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Food supplies down in some areas due to the Tory B****t disaster.

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Serious:

--- Quote from: Bacon on September 18, 2021, 17:51:13 PM ---It has nothing to do with EU drivers and Brexit, that is the scape goat being used as its an easy excuse, there are plenty of drivers in this country, a lot of them have chosen different careers, a lot of them are driving 3.5T luton vans for other companies including supermarkets and couriers as they can make just as much money with less responsibility.

Take AO for example, they are paying £1500 a month, base 5 day week for a 2 man crew, driver and mate of a transit sized vehicle, the driver would typically take a bit more so say and £850 / £650 split, the driver gets his bit extra, the mate sits in the van and does a lot of the grunt work, those wages are banging for van work, plus there is the opportunity of overtime, some lads i know are making £1000 a week, you dont make that in 7.5T with Tacho / CPC and also hard to make it in Class 2 unless your in a very well paid role.

--- End quote ---

Strange that the directors of huge companies and the lorry driver's unions are all saying it's Brexit, but you make up fake reasons. Government has said that employment drop due to covid is now over but that was last year too, when we did not have a driver shortage.

Wages problem did not exist before Jan 1st so another red herring excuse.

WE DID NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE ON DECEMBER 31st. IT IS BREXIT.

Serious:
The UK’s largest supermarket also called on the Government to temporarily make it easier to bring in workers from abroad to ease the issue.

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/tesco-warns-government-panic-buying-171326920.html

Bacon:

--- Quote from: Serious on September 21, 2021, 13:30:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bacon on September 18, 2021, 17:51:13 PM ---It has nothing to do with EU drivers and Brexit, that is the scape goat being used as its an easy excuse, there are plenty of drivers in this country, a lot of them have chosen different careers, a lot of them are driving 3.5T luton vans for other companies including supermarkets and couriers as they can make just as much money with less responsibility.

Take AO for example, they are paying £1500 a month, base 5 day week for a 2 man crew, driver and mate of a transit sized vehicle, the driver would typically take a bit more so say and £850 / £650 split, the driver gets his bit extra, the mate sits in the van and does a lot of the grunt work, those wages are banging for van work, plus there is the opportunity of overtime, some lads i know are making £1000 a week, you dont make that in 7.5T with Tacho / CPC and also hard to make it in Class 2 unless your in a very well paid role.

--- End quote ---

Strange that the directors of huge companies and the lorry driver's unions are all saying it's Brexit, but you make up fake reasons. Government has said that employment drop due to covid is now over but that was last year too, when we did not have a driver shortage.

Wages problem did not exist before Jan 1st so another red herring excuse.

WE DID NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE ON DECEMBER 31st. IT IS BREXIT.

--- End quote ---

How would you know, you dont even work in the industry and never have done, you just listen to MSM and make your decision from that.

Serious:

--- Quote from: Bacon on September 25, 2021, 18:25:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: Serious on September 21, 2021, 13:30:44 PM ---
--- Quote from: Bacon on September 18, 2021, 17:51:13 PM ---It has nothing to do with EU drivers and Brexit, that is the scape goat being used as its an easy excuse, there are plenty of drivers in this country, a lot of them have chosen different careers, a lot of them are driving 3.5T luton vans for other companies including supermarkets and couriers as they can make just as much money with less responsibility.

Take AO for example, they are paying £1500 a month, base 5 day week for a 2 man crew, driver and mate of a transit sized vehicle, the driver would typically take a bit more so say and £850 / £650 split, the driver gets his bit extra, the mate sits in the van and does a lot of the grunt work, those wages are banging for van work, plus there is the opportunity of overtime, some lads i know are making £1000 a week, you dont make that in 7.5T with Tacho / CPC and also hard to make it in Class 2 unless your in a very well paid role.

--- End quote ---

Strange that the directors of huge companies and the lorry driver's unions are all saying it's Brexit, but you make up fake reasons. Government has said that employment drop due to covid is now over but that was last year too, when we did not have a driver shortage.

Wages problem did not exist before Jan 1st so another red herring excuse.

WE DID NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE ON DECEMBER 31st. IT IS BREXIT.

--- End quote ---

How would you know, you dont even work in the industry and never have done, you just listen to MSM and make your decision from that.

--- End quote ---

Because I have read recent reports on it. I don't bother with MSM, it's crap. It's all the other reports, including from the Telegraph and other Tory Brexit papers.

Seems Boris is going to cave to their pressure and allow at least temporary visas for EU drivers.

Serious:
Not as easy as it seems. EU unions look likely to go against Boris' three month visa deal, not that I trust him to honour it myself. A third of all BP petrol stations nearly out of fuel.

This is not the only source that put this up.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/eu-lorry-drivers-wont-help-094516137.html

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