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Title: Cigars
Post by: chrisdicko on August 06, 2010, 22:21:26 PM
Do any of you guys smoke cigars?

For some reason in the last year Ive got in to them. Not sure why, but I have.

My favourites up to now are Romeo y Julieta No.3 Tubos, or Montecristos. Ive tried a few more like Rocky Patel, Cohiba etc, but think the Romeos suit me best.

Any other worth a try?

A friend of mine is a tobacconist, and gives me mates rates, but they are a lot cheaper abroad still unfortunately. I got a box of these for 40euro when I was in Amsterdam, but they are £90 odd in the UK http://www.simplycigars.co.uk/romeo-julieta-tubos-p-1578.html
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on August 07, 2010, 00:06:24 AM
If youre talking petit corona, Montecristo number 4 is a fine choice, as is the punch but a cheeky dark horse and my personal favourite is the diplomaticos number 4 but these arent easy to get hold of. Other decent shouts, San Cristobals are good but quite strong, Sancho Panza aint bad either, all down to personal choice I guess!


There are loads, depends what mood you are in, if you want something larger, robusto size or suchlike id recommend slightly different, the cristo 2 is great, the siglo VI is superb, but super pricey.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 07, 2010, 00:59:11 AM
Love my cigars as matt5cott knows. Sadly unlike his Im sure, my humidor has nothing good in it at the moment as Ive had neither the money nor the occasion for them (occasion isnt really an issue though, any time can be made fit for a good cigar).

For someone without connections, you cant beat prices and service of http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/index.php

Love the Romeo y Julieta 3s and Diplomatico 4s, the R y J range are always smooth and consistent in my experience, a good any time smoke. Montecristo 4s Ill second as well as the petit edmundo that Ive enjoyed. You do really need to expirement, youll find any cigars from the big players enjoyable but Im sure it comes down to personal taste as to which you would prefer. If you really want a cigar for an occasion try a Bolivar churchill - set aside a few hours for it.

Ive been meaning to try the Fonseca KDT Cadetes, they are pretty mild, youre a big fan of those I think matt?
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Bacon on August 07, 2010, 04:39:13 AM
Next you will be talking about your smoking jackets :P Better start linking pics of them now :P
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Rivkid on August 07, 2010, 18:14:40 PM
havent dared have one since I quit the fags last year. Planning on have one on my wedding day (2012) if not before then though. Just worried it might push be back into smoking all the time....
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on August 09, 2010, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne


For someone without connections, you cant beat prices and service of http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/index.php

Love the Romeo y Julieta 3s and Diplomatico 4s, the R y J range are always smooth and consistent in my experience, a good any time smoke. Montecristo 4s Ill second as well as the petit edmundo that Ive enjoyed. You do really need to expirement, youll find any cigars from the big players enjoyable but Im sure it comes down to personal taste as to which you would prefer. If you really want a cigar for an occasion try a Bolivar churchill - set aside a few hours for it.

Ive been meaning to try the Fonseca KDT Cadetes, they are pretty mild, youre a big fan of those I think matt?


As above, cgars are excellent, the service is top top notch. My humidors not too bad at the moment, quite a lot of casualtys on the big side but plenty of petit coronas.

I have a 20+ of the fonsecas, Ill mail you one out at some point if you pm me your current address Clockd (I wont be particularly prompt at getting it out though)
Title: Cigars
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 09, 2010, 11:58:22 AM
So tell me guys, is it true (do you believe it to be true) that smoking cigars is better for your health than smoking cigarettes?

A while back i was tempted by cigars but prefer the clean(ish) lungs i think
Title: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on August 09, 2010, 12:30:14 PM
Quote from: Binary Shadow
So tell me guys, is it true (do you believe it to be true) that smoking cigars is better for your health than smoking cigarettes?

A while back i was tempted by cigars but prefer the clean(ish) lungs i think


I smoke a cigar a weekend at most, so thats one cigar a week.

Depends what you compare it to, if you smoke 20 benson a day then yeah maybe so, but then you will probably smoke 2/3 cigars a day instead, so a mixed bag :gag:
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 09, 2010, 13:43:55 PM
Youre probably more at risk of mouth cancer than the other respiritory problems and things like lung cancer associated with smoking, as you dont draw back a cigar the same as you would a cigarette (at least, youre not supposed to).

Id say overall its got to be healthier for you, especially only one a week a whatever. I also dont think you can really become addicted from cigars in the same way. They are generally a smarter, better product choice if you want to smoke something.

Ill take you up on that offer btw Matt, nice one :ptu:
Title: Cigars
Post by: zpyder on August 09, 2010, 14:55:45 PM
Quote from: Binary Shadow
So tell me guys, is it true (do you believe it to be true) that smoking cigars is better for your health than smoking cigarettes?

A while back i was tempted by cigars but prefer the clean(ish) lungs i think


Spooky, my family were discussing this tother night when we went out for a meal, I my parents had never heard that cigars were better but I also had thought they were meant to be "cleaner" or less addictive or something.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Serious on August 10, 2010, 15:05:20 PM
You arent supposed to inhale cigar smoke, and you dont smoke as many of them. They also dont have the filters which tend to contain some nasty substances but are bigger. So theoretically they are better depending on how you smoke them, how big they are and how many you smoke.

There is also supposed to be an anti-nicotine vaccine coming out in the next few years. Produces antibodies that grab onto nicotine and makes it too big to pass over the blood/brain barrier.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: zpyder on August 10, 2010, 16:26:10 PM
If you dont inhale the smoke, how do you get the nicotine boost from cigars, or is it just the flavour in your mouth?
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 11, 2010, 16:34:41 PM
Cigar smoking isnt/shouldnt be about the nicotine, its about the flavour.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on August 12, 2010, 12:42:33 PM
Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
Cigar smoking isnt/shouldnt be about the nicotine, its about the flavour.



Yes, for this reason I wouldnt give someone a Cohiba as a first cigar, they tend to be a bit full on to say the least :heehaw:

As a decent mid ranger Romeos and Punches, cant go wrong with em tbh :ptu:

tbh Chris if youre looking for new ones just go on c-gars, and buy a petit corona or a robusto if youre feeling flush of each of the major cuban brands, you should get a feel of what you like after that little haul  :w00t:
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on August 17, 2010, 14:04:57 PM
Had an aforementioned fonseca on Sunday, despite being UAE imports they smoked fine, 30 minutes, quite a light flavour very casual smoke.


As good as I remember any of the EMS ones I have had  :cheers:
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 17, 2010, 15:44:36 PM
Still havnt tried mine with the weather taking a dire turn, Im hoping for a result this weekend instead.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: chrisdicko on August 17, 2010, 20:57:23 PM
Thanks a lot for the advise guys  :rock:  :rock:

Wasnt expecting that much info really. Some good suggestions for me to try there!

What are petit corona or a robusto though?? Im guessing a size?

Are humidifiers worth it? As the dont last too long in my house for me thinking I need one?  
 
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: bigsteve on August 21, 2010, 00:21:27 AM
I have been smoking cigars for 30 yrs or so , go for long spells when i dont smoke @ all but always seem to come back to them.
Tried many many different ones but the 1s i enjoy the most is good old Hamlet , i get bored of larger cigars.When i smoked cigarettes i smoked 30+ a day
but with cigars probably 3 to 5 a day.Are they better than cigarettes ? well certainly better than smoking 30+ cigarettes.
I do believe that the chemicals that they treat the paper on cigarettes contains a lot of toxins , leave a cigarette burning & it will burn down
to the filter , leave a cigar & it goes out.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Eagle on August 21, 2010, 01:41:00 AM
Anyone do a pipe?  Always fancied a go but cant be arsed with all the faff.
Title: Re:Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 21, 2010, 01:55:24 AM
Pipes are good fun and nice with different types of tobacco for flavour, certainly a hassle though and more of a novelty I think.


As for a humidor chrisdicko, if you intend on making it a habit you can start off easily by making your own or using a humijar (http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/cgars-empty-humijar-best-p-2661.html) that needs little attention with fresh cigars stored in (basically a sealable glass jar with a humidifying cylinder in, they are a bit cheaper than a full humidor). If you intend on getting quite a few to keep and smoke at your leisure Id say its worth it, I got mine in the last sale they had for about £30 I think, they threw in the humidifier, guage, distilled water solution, matches, etc. bargain really if youre going to maintain it. Mine needs some TLC before I can actively use it again I think, but I know I have it there to use for when I have a bit of money to splash on a few nice cigars again.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 12, 2011, 14:02:04 PM
A little bit of a bumparoony, not smoked at all over the last few months. I can take it or leave it in the winter, standing outside in the freezing cold doesn't appeal to me so I've just been doing maitenance (topping up with water) on the humidors.

Think I may crack one out if this weekend is mildish, chrisdicko did you end up getting some?
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 12, 2011, 14:19:01 PM
I got given an authentic Guantanamera Minutos to try out by the missus, I might light it up this weekend too, I'm hoping for a relatively short but sweet smoke.

I just received a late Christmas present from a client, a 16 year old single malt (http://www.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/bladnoch-1993-signatory-bottling-whisky/). Very chuffed! These two will be a nice partnership  8)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 16, 2011, 11:52:05 AM
That whiskey looks crazy, so clear  :o

Did you ever smoke that Fonseca? if so what did you think? they're quite light, but good for a cheap cuban I think.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Edd on January 16, 2011, 18:58:08 PM
What websites do people use to buy their cigars? Or do you pop down to your local tobacconist? I know that whenever I pop in to the local one to get some pipe tobacco I always end up drooling at the cigars they have on offer there.

It's like the best shop in the world ever. I could stay there for a good 3 hours just looking at all the tarry goodness they have on offer.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: soopahfly on January 17, 2011, 10:05:41 AM
On the topic of Whisky, this stuff is mighty fine.

£15 at morisson.

Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 17, 2011, 15:13:13 PM
That whiskey looks crazy, so clear  :o

Did you ever smoke that Fonseca? if so what did you think? they're quite light, but good for a cheap cuban I think.

I did smoke the Fonseca but I can't remember when, I do remember it was a very nice smoke though, quite mild. I've been given a Cohiba in a glass tube from my mate that came back from the Carribbean (along with some authentic Costa Rican coffee grounds) I'm not sure what size it is, its long and quite thin like a felt tip pen. So that's two cigars and that whiskey to try (that in particular will be interesting to try, it's the most expensive bottle I've ever been given)

What websites do people use to buy their cigars? Or do you pop down to your local tobacconist? I know that whenever I pop in to the local one to get some pipe tobacco I always end up drooling at the cigars they have on offer there.

It's like the best shop in the world ever. I could stay there for a good 3 hours just looking at all the tarry goodness they have on offer.

I used to have a decent choice of tobacconists when I lived in Brum, I never see them anywhere these days. But it's usually cheaper and the service is excellent from http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/ (http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/) - the only thing missing is that drool factor.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 17, 2011, 20:19:35 PM
I've been given a Cohiba in a glass tube from my mate that came back from the Carribbean (along with some authentic Costa Rican coffee grounds) I'm not sure what size it is, its long and quite thin like a felt tip pen.

(http://www.chasethedevil.co.uk/img/suit.jpg)

Coronas Especiales, Cuba.

I have four myself.

Rumour has it you're in for a treat there.


(http://www.chasethedevil.co.uk/img/coresp.jpg)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 17, 2011, 20:40:15 PM
Close, but no cigar it seems!

(http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8762/rumourhasitarafatbuyshi.jpg)

Looks like it's ever so slightly thinner and shorter


Perhaps my Stabilo is a giant amongst the felt pen world :lol: Panatela or Exquisitos size I reckon from the guage
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 17, 2011, 22:53:16 PM
My god that is thin, I didn't even realise Cohiba got that thin  :drool:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 19, 2011, 13:23:43 PM
I'd be interested in how long that Cohiba lasts actually, at a guess 30 mins tops, but that makes it a more viable choice for the winter months :yarr:

I checked my humidors last night, both very low humidity, seems I hadn't topped them up in a few months :gag:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 19, 2011, 14:27:53 PM
My house is very humid and its actually not needed much topping up, when I looked its sat just below 60% but there's little in there worth keeping now, I'll probably junk a lot of the old miniatures in there when I move and clean it out, make room for a decent purchase.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 23, 2011, 23:44:44 PM
I tried the Guantanamera tonight, it was quite mild and a steady burn with no issues, went down well with whisky which is very smooth and light to begin with with a very strong finish, its got a nice lingering taste that could easily see you through a very full glass.
Title: Cigars
Post by: Rivkid on January 25, 2011, 07:35:34 AM

Coronas Especiales, Cuba.

I have four myself.

Rumour has it you're in for a treat there.

Awesome referencing!!
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: chrisdicko on January 26, 2011, 16:29:06 PM
Well, the missus got me a nice Humidor for Christmas, and started filling it and smoking them.

Got a few varieties in there; got these left:
10 x Romeo Y Julieta No.2
1 x Romeo Y Julieta No.1
1 x Romeo Y Julieta Short Churchills
1 x Romeo Y Julieta Cedros De Luxe No.1
1 x Cohiba Siglo V - Can't wait to smoke this one, but want to wait until summer.

Spend Christmas and New year in Slovakia, and went to a Havana Bar, and had this when I was there......very nice! Maybe the nicest I've had, but not sure the 'spec' of it  :lol:
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b31/chrisdicko/c433e60a.jpg)


Off to Amsterdam in two week and Cigars are nice and cheap there. Any recommendations to buy/try?
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 26, 2011, 17:06:13 PM
I had a big old post typed up, then Firefox decided to crash as usual :disappointed:

You've got a good selection of R y J's in that humidor! The one you smoked looks Siglo II size to me but it's always hard to tell from photos, if you enjoyed that then the Siglo V should be well worth the wait for you, I like the Cohibas.

The gist of it was, you'll probably find the big export brands cheaper like H.Upmann/Diplomaticos/Montecristo, I'd aim to get some good prices on Diplomaticos.

Guantanameras are mild across the range so you should like them if you like the Romeo y Julietas. Punch will be stronger and Bolivar stronger still, but I would recommend picking these up if they appear wel priced too.

I would avoid non-Cuban's such as La Paz, etc as these are common and the quality just isn't the same.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: chrisdicko on January 26, 2011, 20:53:46 PM
Nice one, thanks a lot.

I'm going to get prices here, then compare the best deals when I'm over there.

I've had a few Montecristo before and enjoyed them, so will also give the H.Upmann and Diplomaticos a bash.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 26, 2011, 21:36:50 PM
Diplomaticos and Montecristos are all produced by H.Upmann actually, it's just different types of cigar but also why they are so widely available/popular I guess.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 26, 2011, 22:11:54 PM
I struggle to get diplos, only seen them at c-gars :(

Whenever I go abroad if I'm stocking up I stick to cristos, R&J, cohiba, upmanns and partagas are worth a shout, they seem to be available pretty much anywhere.

Oh and if you're abroad get some big boys in, like some R&J churchills as they're tons tons tons cheaper :bow:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on January 26, 2011, 22:49:06 PM
I could have sworn I saw some Diplos in Amsterdam but I could easily be mixing them up with the Montecristos. The bigger cigars are definitely where the savings are to be made, treat yourself :thumbup:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on January 26, 2011, 22:58:07 PM
I could have sworn I saw some Diplos in Amsterdam but I could easily be mixing them up with the Montecristos. The bigger cigars are definitely where the savings are to be made, treat yourself :thumbup:

Only place I saw with decent smokes was the airport, and the selection was a bit meh, I'd had a long weekend mind.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on May 05, 2011, 11:33:03 AM
Mates 40th this weekend, he's a cigar man and is smoking a montecristo millenium Friday night  :bow: as the name suggests its been sat in his humidor for 11 years :bow:

I'm joining him with my modest El rey del mundo choix supreme, which has been in my humidor for a mere 4 years  :cheers:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 05, 2011, 12:12:55 PM
Excellent stuff! I think I need to stash away a good one for the 30th/40th, I hope they've aged well :cheers:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Bacon on May 05, 2011, 12:27:06 PM
These get good reviews, although the 54s are apparently smoother

(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/5028/cohibabehike521.jpg)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on May 05, 2011, 12:28:56 PM
The behikes are relatively new aren't they?

I have a pair of Siglo VIs for my 30th this June, I think they've been in my humi for about 5 years, that should do  :yarr:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Bacon on May 05, 2011, 12:53:37 PM
The behikes are relatively new aren't they?

I have a pair of Siglo VIs for my 30th this June, I think they've been in my humi for about 5 years, that should do  :yarr:

Early 2010 and limited availability due to the parts of the plant they use.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 05, 2011, 12:57:00 PM
I wouldn't mind having a small box of limited run cigars for special occasions.
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on May 05, 2011, 13:52:51 PM
I got the mailer about the behikes when they came out and tbh I didn't see them as much special, more of a cashin. I'd like to see something ltd modern by Montecristo and Diplomaticos but they don't seem to do many (if any recent) runs  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on May 05, 2011, 18:40:06 PM
Just had a bit of a shuffle, got some pics of the big boys.

(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_05052011385.jpg)

The Siglo VIs

(http://chasethedevil.co.uk/coppermatt/albums/userpics/10001/normal_05052011386.jpg)

R&J Churchill

Hoyo De Monterry Double Corona
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on May 05, 2011, 18:53:35 PM
They are monsters for sure, I've not had any of those size cigars in a long time. The divider would have to come out of my humidor I think ;D
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Bacon on May 06, 2011, 01:07:56 AM
I bet those Cohiba's taste good, they look good enough to eat :P
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on May 06, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
I'm joining him with my modest El rey del mundo choix supreme, which has been in my humidor for a mere 4 years  :cheers:

This is locked and loaded in my portable cigar tube, it smells bloody brilliant :D

Turns out I have some 07 ltd edition cigars, I thought they where just robustos, but it turns out they're el rey del mundo belicios sounds like they're a great smoke from reviews, though I only have 2  :-\
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on May 06, 2011, 12:22:44 PM
I bet those Cohiba's taste good, they look good enough to eat :P

I had a siglo VI on my birthday a few years back, it had only matured about a year but was still very very bold, really strong flavours as you would expect with a cohiba, I can't remember much else other than it was spot on (http://www.propertyinvesting.com/files/smileys/smiley-cigar.gif)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on September 30, 2011, 15:14:32 PM
Pretty much the last weekend of the summer boys and girls, smoke em if you got em (http://www.propertyinvesting.com/files/smileys/smiley-cigar.gif)

(armed with Cohiba Coronas Especiales for this evening)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: eGG on October 03, 2011, 15:05:54 PM
only if it has abit of reefa in it.... init? :hug: :nana: :cheers: :hug: :cheers: :nana:
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 30, 2012, 23:15:49 PM
Blast from the past here, much smoking going on this summer? in the rain?

I bumped this because.. well.. i'm thinking about giving it a bash.. cant hurt to try it right..

So having never smoked anything.. what would you recommend on the cigar front.. and where from?

Thinking about something like this.. http://www.cgarsltd.co.uk/cigar-gift-pack-upmann-corona-junior-gift-p-8077.html
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: matt5cott on August 30, 2012, 23:22:36 PM
Definitely a good shout there, I bought a box of upmann normal sized coronas duty free a few years back, very smooth easy smoke :thumbup:

TBH though I would try a local haberdashery first to have a nosey, if you have one :)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on August 31, 2012, 08:59:49 AM
I agree there, can't go wrong with that choice I think, as long as you go for something light to ease you in. I always recommend Romeo y Julieta's too as they are light and smooth. Whatever you do make sure you get a real Cuban and not some harsh rubbish like a box of small Hamlets from the Tesco tabacco counter or such like.

Just remember not to be taking deep draws on the cigars, shouldn't be a problem for you as you won't have the habits of a smoker though. It's all about the taste. 8)
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Binary Shadow on August 31, 2012, 11:07:32 AM
Slapped an order in for the above and a single tubed Romeo y Julieta No.3

Will soon see what all the fuss is about...
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: chrisdicko on August 31, 2012, 22:46:52 PM
I've tried loads now since I started the thread, and mainly smoke Romeo y Julieta's due to price, as they are relatively cheap, but like Cohiba Siglo's a lot more, but there is the added cost. I haven't been too keen on the Montecristo's I've tried as they have seemed too harsh/bitter. A decent non-cuban cigar is a Rocky Patel 1990 too.

Have a look at http://www.thebackyshop.co.uk
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Binary Shadow on September 03, 2012, 00:24:51 AM
Impressive delivery from C.Gars LTD arrived sat am, only ordered friday after lunch!
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Binary Shadow on October 10, 2013, 21:31:31 PM
How goes the cigars? Seem to be significantly more expensive these days, duty must have gone up?
Title: Re: Cigars
Post by: Eggtastico on October 11, 2013, 07:08:47 AM
i bought some cheap local ones in canaries islands last month. only £3 for 5
not touched them yet.