky new processing computer and start making bitcoin yourself.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 11, 2017, 16:21:18 PM
One problem is there are lots of companies and people trying to get others to invest their savings in bitcoin as if it was a good option. Some of them are very shady indeed. Ran into one a few days ago advertising on facebook, using a fake BBC page. This would partly explain why it has gone up so fast.

Very true, own research required.

The main problem at the moment is the limit of production.

That's not a problem.

If you want to get involved it's probably more sensible in building a swanky new processing computer and start making bitcoin yourself.

Several years too late fella, all ASICs now, you can still mine some alts mind.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 11, 2017, 19:50:25 PM
The problem for me is we don't have the money to make a rig, but could afford to lose a couple hundred dollars.

I know that kind of suggests we're better off not risking anything, but at the same time I feel I'd regret not doing anything if I don't do something soon!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 11, 2017, 20:05:55 PM
The problem for me is we don't have the money to make a rig, but could afford to lose a couple hundred dollars.

I know that kind of suggests we're better off not risking anything, but at the same time I feel I'd regret not doing anything if I don't do something soon!

You've answered your own question - you can't afford to lose much, and the only reason you want to invest is because you're scared you'll be spiteful if it goes to $1m a coin and you've missed out. Isn't that the very definition of a speculation - when you invest simply because you keep reading about how something keeps going up and everyone else is making a fortune?

On the other hand if you want to invest because you a bitliever (see what I did there?) then go ahead, you won't panic sell on a drop and you'll hold for the long long term.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 11, 2017, 22:18:17 PM
I believe it hear for the long run. I've dabbled in shares with mixed success, so it's probably speculation and part investment. I've just registered with coinbase which I guess is a first step, next will be finding the exchanges that are most suitable for me?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 11, 2017, 23:20:24 PM
I believe it hear for the long run. I've dabbled in shares with mixed success, so it's probably speculation and part investment. I've just registered with coinbase which I guess is a first step, next will be finding the exchanges that are most suitable for me?

Do think on why you're buying in. People like Will are traders and make money regardless of the long term by trading on swings of the price. Other people are totally sold on the technology and believe that crypto will replace (what they call) fiat. If you do buy in, buy in tranches in case it dips.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 12, 2017, 08:40:56 AM
If you do buy in, buy in tranches in case it dips.

This, average out your entry point over days/weeks/months/whatever unless you're entirely apathetic about short/medium term movement.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 12, 2017, 18:22:19 PM
At the moment I'm just trying to find a wallet that is supported in NZ that doesn't look like a scam :/

Then it's the exchanges...and then I need to decide whether it's worth buying small amounts as I'm getting the impression some fees can be extortionate...
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 12, 2017, 18:40:25 PM
I don't know any NZ exchanges other than cryptopia, but I don't think they have FIAT markets.

Your best bet may well be an international exchange like Bitfinex, Bitstamp, Cex.io or Coinbase. You'd have to do a USD deposit to any of them. You can also us credit or debit cards on Bitstamp, Cex.io or Coinbase, but beware of fees.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 12, 2017, 19:13:36 PM
I recommended this a few pages back,

https://localbitcoins.com/

Are an escrow service and have been around for ages.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 12, 2017, 23:20:03 PM

The main problem at the moment is the limit of production.

That's not a problem.



The maximum bitcoin production is 3,600 bitcoins a day. Surprisingly that is built in to the system. They need to make some big changes to improve that limit.

If they don't then we hit max Bitcoin...

"The total number of bitcoins in circulation currently stands at 16.7 million, which will continue to rise until it reaches 21 million - the total supply set by the currency's rules."

Quote from link below. An interesting article from BBC, how much electricity does it need to make Bitcoin? Seemingly quite a bit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42265728
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 12, 2017, 23:42:54 PM

The main problem at the moment is the limit of production.

That's not a problem.



The maximum bitcoin production is 3,600 bitcoins a day. Surprisingly that is built in to the system. They need to make some big changes to improve that limit.

If they don't then we hit max Bitcoin...

"The total number of bitcoins in circulation currently stands at 16.7 million, which will continue to rise until it reaches 21 million - the total supply set by the currency's rules."


So?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2017, 00:44:46 AM

The main problem at the moment is the limit of production.

That's not a problem.



The maximum bitcoin production is 3,600 bitcoins a day. Surprisingly that is built in to the system. They need to make some big changes to improve that limit.

If they don't then we hit max Bitcoin...

"The total number of bitcoins in circulation currently stands at 16.7 million, which will continue to rise until it reaches 21 million - the total supply set by the currency's rules."


So?

Although it's often touted as a benefit, capping supply is an issue, because it is likely to ultimately lead to deflation. Although some people will claim that governments being able to print money is a bad thing (and in scenarios like QE I think it is), increasing M2 is one tool used to encourge inflation. And inflation is hugely important in maintaining the economy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decade_(Japan) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Decade_(Japan))

There's many awesome things about blockchain. Capping supply is not one of them.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 02:29:08 AM

The main problem at the moment is the limit of production.

That's not a problem.



The maximum bitcoin production is 3,600 bitcoins a day. Surprisingly that is built in to the system. They need to make some big changes to improve that limit.

If they don't then we hit max Bitcoin...

"The total number of bitcoins in circulation currently stands at 16.7 million, which will continue to rise until it reaches 21 million - the total supply set by the currency's rules."


So?
There's many awesome things about blockchain. Capping supply is not one of them.

I think this is an argument for them to have nearer 2140  :P
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 13, 2017, 06:46:31 AM
Well I'm trying to get verified with https://nzbcx.com :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on December 13, 2017, 07:01:28 AM
Ethereum has had a big jump!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 13:13:59 PM
Ethereum has had a big jump!

Sure has, ruing selling the near 1,000 I mined mostly under $20  :'(
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 13, 2017, 14:20:40 PM
Ethereum has had a big jump!

Sure has, ruing selling the near 1,000 I mined mostly under $20  :'(

At least you're not alone, pretty much everyone has a shoulda woulda coulda story like that mate :-[


Ask(s) (Sell)
Order Filled at: Wed 13 Jun 2012 04:14:50 PM GMT
    Amount: 26.62662695 BTC
    Price: @$5.90000
    Total: $157.09710


You were right once and you'll be right again. Well, that's what I tell myself :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 15:24:58 PM
Ethereum has had a big jump!

Sure has, ruing selling the near 1,000 I mined mostly under $20  :'(

At least you're not alone, pretty much everyone has a shoulda woulda coulda story like that mate :-[


Ask(s) (Sell)
Order Filled at: Wed 13 Jun 2012 04:14:50 PM GMT
    Amount: 26.62662695 BTC
    Price: @$5.90000
    Total: $157.09710


You were right once and you'll be right again. Well, that's what I tell myself :lol:

That one of your sell orders?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 13, 2017, 15:51:06 PM
Ethereum has had a big jump!

Sure has, ruing selling the near 1,000 I mined mostly under $20  :'(

At least you're not alone, pretty much everyone has a shoulda woulda coulda story like that mate :-[


Ask(s) (Sell)
Order Filled at: Wed 13 Jun 2012 04:14:50 PM GMT
    Amount: 26.62662695 BTC
    Price: @$5.90000
    Total: $157.09710


You were right once and you'll be right again. Well, that's what I tell myself :lol:

That one of your sell orders?

Aye, was pretty much the lot as I was moving house, it was a tough time and I needed money  :-X

There's always another opportunity in this space though, I learned the lesson (never go all out of BTC) and just got back on the horse.

I've read some horrible threads on reddit about people having killed themselves over similar, tbh at times I could see why, but you have to push on.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on December 13, 2017, 18:53:23 PM
Back when we were mining I sold my BTC for pittance, that's why I can't be arsed now, not willing to spend the time on it (especially when its a lot wilder now and unprofitable in mining). Getting richer by other means, just not as quick.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2017, 20:46:54 PM
Ethereum has had a big jump!

Sure has, ruing selling the near 1,000 I mined mostly under $20  :'(

Why would you kick yourself. Say you made $15,000 out of it that's fantastic. House deposit. Would you have rather the price collapsed before you sold. FOMO is such a strong emotion. If it's any consolation you've made more out of bitcoin than I ever will as I think it's a total load of bollocks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2017, 20:47:54 PM
I think this is an argument for them to have nearer 2140  :P

I disagree. Since it's used as an argument why bitcoin is better than alternatives, it's worth pointing it's not a good argument.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 20:51:55 PM
Ethereum has had a big jump!

Sure has, ruing selling the near 1,000 I mined mostly under $20  :'(

Why would you kick yourself. Say you made $15,000 out of it that's fantastic. House deposit. Would you have rather the price collapsed before you sold. FOMO is such a strong emotion. If it's any consolation you've made more out of bitcoin than I ever will as I think it's a total load of bollocks.

I mostly kick myself because in the new year I said to a close friend I was going to hold what I mined from that point on. I didn't follow through on that. I didn't need to sell what I was mining at that point. I'd mostly paid off the cost of the hardware that I had.

Yes, I made good money from it, but I didn't make £0.5m, or even the realistic £100k I would have made had I actually listened to myself. I already had a house, a good job, no money worries etc.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 20:53:06 PM
I think this is an argument for them to have nearer 2140  :P

I disagree. Since it's used as an argument why bitcoin is better than alternatives, it's worth pointing it's not a good argument.

I'm not fussed either way on it. I've read a lot of the arguments for and against. It is what it is.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2017, 20:58:24 PM
I'm not fussed either way on it. I've read a lot of the arguments for and against. It is what it is.

There's not a single good argument I've read in favour (bitcoin). That IOTA looks alright though, I think.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2017, 21:02:08 PM
I mostly kick myself because in the new year I said to a close friend I was going to hold what I mined from that point on. I didn't follow through on that. I didn't need to sell what I was mining at that point. I'd mostly paid off the cost of the hardware that I had.

Yes, I made good money from it, but I didn't make £0.5m, or even the realistic £100k I would have made had I actually listened to myself. I already had a house, a good job, no money worries etc.

But money in the bank is money in the bank. Could be $0 tomorrow. Will be at some point. You won't regret all the profit you've made when people who held on to everything made nothing. I don't tend to think about how much I could have made. I had apple at $80 a share in 2009. What's it now, $1200 pre-split price? No one knows what's going to happen and in the same situation you'd do the same thing again - and rightly so, because these kinds of things are one offs.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 22:49:55 PM
I mostly kick myself because in the new year I said to a close friend I was going to hold what I mined from that point on. I didn't follow through on that. I didn't need to sell what I was mining at that point. I'd mostly paid off the cost of the hardware that I had.

Yes, I made good money from it, but I didn't make £0.5m, or even the realistic £100k I would have made had I actually listened to myself. I already had a house, a good job, no money worries etc.

But money in the bank is money in the bank. Could be $0 tomorrow. Will be at some point. You won't regret all the profit you've made when people who held on to everything made nothing. I don't tend to think about how much I could have made. I had apple at $80 a share in 2009. What's it now, $1200 pre-split price? No one knows what's going to happen and in the same situation you'd do the same thing again - and rightly so, because these kinds of things are one offs.

It's fine, it's done, can't change the past. I've moved on and sticking to what I do well. But still, I can kick myself for not taking my own advice when really I reached a point where I didn't need to sell.

It is important to reflect on what could have been, it helps you see where you went wrong. How you can improve. I always strive to be the best I can and to win, it's the only way I know how to be. Never give up on believing you can do it better. I could have read the situation better and I definitely could have traded better throughout the year. If you don't try to be better you just get worse.

I'm not fussed either way on it. I've read a lot of the arguments for and against. It is what it is.

There's not a single good argument I've read in favour (bitcoin). That IOTA looks alright though, I think.

Personally I think the only valid argument for Bitcoin having a limited supply is that it's a good way for traders and holders to remind others about it's "scarce" supply and that is what will help it gain value.

Basically, it's some good news spin for traders and early investors to make the price go higher.

But as I said, I don't really care either way.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 13, 2017, 23:09:11 PM
Really hoping we get a crossover of the MACD on the 12hr, should see us retest $13,000 in the next day or two. StochRSI has crossed over on the 12hr, suggests more down.

Then hoping there is enough momentum for a MACD crossover on the 1 day followed by the 3 day. 3 day StochRSI hasn't reset properly since July. Been far too long since we had a good pullback.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 13, 2017, 23:21:16 PM
Really hoping we get a crossover of the MACD on the 12hr, should see us retest $13,000 in the next day or two. StochRSI has crossed over on the 12hr, suggests more down.

Then hoping there is enough momentum for a MACD crossover on the 1 day followed by the 3 day. 3 day StochRSI hasn't reset properly since July. Been far too long since we had a good pullback.

I think fundamentals and TA are out of the window at this point, at least until the market returns to some normality.
We're just in the biggest bull run of all time. I trade SP futures and all they know how to do is go up, just like bitcoin, but with less risk (in that there's some fundamental value to stocks). You should try that in addition to your crypto trading, same principals, another opportunity.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on December 14, 2017, 02:54:41 AM
NEO still looks very undervalued to me, sold half my eth yesterday to buy NEO, 25% rise in NEO today so its finally borken its 4 month stagnation.

I think its been struggling to shake its China association but might finally have managed it.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 14, 2017, 08:05:05 AM
Really hoping we get a crossover of the MACD on the 12hr, should see us retest $13,000 in the next day or two. StochRSI has crossed over on the 12hr, suggests more down.

Then hoping there is enough momentum for a MACD crossover on the 1 day followed by the 3 day. 3 day StochRSI hasn't reset properly since July. Been far too long since we had a good pullback.

I think fundamentals and TA are out of the window at this point, at least until the market returns to some normality.
We're just in the biggest bull run of all time. I trade SP futures and all they know how to do is go up, just like bitcoin, but with less risk (in that there's some fundamental value to stocks). You should try that in addition to your crypto trading, same principals, another opportunity.

We'll see, it's testing the top of the downward channel it appeared to be in.

EDIT: Broken out, going to retest to top again today by the looks of things.

EDIT2: Dropped back in, could have been a fake out. Drop could still be on......
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 14, 2017, 15:28:52 PM
12hr MACD crossed over, still in the downward channel. Let's hope we get a good drop this weekend.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 15, 2017, 09:22:54 AM
12hr MACD crossed over, still in the downward channel. Let's hope we get a good drop this weekend.

So much for that, broke out of channel and went straight to ATH  :D Honey Badger don't care.  :'(
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 15, 2017, 11:02:43 AM
12hr MACD crossed over, still in the downward channel. Let's hope we get a good drop this weekend.

So much for that, broke out of channel and went straight to ATH  :D Honey Badger don't care.  :'(

(https://tuxcanfly.me/images/bitcoin-works.gif)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 16, 2017, 19:10:26 PM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 17, 2017, 09:41:04 AM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?

too late, already exists - http://tekcoin.org/
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 17, 2017, 10:43:06 AM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?

too late, already exists - http://tekcoin.org/

Beaten to it by nige :(
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 18, 2017, 14:14:14 PM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?

too late, already exists - http://tekcoin.org/

Beaten to it by nige :(

Did you expect anything less?

All the Tekforums Bitcoin millionaires out there please give generously to the keepseriousinpocket.con fund. A large donation will guarantee I will rain good vibes on your wealth ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on December 18, 2017, 17:43:01 PM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?

too late, already exists - http://tekcoin.org/

Beaten to it by nige :(

That's about the quality of my frontend work these days :thumbup:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 19, 2017, 13:49:30 PM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?

too late, already exists - http://tekcoin.org/

Beaten to it by nige :(

That's about the quality of my frontend work these days :thumbup:

You're right, it's a bit too advanced for you.

Will the real author of tekcoin please stand up.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: soopahfly on December 19, 2017, 16:28:33 PM
So when are we launching tekcoin ?

too late, already exists - http://tekcoin.org/

Beaten to it by nige :(

That's about the quality of my frontend work these days :thumbup:

You're right, it's a bit too advanced for you.

Will the real author of tekcoin please stand up.

Ah, the good old days of Sam's "F*ckdates"  :rofl:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 19, 2017, 16:38:51 PM
It was Rob who coined that wasn't it ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on December 19, 2017, 17:48:23 PM
Yeah, colour blind Rob, or Blinky as Steve would call him  :lol:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: soopahfly on December 19, 2017, 22:28:25 PM
I thought it was earlier than that, I thought it was John?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 20, 2017, 23:48:09 PM
Maybe it was. But I remember Steve and Rob thought used to bang on about it a lot :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on December 21, 2017, 14:29:39 PM
Was looking at this classic graph depicting stages of a bubble today:

(http://fixwillpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/bubble.jpg)


Then comparing it to bitcoin market cap over the last 12 months. The similarities are pretty scary.

(https://i.imgur.com/BfB5YCF.png)



Personally i've been getting all my ducks in order for a quick exit, avoiding USDT where possible.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 21, 2017, 20:53:01 PM

It's sure taking a beating the last few days.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 22, 2017, 07:21:20 AM
I hope Zypder didn't buy in at the ATH.

Where's the bottom going to be Will?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 22, 2017, 07:49:47 AM
As soon as I posted it added $1000 lol. I _CREATE_ the bottom.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 22, 2017, 15:06:42 PM
I be a lot of people got burned badly, was obviously going to happen sooner or later. As I have said, Bitcoin is too volatile for a currency. There are also a lot of new block chain commodities being created by con artists simply to try to cheat people out of their money.

Block chain still has a long way to go before it can replace the dollar or euro.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42457983
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: DEViANCE on December 22, 2017, 18:17:13 PM
How low is it likely to go? Good time to jump on?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 22, 2017, 21:13:47 PM
I hope Zypder didn't buy in at the ATH.

Where's the bottom going to be Will?

Don't like to call an absolute bottom really. There are several potential bottoms. But a "return to norm" would yield $3000 in 6 months time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on December 23, 2017, 00:25:37 AM
Drop to $3k ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 23, 2017, 01:17:52 AM
In theory it could drop below $5K, possibly as low as 3. It depends on the buyers and their loss of belief in Bitcoin.

A lot of the problem was caused through 'investment' companies, some would claim rip off merchants, encouraging people to get involved with something they did not understand.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on December 23, 2017, 04:22:27 AM
3 / 5 of my las uber drivers have asked me about bitcoin.

Snapchat has adverts by buzzfeed recommending putting $50 into bitcoin using coinbase.

USDT looks increasingly like a scam that will crash with bitcoin and there's a lot of margin trading driving the price up.

I'm out of everything except NEO and Eth for now and what I have in there i'm willing to lose.

I think cryptos are fantastic but I think all corporates are going to setup and use their own proprietary ones. There's no upside in using one they cant control. The oil companies have setup a group to establish a token for commodity trading, the banks have been doing something similar for a while.

I cant see why any of the current coins will maintain much long term value.

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 24, 2017, 09:00:14 AM
Drop to $3k ?

Yes, there is a possibility based on TA. It only takes BTC to enter a proper bear trend like it did in 2014. It might just take a bit of fuel to burn the house down.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: zpyder on December 25, 2017, 22:15:35 PM
I hope Zypder didn't buy in at the ATH.

Where's the bottom going to be Will?

I'm still waiting for my exchange account to be verified so I'm safe haha.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 29, 2017, 17:03:36 PM
Exmo Bitcoin exchange manager Pavel Lerner kidnapped in Kiev

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-42505261

Apparently... "Despite the situation the exchange is working as usual. We also want to stress that nature of Pavel's job at Exmo doesn't assume access either to storages or any personal data of users. All users' funds are absolutely safe."

<presses 'panic now!' button>  :o :panic:  :o :panic:  :yarr:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on December 30, 2017, 16:57:05 PM
Was looking at this classic graph depicting stages of a bubble today:

(http://fixwillpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/bubble.jpg)


Then comparing it to bitcoin market cap over the last 12 months. The similarities are pretty scary.

(https://i.imgur.com/BfB5YCF.png)



Personally i've been getting all my ducks in order for a quick exit, avoiding USDT where possible.

The bull trap happened, looks like Fear is about to come.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on January 10, 2018, 22:50:03 PM
When is the fear going to come on Ether lol

That thing's gone mental.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on January 11, 2018, 08:40:48 AM
When is the fear going to come on Ether lol

That thing's gone mental.
I think people sell BTC for ETH rather than cash!
Trippled in a month. Tempted to sell my mined coins.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 11, 2018, 08:44:32 AM
When is the fear going to come on Ether lol

That thing's gone mental.
I think people sell BTC for ETH rather than cash!
Trippled in a month. Tempted to sell my mined coins.

I agree with this, lots of slosh into whatever the current flavour of the month is.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Mark on January 12, 2018, 00:02:26 AM
i feel sick every time cryptocurrency is mentioned. Back in 2017 I took a healthy redundancy from Euronext and after buying the skyline I was going to put a sizeable chunk into ethereum based on what someone I knew from the exchange told me, but I couldn't get the stupid exchange app to recognise my passport so just gave up and said to myself sure it'll never go more than 5%.

I worked out a few weeks ago that my investment would now be worth about 700k.  :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag:
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 12, 2018, 13:45:59 PM
i feel sick every time cryptocurrency is mentioned. Back in 2017 I took a healthy redundancy from Euronext and after buying the skyline I was going to put a sizeable chunk into ethereum based on what someone I knew from the exchange told me, but I couldn't get the stupid exchange app to recognise my passport so just gave up and said to myself sure it'll never go more than 5%.

I worked out a few weeks ago that my investment would now be worth about 700k.  :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag: :gag:

I was disgusted at the Ethereum team rolling back the blockchain to bail themselves out of "The DAO" disaster so sold out what little I had and put it into Ethereum classic, which long term wasn't the best idea  :lol: :gag:

I still stick by the decision though, what they did goes against the entire point of it existing.


Oh, and there are still tons of opportunities in the space, I've "missed the boat" about 3 times myself due to having very little money, all life changers :roll: But there will be more, there always is.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: DEViANCE on January 16, 2018, 08:30:10 AM
Everything is tumbling today!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 16, 2018, 08:47:57 AM
Everything is tumbling today!

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/f2889ff527580e5ec5da514d21c3d66f/tumblr_ncxfxssJgM1tajjsfo1_400.gif)

Yes the house is on fire, seas of red!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on January 16, 2018, 16:12:52 PM
Ether couldn't give a f**k. Goes up 200000% then drop 20%.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 16, 2018, 21:57:30 PM
When is the fear going to come on Ether lol

That thing's gone mental.

Who knows, but fear is here with BTC :)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on January 17, 2018, 00:31:13 AM
Was looking at this classic graph depicting stages of a bubble today:

(http://fixwillpower.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/bubble.jpg)


Then comparing it to bitcoin market cap over the last 12 months. The similarities are pretty scary.

(https://i.imgur.com/BfB5YCF.png)


Feels like we now have a bit more of this pattern visible ...

Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: neXus on January 18, 2018, 00:07:55 AM
Well its on the way down, it may do that recovery and then nose dive again.
You got big companies just announcing they are setting up their own coin and as more decide to do so it will just crash soon.

I laughed at the Kodak and KPOP announcements.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: neXus on January 18, 2018, 00:22:33 AM
Well: https://slate.com/technology/2018/01/the-most-important-blockchain-conference-of-the-year-wont-take-bitcoin-for-last-minute-sales.html
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on January 18, 2018, 19:52:19 PM
Well its on the way down, it may do that recovery and then nose dive again.
You got big companies just announcing they are setting up their own coin and as more decide to do so it will just crash soon.

Don't be so sure about that ;)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on January 25, 2018, 06:30:49 AM
what new ways are the to sell now?
CEX seems to be having major issues & I dont want to do a coinbase banktransfer as my bank would kill me on fees.
Im am trying to get enough signups (3 in total!) to revoult app & card which will be handy for foreign currency, but people wont sign up!


revolut.com/r/aaronpck!crypto
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on January 26, 2018, 08:46:22 AM
what new ways are the to sell now?
CEX seems to be having major issues & I dont want to do a coinbase banktransfer as my bank would kill me on fees.
Im am trying to get enough signups (3 in total!) to revoult app & card which will be handy for foreign currency, but people wont sign up!


revolut.com/r/aaronpck!crypto

Sell? Sell? Bitcoin is like hotel California, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on January 26, 2018, 11:17:39 AM
what new ways are the to sell now?
CEX seems to be having major issues & I dont want to do a coinbase banktransfer as my bank would kill me on fees.
Im am trying to get enough signups (3 in total!) to revoult app & card which will be handy for foreign currency, but people wont sign up!


revolut.com/r/aaronpck!crypto

Sell? Sell? Bitcoin is like hotel California, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

I sell at a price I am happy with to book a hotel for cali trip. Hotels in SF are eyewatering expensive if you want a private bathroom!
Napa - Tahoe - Yosemite - SF 15 nights & $250 a night for anything 1/2 tidy
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on January 27, 2018, 18:27:54 PM
Seems that the ones generating Bitcoin are trying to buy up all the mid to high end graphics cards they can get. Some are selling way above their official list prices and Nvidea are trying to impose limits on sales.

I would like to buy a 1070 but at the moment I don't think it's a good deal.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 27, 2018, 19:25:02 PM
Seems that the ones generating Bitcoin are trying to buy up all the mid to high end graphics cards they can get. Some are selling way above their official list prices and Nvidea are trying to impose limits on sales.

I would like to buy a 1070 but at the moment I don't think it's a good deal.

It's ETH and alts pushing the prices on that, nothing to do with Bitcoin, GPU mining BTC died years ago.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on January 30, 2018, 21:04:13 PM
Seems that the ones generating Bitcoin are trying to buy up all the mid to high end graphics cards they can get. Some are selling way above their official list prices and Nvidea are trying to impose limits on sales.

I would like to buy a 1070 but at the moment I don't think it's a good deal.

It's ETH and alts pushing the prices on that, nothing to do with Bitcoin, GPU mining BTC died years ago.

I haven't done any mining personally, so my knowledge is a bit limited on that side. Either way prices for graphics cards are often a third more than list.

Seems facebook is finally banning criptocurrency adverts. About time too with all the scams it has collected. Hopefully others will follow.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42881892
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on January 31, 2018, 10:59:36 AM
Agreed on the adverts, there are a lot of people shilling some very scammy sh*tcoins and they're not afraid to try anything in order to sell sell sell :-\
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on February 01, 2018, 00:11:16 AM
I think like 99% of ICO's are complete scams! Buy our SamCoins, which will be worthless in 10 minutes. The whole cryptocurrency is undermined by these joke altcoins.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 01, 2018, 18:17:20 PM
I think like 99% of ICO's are complete scams! Buy our SamCoins, which will be worthless in 10 minutes. The whole cryptocurrency is undermined by these joke altcoins.

99% is very accurate!  ;D
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on February 01, 2018, 20:13:55 PM
I think like 99% of ICO's are complete scams! Buy our SamCoins, which will be worthless in 10 minutes. The whole cryptocurrency is undermined by these joke altcoins.

99% is very accurate!  ;D
with 1% allowed for error
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on February 02, 2018, 07:39:53 AM
60% scams or get rich quick schemes for insiders.
35% putting stuff "on the blockchain" for the sake of it*

5% actual legit good ideas, a couple of percent of which have the teams to make it long term.





*BUY MY APPLE COIN! I JUST NEED $400,000,000 TO PUT APPLES ON THE BLOCKCHAIN.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 05, 2018, 18:33:12 PM
Going down to $3k over the coming months?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on February 06, 2018, 00:07:55 AM
LLoyds and Virgin have banned bitcoin purchases on credit cards. Japanese regulators have raided the offices of Coincheck, who recently lost £375 million of cryptocurrencies to hackers.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 06, 2018, 18:08:36 PM
LLoyds and Virgin have banned bitcoin purchases on credit cards. Japanese regulators have raided the offices of Coincheck, who recently lost £375 million of cryptocurrencies to hackers.

FUD season and the bear market has started  :w00t:

I shared this with a friend yesterday.....

(https://preview.ibb.co/myG4BH/927d3d90_ef8d_4365_93f8_ff6a62f281fe.jpg) (https://ibb.co/e9K2yx)

Up to $7.7k to break back into that channel, which of course is going up all the time.

The next trend line down from the downward arrow is $2.6k~, also rising daily, but less so.

I see this as the "return to mean".
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: addictweb on February 07, 2018, 00:39:34 AM
Monetary Authority of Singapore have also quietly told banks to ban deposits to major exchanges (25th Jan). For some reason its not in the news anywhere.

Im genuinely unsure if I should buy the dip or not, but I'll be waiting a bit longer before I decide.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 07, 2018, 08:14:44 AM
Keeps testing the underside of that upward channel. If it keeps failing, then more down. If we break into it and up watch $8200 and $10,0000
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 07, 2018, 13:19:00 PM
Resistance around $8200 broke.

EDIT: and back below, sticking point for now.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on February 07, 2018, 14:04:54 PM
im very well stuck atm.
Want to sell my ethereum, but cant find anywhere reliable.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 07, 2018, 15:55:27 PM
im very well stuck atm.
Want to sell my ethereum, but cant find anywhere reliable.

Tried Cex.io, got an account? If not I can maybe help you out.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Sam on February 08, 2018, 00:26:49 AM
Resistance around $8200 broke.

EDIT: and back below, sticking point for now.

So what's your prediction ?
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on February 08, 2018, 17:09:11 PM
im very well stuck atm.
Want to sell my ethereum, but cant find anywhere reliable.

Tried Cex.io, got an account? If not I can maybe help you out.
cex was fine, then it throws up some strange error.
initial transaction not found
 Looking on their reddit support people are saying they taking ages to pay out as well.
So sitting on my hands atm. There is no rush. I only have 1/2 an eth atm.
Need to sell when I have $750 to pay for 3 nights in Napa!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 08, 2018, 17:33:40 PM
Resistance around $8200 broke.

EDIT: and back below, sticking point for now.

So what's your prediction ?

Wouldn't like to stick my neck out on this one. Having gone to $8600, we're back below $8200 again, it's a testing point. Tonight, maybe we pull back to $7800~, but it's certainly possible that we go to $9.5k in then next day or two as the 12hr MACD suggests. If we do pull back to $7800 and support there fails then we'll carry on down. Will be good to see how this weekly bar closes.

Weekly StochRSI looks like it has reset, suggesting up.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 11, 2018, 09:06:32 AM
Resistance around $8200 broke.

EDIT: and back below, sticking point for now.

So what's your prediction ?

Wouldn't like to stick my neck out on this one. Having gone to $8600, we're back below $8200 again, it's a testing point. Tonight, maybe we pull back to $7800~, but it's certainly possible that we go to $9.5k in then next day or two as the 12hr MACD suggests. If we do pull back to $7800 and support there fails then we'll carry on down. Will be good to see how this weekly bar closes.

Weekly StochRSI looks like it has reset, suggesting up.

So after all that, we went to $9.1k, which meant we touched 30d EMA on the 12hr. I sold out at the point to either buy the pullback or watch it drop. And here we are sub $7.9k and have broken out of the upward channel again. Very real chance we carry on back to $6k now.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 11, 2018, 12:52:10 PM
Seems the bottom of the channel has strong support. Good bounce this morning.

Some ideas :-

(https://preview.ibb.co/e7NzMS/Untitled.png) (https://ibb.co/fPXc87)
upload my photos (https://imgbb.com/)
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Dave on February 17, 2018, 22:08:47 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/A2rkOPA.png?1)  ;D
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 18, 2018, 09:34:49 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/A2rkOPA.png?1)  ;D

Lol, it's a good one, seen it before
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on February 21, 2018, 07:10:37 AM
ive setup a revoult card - which is perfect as the money is for holiday spends, so I can sell & transfer in Euros then convert to GBP or USD in the revoult app.
Just waiting for my payout from coinbase now....
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Dave on February 25, 2018, 16:23:49 PM
Lol, it's a good one, seen it before

Out of interest what venues would you recommend for trading crypto. I've avoided investing in it, despite having read about it years ago on here and having watched it rise and rise, since I can't price it. But, though I don't have time at the moment, it could be interesting to play around with some momentum type strategies, especially now there has been so much more hype around it/more liquidity etc..
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 26, 2018, 18:18:26 PM
Lol, it's a good one, seen it before

Out of interest what venues would you recommend for trading crypto. I've avoided investing in it, despite having read about it years ago on here and having watched it rise and rise, since I can't price it. But, though I don't have time at the moment, it could be interesting to play around with some momentum type strategies, especially now there has been so much more hype around it/more liquidity etc..

Cheapest place to buy, easiest and cheapest place to get money in, Coinfloor. Usually I send International Payments in GBP while having my breakfast(8am~), by 9:30am the funds are on the exchange for me to buy with. But not great trading fees and there are no decent phone apps for trading through the API. So I wouldn't use for "trading". There is an Android app from 2014 that barely works.

For trading, try Bitfinex, BitStamp or Coinbase (Has 0% trade fee for market makers! )

For getting money out, when it works, best place is Cex.io as it often has a good premium over other exchanges and it's the only exchange that offers withdrawals direct to Debit and Credit cards.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Eggtastico on February 28, 2018, 13:06:41 PM
revoult card worked fine me once setup. quite quick as well with coinbase.
ive lost trust in CEX
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Walrusbonzo on February 28, 2018, 18:22:59 PM
revoult card worked fine me once setup. quite quick as well with coinbase.
ive lost trust in CEX

Looking into Revolut, downloaded the app, seems really promising. USD, EUR, GBP and BTC accounts all in one place!
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on December 10, 2018, 23:33:41 PM
(http://images.todayintabs.com/antares.gif)

Surviving? Shocking year for "price"

Ironically a fantastic year for development in the space, Lightning network I'm very fond of. Furthermore many of the dreadful ICOs are being flushed down the loo.

There's a saying in the Bitcoin space "If in doubt, zoom out" regarding the long term "price" The OP from Sam highlights this nicely.

So what's going on with bitcoin now the price is $175. Anyone still got it? Anyone recommend getting some

Oh, and this tweet https://twitter.com/charliebilello/status/1072150714913312768

European banks in 2018,
HSBC: -17%
Barclays: -27%
UBS: -28%
Santander: -29%
Credit Agricole: -31%
Societe Generale: -35%
ING: -36%
Credit Suisse: -37%
BNP Paribas: -37%
Deutsche Bank: -55%
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: neXus on December 11, 2018, 04:27:31 AM
I had a look at my dogecoin - I got $50k worth and cant do anything with it or shift it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: Serious on December 14, 2018, 17:29:04 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/A2rkOPA.png?1)  ;D

Lol, it's a good one, seen it before

Looks extremely like Teresa May at the moment.

And Donald Du...err Trump
Title: Re: Bitcoin
Post by: matt5cott on April 03, 2019, 07:30:26 AM
Is bear season finally over? ???