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Chat => General Discussion => Topic started by: Binary Shadow on October 15, 2007, 11:38:45 AM
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A bit of a blog this may sound like [/yoda]
Just how is it some guys can just go and talk to a girl and know how to act and what to say.. where as guys like me.. cant.. and dont know how to begin let alone have a convo with one.
A girl has started temping for another team here at work and caught my eye, many guys wouldnt give her a 2nd look but theres something about her.. but it doesnt matter since i can never just go over and talk to people let alone girls.. yeah im a wimp or got no balls or sommit lol
Anyway, any suggestions how to overcome this fear/lack of knowledge?
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Confidence. First you have to realize you are good enough and then go for it. It doesnt matter if you fail regularly cause every so often you will meet with a success and the failures all go down to training.
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Yeah its all down to confidence. Go over, have a chat be a bit witty if you can, prefereably have a non-boring topic of conversation in mind you can fall back on. Easy. Most of all though just be yourself.
If youve been noticing her, has she been noticing you? If so youre 50% in already, just dont fluff up talking to her :thumbup:
You dont even have to ask her out as such btw, just ask her if shed like to go for a drink or a cup of coffee after work or something.
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Well i only spotted her today and since it was from across the room its unlikely she saw me.. which is great as im looking particulalrly awful today lol
did something new with my hair and iv not had much luck.
Will see how things go but since shes a temp she could be gone any time.. no pressure tho eh
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just do it before your penis becomes a vagina.
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har bloody har
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The Nudity Buffer
The nudity buffer is a term that describes the time span between seeing an attractive woman and imagining her naked.
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The Nudity Buffer
The nudity buffer is a term that describes the time span between seeing an attractive woman and imagining her naked.
typically 5 minutes.
Of course theres also the melty man to worry about, and the sock gap.
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My eyes, its just another person, except you want to stick your penis in this one and actually want to spend some time with them.
But really, confidence, get confident at work first and what you do, then you will be surprised just how talking to a girl feels like second nature.
Warning tho, women in general are a head f**k!
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and ditch the vauxhalls
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i drive a range rover..
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If its really a problem there are openers for conversations... You could read a couple of books. IIRC theyre called something like:
* the professional bachelor
* The game (the army boys use that one a lot)
They basically come down to being able to talk to anyone and when you can comfortably do that then theres no huge leap to doing it to people you find attractive. I got introduced to it not for picking up girls but for meeting people when travelling around the world on your own. Really handy to be able to walk into a room where you know noone, have a few beers and a laugh with strangers and leave having met a few new people.
I seem to remember there was a show on tv that covered the guy who wrote the game a while back that got uploaded onto youtube. I think they ended up practicing on people they didnt find attractive/intimidated by (i.e. grannies at a bingo) and then they just ported it over to clubs, bars etc.
It really is about confidence. People have different levels of it but there are ways you can boost it if youre not naturally that way. Ive not really suffered from it (if anything Im probably over confident and need to shut the f**k up more often than not lol) but I did recommend the book to a few mates who used to need a wingman everytime they wanted to speak to someone - they got LOADS better quickly and it meant I could spend more time with my pint :) One thing tho - if you do follow the stuff in the game, another guy whos read it will be able to spot you doing it a mile off. Its actually funny to look around bars and see people using it :)
Example: positive reinforcement. When youre talking to a girl touch her arm or tap the table gently or something whenever shes talking about something funny/enjoyable/happy memory. After a while shes subconciously attuned to associating the action with the feeling. Then after a while you switch it - whenever you suggest something to do or tell a joke/story you do the action. Subconciously shell be more inclined to react favourably. This is an easy one to spot if you know what to look for and funny as hell once you can spot them.
Example 2: Opener to a random person in a bar.
You: "Do you want to play a game? All you have to do is get 5 questions wrong. Theres no trick questions like is there a god, or anything like that. Id say whats your name and youd say Bill Gates. Ill bet you a drink and a kiss. Want to play?".
Other: "Erm ok, (possibly: not so sure about the kiss, whatever)"
You: "ok, question 1 - where are you from?
Other: "Afghanistan"
You: "where are we now?"
Other: "In a tent"
You: "lol ok - erm what colour is the sky?"
Other: "red"
You: "err.... *look a bit confused* How many questions was that?"
Other "950"
You: "Dammit! Youve played this before havent you?"
Other: "Ha ha - no"
You: "Got you on the 5th question!"
Thats one of a million examples but you win no matter what. Someone dumb will tell you how many questions you asked in which case you win anyway. Others will do it as above in which case you win. If you lose and they get the last question wrong you still have to buy a drink/kiss but youre around for the next drink anyway which was kind of the point in the first place. Usually youd let them off with te drink and take a kiss on the cheek or something. Either way youve entertained them, been chatting, around for the next drink, whatever. A couple of things like that as openers and you can autopilot the first 5-10 mins of a conversation without even having to think of things to say, etc.
While were on the topic... Theres a thing called swarming. If you walk up to a random girl in a group and start talking to her, her friends will pull her away out of instinct. So you cant just walk up and talk to one. Generally pick one of the other girls and then engage the rest of the group. Generally the theory goes you agree with the one you like each time but ask/speak to them all.
It sounds a little calculated but its very handy to be able to do lots of this stuff off the top of your head with guys/girls/peoples parents/whoever at the drop of a hat. If you can comfortably engage a couple of people for a minute or so without having to stumble for things to say then theyll usually chat to you for the rest of the night and remember you well.
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Just IMHO, but Id stay away from books. Any techniques they try to teach you are going to be a bit unnatural and not in line with keeping in your own mannerisms and personality, just practicing in your own way would be better for you tbh.
Plus I think learning something like that from a book seems a bit pathetic (especially if youre the sort of person that wants a fast track to the bedroom then intends never to get in touch with them again, which Id imagine is the lifeblood readership of these books). If I knew people using these same old routines to try to pick up girls Id probably point it out too. :P
Not that Im suggesting youre like that at all. I still think youre better off on your own. Just my 2p anyway.
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I find the hardest bit is the initial approach. getting a convsation started is easy but you need to find a reason to go over there and talk to her first.
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Madrockers right. Ive f**ked that up countless times.
Then the not very elegant backing out, course doesnt help when you stutter, stumble backwards saying sorry, fall over a table, and send yourself and your pint flying arse backwards across the room.
Still... got her number though ;)
(ahh few years back that one was :D)
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on another point some woman find it flattering when a man trys to talk to her and gets all choked up.
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1) Dont put women up on a pedestal. They just women.
2) Dont hit on her while shes working. Itll be awkward, lunchtime is best.
3) "Alright?" is your no.1 chat-up line in this situation. Catch her when shes walking past. Big goofy smile, "alright?"
4) Dont stare at her or anything, but do the eye-contact thing if you make eye contact after youve spoke to her.
5) Quick common ground. "God I hate/love that [thing about work/boss]."
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While were on the topic... Theres a thing called swarming. If you walk up to a random girl in a group and start talking to her, her friends will pull her away out of instinct. So you cant just walk up and talk to one. Generally pick one of the other girls and then engage the rest of the group. Generally the theory goes you agree with the one you like each time but ask/speak to them all.
We call this the ugly one technique. Chat the least good looking one from the group but then switch when you meet the group. The ugly/fat one will be flattered and youll get Nice Bloke status.
It works both ways; If theres a group of girls that are all good-looking theyll pick on guys that are on their own. I got off with 4 or 5 girls (they were a group) the other week using this knowledge and only one of them was a bit skanky.
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all good points, id say going from a book isnt the best idea handy tips in it im sure but itd seem too scripted.
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A small tipple in your coffee might help? 8-)
Or alternatively a gun between her shoulder blades? :twisted:
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the book is a good read. the game by neil strauss.
however some of the techniques in it are played out, but it does give you the insight into ugly blokes picking up beautiful women which is when you realise the key difference between women and men. men fall in love with curves and women fall in love with minds. sweeping generalisation but you get the point.
i once tried walking up to two girls and asking them if my mate was right to split up with his ex cos she got off with a girl, which is strt outta the book. they saw through it but we chatted to them for ages. that was a big turning point for me. ive never been able to chat to girls, but that night i realised i could chat to any girl.
certain things work. Ive found the following has really helped interactions with female friends as well as girls i want to get thru.
give em some stick. most women want to be liked, dont mind a bit of banter and will give it back. if a girl gives you stick back, she likes you. i dont mean raw abuse, but if she calls you a dumbass with a mischevious grin on her face youre in.
talk to their friends. the sort of women theyre after in the book are the sort who are keen to be the centre of attention. when you turn back to talk to them, shell talk back to you. youll also get encouraging smiles form her friends if you engaged them all and didnt make it blindly obvious. if youre lucky, theyll leave you to it.
the stuff about touching is right, but the high five is so american girls over here will spot you a mile off. punch her playfully on the arm. if you get one back its on like donkey kong.
im sure the lasses on here are cringing because of the nature of this thread. sorry, but some of us need a little help. and in the words of the cribs, girls like mystery.
Matt
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ask her about setting her ugly mates up with your ugly mates. dont word it like that unless youve already spiked her drink.
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The ugly/fat one will be flattered and youll get Nice Bloke status.
You can end up with the hippo clinging to you though and acting as a blocker.
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cock block is easily resolved with small bottles of laxatives.
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lots of good points there.... not much to add to that,,, but im going to come in at a different angle...
if youre new to chatting up girls like this then you need to talk to her quick while shes still new and before you decide youre in love with her. (maybe that sounda abit harsh... but you know what I mean!)
and... you work with her, so you have a million and one reasons to talk to her...
you work with her... so youre not going to chat her up one day and have her in bed that night... if I were in youre situation Id try to talk to her and get to know her for a week before I asked her out....
plus if shes new to youre team etc.. she might be a bit nervous...
and lastly... the thing with chat up lines is... any bollocks will do.... if she likes you then she likes you, if not then youre wasting youre time anyway...
the last chat up line I used was "do you like my socks"..."theyve got red bits".... "theyre really cool"..."I got them from asda"...
(Id had a lot to drink)
...but it worked ;) ;)
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"the game" isnt a pick up guide per say - it is an account by a rolling stone journalist of his time amongst a group of pickup artists from an online community. Tis quite a good read IMO and the stuff they get up to is impressive.
Anyway for a collection of articles etc.. this site is a useful resource:
http://www.bristollair.com
I wouldnt use this stuff on the girl at work - you could look fake/sleazy etc.. especially if you lack confidence - just practice approaching random girls in general then if you mess it up who cares youll probably never meet them again. As long as you look clean & presentable then pulling girls is purely down to having confidence and being interesting. Some of the stuff on the internet is useful in that regard in terms of tips for conversation openers etc.. you dont have to use a canned routine (though the pick up guru types do recommend you do till youre really confident) but at sites like the one above do tend to have the odd bit of info that can be quite useful.
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the book is a good read. the game by neil strauss.
"the game" isnt a pick up guide per say - it is an account by a rolling stone journalist of his time amongst a group of pickup artists from an online community. Tis quite a good read IMO and the stuff they get up to is impressive.
There you go, of the 3 people whove read the book you have 3 recommendations. And frankly none of the 3 people listed seem to have a lack of confidence or obvious probs with women.
Seriously, it seems weird but its very worth a read. Its not about picking up women - although thats one of the uses of course. Its purely about psychology and chatting to people be it man, woman, taxi driver, whatever. The point is its about how to engage people in conversation. Its a real skill and the books are definitely worth a read. I got given it by a girl I know who loved it a couple of years back for my birthday and have passed it around guys and girls I know and most have found it interesting/useful. The books in general boil down to one simple thing.
You need to go out and talk to people and just put yourself in the spot.
Theres nothing more to it than that but reading the book just drives the point home. Theres not many books Id strongly recommend but the game would be one of them as it tells you a hell of a lot about the way peoples minds work and is funny as hell.
It sounds dumb but seriously - go read it.
As Dave says I wouldnt recommend using any of it on the girl at work. Itll tell you how to talk to people in general which will build your natural skill at it and then youll just end up talking to the girl at work or anyone else without even thinking twice. Its not about the girl - its about being able to comfortably talk to anyone regardless of the end goal.
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i once tried walking up to two girls and asking them if my mate was right to split up with his ex cos she got off with a girl, which is strt outta the book. they saw through it but we chatted to them for ages. that was a big turning point for me. ive never been able to chat to girls, but that night i realised i could chat to any girl.
Exactly - had a similar night ages back where I realised most people in a bar/wherever actually just want to talk to other people but dont because its weird when someone you dont know approaches you and its easier not to do the work yourself.
The hard bit is getting past the weirdness of wandering up to someone to talk out of the blue. Theres a lot of stuff I learnt from that book that wouldnt have occurred to me by myself. Even in big sociable groups of mates you tend to kick around with are people you already know or have something in common with and dont generally meet totally random strangers. So this isnt stuff youre likely to work out yourself.
Trying to think what some of them where that I now take for granted. One was letting them know you arent going to bug them all night by pointing out youre with other people and have to get back. Things like that. Its not a script - it just points out why people find strangers weird and how to not make people put up shields. Its a while since Ive read it tbh but remember it being genious. In fact 90% of the time I actually started conversations by saying - hi - have you heard of a book called the game? And then going from there.
There is a load of stuff purely about pulling people which is things like statements of intention etc which I never really bothered with - but the talking to strangers stuff is better than youd think.
As soon as you cross the point of caring you can talk to anyone.
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try and catch her at the coffee machine or whatever, offer to buy her one, then slip some rohypnol in, bish bash bosh, job done, lets face it thats the only way youre gonna get her
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another piece of bad advice is to set up a hideously complex accident where she gets slightly hurt and the important bits not mangled like her feet (unless your into feet) an be the first to say,
ITS QUICKER BY CAR, ILL TAKE HER! perfect opportunity to stop by your house.
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A mate of mine was in a similar position to you so he came up with a grand plan (he has many of these ;-). He had been keeping an eye on what time she left work over the course of a week and chose to leave much earlier one afternoon. He snuck down to the carpark and let the air out of one of her tyres. He then waited in his car, which he had conveniently parked within view for about an hour until she came down. As soon as she noticed it she was all annoyed and frustrated, he gave her a few minutes to get a little upset and then jumped out of his car and came to the rescue, offering to change the tyre for her. Was a great way to start a conversation and which led to him getting his date.
Great story if you ask me, he is now engaged (to another girl, as she turned out to be a total head fcuk!). ;)
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sounds like a stalker tbqpfh
I bet it was you
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get drunk & talk to random birds. You wouldnt swing a 1 wood without a few practice swings first
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sounds like a stalker tbqpfh
I bet it was you
Yes, if I was her hed have gone home with a black eye had I found out.
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sounds like a stalker tbqpfh
I bet it was you
Yes, if I was her hed have gone home with a black eye had I found out.
Or you could have hit him with your handbag? Jeez .... give the boy some credit will you!
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Its deception at the end of the day. She could have been shooting off somewhere straight after work for any number of things but instead she has to wait around while some muppet that let the air out of the tyres so nobly offers to fit the spare, which when she gets to wherever shes going with then has to go through the hassle of reinflating the original tyre and having the wheel fitted back on. What a guy :roll:
Some scrote stole my dust caps and I was livid, you can imagine how annoyed I would be at someone letting the air out of my tyres.
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yeah thatd be pretty creepy, cant be doing that sort of thing
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Its deception at the end of the day. She could have been shooting off somewhere straight after work for any number of things but instead she has to wait around while some muppet that let the air out of the tyres so nobly offers to fit the spare, which when she gets to wherever shes going with then has to go through the hassle of reinflating the original tyre and having the wheel fitted back on. What a guy :roll:
Some scrote stole my dust caps and I was livid, you can imagine how annoyed I would be at someone letting the air out of my tyres.
Sorry, but you are being somewhat melodramatic! I take it you was never one of the lads? Tis a mate of mine, who is actually a really good bloke. She did find out and thought it was quite amusing - and for the record, he did reinflate the tyre for her. :)
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before or after he killed her and stole her car?
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before or after he killed her and stole her car?
The bizarre twist that I bring to this post is that it was her who was a total psycho towards him. Perhaps, his pulling techniques may be frowned upon, but I can assure you that it was paid back ten fold!
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one of the more important messages to take from the game is that you should always leave the girl better off than before you interrupted her.
i.e. if shes liking the fact you spoke to her, great, compliment her, talk to her, ask her out.
if not make sure you apologise for interrupting and get out of her hair
i think the moral is if shes smiling, great, youve made her smile. if not, dont appear some stalker by ploughing through, just apologise and move on.
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try and catch her at the coffee machine or whatever, offer to buy her one, then slip some rohypnol in, bish bash bosh, job done, lets face it thats the only way youre gonna get her
Yeah? and what happens if she realises what you are up to and exchanges cups with the ugly bint behind her? You end up getting raped by the most ugliest one in the office right in front of the coffee machine. They gay bloke joins in, you are now known as Rodger DArsey and have to exit ASAP with your life ruined - forever.
Sleeping pills are a much better choice and then use reds option by offering to take her to hospital in your car. If she switches cups on you at least the ugly ones unconscious and you can put a bag over her head later.
Dont forget the condom, you dont want to be stuck with the bint, or paying maintainance for a damn ugly kid.
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Its deception at the end of the day. She could have been shooting off somewhere straight after work for any number of things but instead she has to wait around while some muppet that let the air out of the tyres so nobly offers to fit the spare, which when she gets to wherever shes going with then has to go through the hassle of reinflating the original tyre and having the wheel fitted back on. What a guy :roll:
Some scrote stole my dust caps and I was livid, you can imagine how annoyed I would be at someone letting the air out of my tyres.
Yeah, and a damn waste of time. You let the air out of the tyre and then go back to work, keeping an eye on her leaving and go out with her. This means you are paid for the time you wait and because you are with her there is no problem with being suspected of doing it...
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how many illegitimate children do you have? i would love to drop your name into the csa.
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how many illegitimate children do you have? i would love to drop your name into the csa.
None, I always wore two condoms... :P
Really though I never did either of those things.
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how many illegitimate children do you have? i would love to drop your name into the csa.
Plenty, I always wore two condoms... :P
Corrected.
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Sorry, but you are being somewhat melodramatic! I take it you was never one of the lads? Tis a mate of mine, who is actually a really good bloke. She did find out and thought it was quite amusing - and for the record, he did reinflate the tyre for her. :)
Im sure your mate is sound and all the rest, Im just giving my take on it. Interfering in someones life in such a way is not the best way to win a date with them, its akin to harassment. Im just pointing out, not everyone would be so easygoing about it. My first thought would be that the person is the nutjob/stalker type and Id be pretty angry about it.
I was one of the lads, I just never needed all these tricks to get into a womans underwear. :lol:
(they fit just right if I buy the right size)
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Denied! Shes engaged :(
Been an interesting thread tho.. may take a look at that book since its so popular
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Im curious, what was the brief run of your coversation then? Im sure others are intersted too :-)
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did i say id had a conversation? lol i asked a geezer on her team and got all the info i needed lol
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you are real man
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was easier since she leaves early and we are flat out at work so i couldnt get away
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did she have a ring on
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i do say, i DO SAY HOT DAMN. The random text which sprouts across the internet does lose all meaning of poise, dramatics and sarcasm.
serious, I was jesting. I do not wish my return to be strewn with the twists of the double edged sword known as humour.
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i think.... we need to have a tek party at Binary Shadows house, take him out, FORCE him to talk to girls and get him laid with 3 different girls in the same night.
if its not going to plan, we can all pull then shove bs into a dark room with whoever we get so he can pretend he is whoever pulled ?
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if its not going to plan, we can all pull then shove bs into a dark room with whoever we get so he can pretend he is whoever pulled ?
You just want to get hm alone in a dark room, admit it.
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another victim to knightys sharp fingernails.
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ok, seriously you guys all need to stop worrying so much when it comes to girls. were only human, same as you, and were really not that scary (except when the moon is full). just go over there, say hi and steer the conversation gently round to asking her out. whats the worst she can do? say no?
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whats the worst she can do? say no?
After I saw one of my girlfirend responding to a Scotsmans quip how about a **** I can certainly visualise other options...
I would prefer to keep my gonads in my pants and not my throat, thank you very much!
OK not exactly the average female but the risk remains. Another one stole all my chocolate stash : :shock: :o :cry:
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Just finished reading The Game, it was quite funny, but I see it more a how-not-to-be-a-creepy-geek thing than anything else.
Tip: "kiss-close" is way easier than "phone-close".
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I just talk to them, get common ground and then always ask about themselves as women love to talk about themselves.
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more a how-not-to-be-a-creepy-geek thing than anything else.
its amasing how many guys you see doing stuff like that.... you feel sorry for them and just want to say... mate, youve only just met her, and she doesent look intrested... stop putting youre arm around her !
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were only human,
no your not
no human bleeds for a week & still lives
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were only human,
no your not
no human bleeds for a week & still lives
LMAO
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ok, seriously you guys all need to stop worrying so much when it comes to girls. were only human, same as you, and were really not that scary (except when the moon is full). just go over there, say hi and steer the conversation gently round to asking her out. whats the worst she can do? say no?
Everyday girls arent exactly a challenge. But batting out of your league is tricky to pull off. Thats when it gets interesting :)
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I think I should warn everyone; I heard Knighty now has a copy of this book.
No one is safe.
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Everyday girls arent exactly a challenge. But batting out of your league is tricky to pull off. Thats when it gets interesting :)
Depends where you put your league though. If you hold the attitude that there is no league its not a problem.
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I think I should warn everyone; I heard Knighty now has a copy of this book.
No one is safe.
hi there
how you doing ?
you come here oftern ?
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hehhehehheehehehe :whoops:
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Everyday girls arent exactly a challenge. But batting out of your league is tricky to pull off. Thats when it gets interesting :)
Depends where you put your league though. If you hold the attitude that there is no league its not a problem.
Fair point :) I can usually tell pretty quickly when Im batting above my average unfortunately and it makes it harder to relax lol
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I’m not a ho or a “player” or anything. I like girls who don’t go out getting drunk every week, but for the newbies I’ll post this advice, which comes from ~10 years of light pub/club playing.
I said earlier that “kiss-close” is easier than “phone-close” right?
Looks dont matter. Ill walk through an easy and foundation "spontaneous" scenario:
You go into a pub. Its busy and there are loads of girls around. If there aren’t you need to scout all the pubs in the area and come back when you know where all the girls are. The place needs to be busy enough that everyone’s doing their own thing and not people-watching. Anyway, you walk in and you clock them, but you dont go by looks. You go by attitude and body language.
You clock the hos, the shy ones and the party ones in your head. The party ones are the right ones to target if you’re noob. The shy ones are for advanced users only in general. The ho’s you only ever play if you need attention from others. Ho’s are players; really you should only aim to rip the piss since theyre probably diseased. Don’t ever mistake ho for party or you’ll get owned.
Rule 0: Limit yourself to merry – don’t get wasted or you’ll look retarded. Decide between pulling or getting drunk after the 2nd pint.
“Spontaneous” is easier than is sounds. Take a phrase such as “where’s my kiss, then?”
Develop it:
“I’m talking to you, and being nice, even though *pick fault/make joke* so where’s my kiss, then?”
or
“It’s my birthday, so where’s my kiss then? Wait. You’re a good kisser, aren’t you?”
or
“She’s never twenty-two. How many birthday kisses has she had tonight?”
Etc
Easy “kiss-close” – ^ the second is easiest as you can play the kiss according to the situation. i.e. shy girl = peck on cheek. Ho/party girl = snog.
If you’re shy or noob this is good chatting cos:
1) You don’t have to talk to her much. She goes for it or she laughs it off. 80/20 you get a snog. All you have to do is say it in a non-pricky way.
2) You can walk away before it becomes awkward as it’s just a bit of fun.
3) As said, its a bit of fun. Dont need to be nervous because youre just having a laugh.
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“….Am I going to get some sex tonight?....” is also a good base, but obviously it takes more tact, development and/or charm to pull off. Say it like you don’t mean it. Sure, you might not get the buff brunette, but you’ll get her 7/10 mate who’s watching.
Either way, you need to link up early and then tell her laterz, or link up right at the end of the night. Otherwise you’ll be buying her drinks all night. Never buy drinks unless you’ve known her for at least two hours. Buying drinks for new girls means you are a mug.
This is all foundation. But if you’re noob you need to learn to be cool and disinterested with kissing random girls or them humping your leg and stuff before you can rely on your own personality and humour to get you laid.
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more a how-not-to-be-a-creepy-geek thing than anything else.
its amasing how many guys you see doing stuff like that.... you feel sorry for them and just want to say... mate, youve only just met her, and she doesent look intrested... stop putting youre arm around her !
or do the other extreme and grab three random girls youve just met and have a big group hug
though Im now in a bit of trouble on Monday as I took two of them into the office (just dropping my lap top off before moving on) and a couple of the techies working on the night shift did not look amused - especially when one of them pulled his pony tail then asked to stroke his beard. :shock:
methinks I owe him lots of beers to keep it quiet
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^^^ rofl
and
Fair point I can usually tell pretty quickly when Im batting above my average unfortunately and it makes it harder to relax lol
tbh, Im not happy if Im not chatting up the best girl in the place... and of there isnt one good enough in the place I wont bother trying or Ill move on.... theres no point aiming too low !