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Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 23:07:16 PM
So 24th June in the UK?!

Prices seem good......although I think they will be a lot more. Maybe them prices, but an expensive contract?

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Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 23:32:50 PM
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But its not a good lens.

Its too small, and too close to the CCD.


That does not seem true going on the specs.
http://gizmodo.com/5557622/this-is-how-the-new-iphone-4s-photos-look
Under optimal conditions of course

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/photo_01.jpg

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Aperture: 2.97
Color space: Uncalibrated
Date and time: 2010/05/07 15:14
Exposure: Auto exposure
Exposure time: 1/887
Flash: Flash did not fire, auto mode
FNumber: 2.8
Focal length: 3.85
ISO speed rating: 80
Metering mode: Spot
Sharpness: Hard
White balance: Auto


That is decent enough for me

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Reply #17 on: June 08, 2010, 04:28:14 AM
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Il be getting one.
Camera MP:
now I do not really care as long as it takes a decent picture. Flash was what I really wanted.
Ill take a picture or two at a party or out and about as a quick thing.
Snap a photo or video and it will go up on facebook etc.
If Im going to take real decent photos I will take my proper camera or
my girlfriend will have hers in her bag or when you have your rucksack etc.

Camera phone : quick stuff, parties.
Real phone: when I know I will intend to take pictures.



Hes right. A camera phone is when your mate falls over outside and you want to snap it. A proper camera is when you visit the Colosseum.

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Reply #18 on: June 08, 2010, 07:37:26 AM
 :drama: I never thought Id see Sam saying Nexus is right!!

How times change!

I think Ive had a camera on my phones for the last 6 years, and have probably taken less than 1 photo a year which I have kept for whatever reason, be it a memorable event or an actually decent shot.

The problem with them on smartphones, or at least the android, is that to me at least the steps between seeing the shot and getting the camera activated and taking the shot are too long and fiddly, by then the moment is gone, so even though I havent left the house without a camera in over half a decade, Ive not made use of it! If I had a crash and needed to take photos for evidence/insurance I doubt Id even remember I had the camera on the phone, unless someone else starts using theirs!

Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #19 on: June 08, 2010, 08:26:04 AM
It looks nice, but its still just a nice walled garden.

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Reply #20 on: June 08, 2010, 09:06:37 AM
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It looks nice, but its still just a nice walled garden.


explain or die.

Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #21 on: June 08, 2010, 09:41:56 AM
You cant do anything with the IOS Software.  Its locked down so much, thats why people jail break them.

Its do as we tell you, not do as you please.

And before you start, Rooting is different.  Its like the administrator account, or Root in linux ;)

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Reply #22 on: June 08, 2010, 10:35:55 AM
So your going to make an app.
What can you not do that you would want to and why do you want to do it?

Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #23 on: June 08, 2010, 10:56:29 AM
Id not want an iPhone :D

Why do people pay 2010 prices for a 2008 phone?

Video Calling, Big Whoop.  Most 3G Phones since the dawn of time have had the ability to do that.
Multitasking?  Every WM/CE/Symbian phone can do it.
Retina Display?  Just get a phone with a high res screen, similar resolutions have been around for a few years.

For example :

HTC Desire,
Doesnt do video calling (not many android phones do, but who actually video calls anyway?)
Multitasks, with intelligent task manager
480 X 800 WVGA (Not quite as high as the iP4
3G, Wifi, Longer talk/standby times
Dont have to remortgage.


Looks nice though, although I hope they continue with the Android iPhone project :D

Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #24 on: June 08, 2010, 11:16:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoqh27E6OuU#

Amusing...I wonder how Ballmer would have reacted?  Baseball Bats? Repeating the word Developers?

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Reply #25 on: June 08, 2010, 11:25:09 AM
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:drama: I never thought Id see Sam saying Nexus is right!!

How times change!


Its a glitch in the nexus, one sec and Ill get the brain adjusting spanner... ^_^

TBH the equipment doesnt matter providing it does what you want it to. For a few quick snapshots a camera phone is totally adequate.

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Reply #26 on: June 08, 2010, 11:30:12 AM
Sooph, I am far far from a apple fan boy but your a prime example of a hater, lol.

Moans about things but can not quite put down a valid argument agaisnt.
No phone has the screen res this iphone has and the tech for this and other current gen phones like the HTC offerings have only been available recently through manufacturers. To say they been around for years is not true. That is for any phone not just this one.

As for the demo glitch...
Android flash demo went badly wrong too, it happens to everyone. Was not a phone glitch at the apple one but a wifi issue, One Apple and Others have had at the location. Apple and others have actually complained a number of times about it before and its not been sorted properly Still. MS had similar issues at an xbox event there not to long ago apperently.

Specs - pff. Head to head you will always find a phone that beats another phone at something, not everything but it is all tit for tat and I always find people who do that or try to do that on points is silly if you ask me, its just Top Trumps which is a childs game and silly kids argue over who has the better card.

Looking at the whole package this is a very nice phone and good pricing compared to other new smartphones. A lot of people have questioned why android based phones cost as they do considering the OS and where it comes from, they should not be that high. Whole idea was to drive prices down with that OS, not happened.

I think android OS is a great OS but head to head multitasking iphone os4 has been outdoing it from what I have read. Next version in the works from google is looking to better this aspect of the phone.
Windows mobile 7 will not have multitasking to start with.

You can go on and on....

Oh, you avoided my question. I asked that today to one of the guys at work who said the same thing as you. Could not actually come out with a valid example, could not think of anything.
It is a locked down OS but Apple has reasons but it does not prevent you making most apps you would use on the system. Jailbreaking reasons get less and less all the time on iphone. Less people actually do figures show.

Apple are not perfect by a long run but this is a good phone and I will get one it looks dam good and its not as wide and its thinner then the 3GS and that is a big selling point for me, I hate thick phones.

At the end of the day you get the phone that appeals to you, it is like a car. You like what you like and may not be what another person likes.
SO WHAT?
No point doing the old top trumps bitching in my opinion.

Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #27 on: June 08, 2010, 11:41:07 AM
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Sooph, I am far far from a apple fan boy but your a prime example of a hater, lol.

Moans about things but can not quite put down a valid argument agaisnt.
No phone has the screen res this iphone has and the tech for this and other current gen phones like the HTC offerings have only been available recently through manufacturers. To say they been around for years is not true. That is for any phone not just this one.

As for the demo glitch...
Android flash demo went badly wrong too, it happens to everyone. Was not a phone glitch at the apple one but a wifi issue, One Apple and Others have had at the location. Apple and others have actually complained a number of times about it before and its not been sorted properly Still. MS had similar issues at an xbox event there not to long ago apperently.

Specs - pff. Head to head you will always find a phone that beats another phone at something, not everything but it is all tit for tat and I always find people who do that or try to do that on points is silly if you ask me, its just Top Trumps which is a childs game and silly kids argue over who has the better card.

Looking at the whole package this is a very nice phone and good pricing compared to other new smartphones. A lot of people have questioned why android based phones cost as they do considering the OS and where it comes from, they should not be that high. Whole idea was to drive prices down with that OS, not happened.

I think android OS is a great OS but head to head multitasking iphone os4 has been outdoing it from what I have read. Next version in the works from google is looking to better this aspect of the phone.
Windows mobile 7 will not have multitasking to start with.

You can go on and on....

Oh, you avoided my question. I asked that today to one of the guys at work who said the same thing as you. Could not actually come out with a valid example, could not think of anything.
It is a locked down OS but Apple has reasons but it does not prevent you making most apps you would use on the system. Jailbreaking reasons get less and less all the time on iphone. Less people actually do figures show.

Apple are not perfect by a long run but this is a good phone and I will get one it looks dam good and its not as wide and its thinner then the 3GS and that is a big selling point for me, I hate thick phones.

At the end of the day you get the phone that appeals to you, it is like a car. You like what you like and may not be what another person likes.
SO WHAT?
No point doing the old top trumps bitching in my opinion.


Whoa Whoa Whoa.
I am a one man hate squad against Apple.  Their products are overpriced toys.  Why spend so much over the odds for a Logo?
If you want to waste your money, go for it.  The more sensible of us will go for the Androids, the WebOSs, the Symbians and the Blackberry.
Forced into using Apples hateful proprietary software, The Flash argument thats going on is prime example of "Do as we say"

The glitch was unfortunate, thats all.  I wasnt digging on it.

Its not a good price at all, the $99 they show on the screen is on the very expensive and very low value for money contracts they bundle this hateful device with.


Ive only used an iPhone in passing, and wasnt impressed at all.  Certainly not enough to spend £200 more than a similarly featured phone.
Now, go pass your gall stone.





Its got some nice new features, but ground breaking it is not.

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Re:Iphone 4G
Reply #28 on: June 08, 2010, 13:04:12 PM
I must be the only person here who uses his phone tons as a camera then :whoops:

Im still on an N82 so I cant talk much, all modern phones seem lacking in the two things I care about, battery life, and camera! Im waiting for the N8 as it should have a monster camera and wont come locked down as per soopahs points above.

Iphone 4G
Reply #29 on: June 08, 2010, 13:39:09 PM
Apple arent generally about having great ideas and putting them forward ahead of other people.

What they are fantastic at is taking ideas from multiple sources putting them in one package and polishing it into a smooth fluid experience.

Everything works, everything has the same feel, everything feels like it was made by a team of people looking for excellence.

Other things feel cobbled together to try and be first or catch up.

It isnt about having the most access to every possible feature or bring limited on what you can do. It is about making sure that what you can do is the best it can be at the time.

And it looks like apple may again succeed with that.

I have used many other products and while they may be more open they never seem as intuitive as apples alternative as "inferior" as it may be.

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