Jobs is arrogant.  I reckon theyll leave GPS and 3G off, and tell us we didnt want it to begin with.

lol for once I agree with the chickmeister Could very likely happen

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Just to point out this is the US version, with very tight and ridged phone service, By the time it hits the EU it may loose some features and have 3g due to the poor coverage, who knows, they may deal with 3g as the service provider for all we know but wi-fi is certanly the way forward for the mobile phone

I agree with Eggtastico.  Wifi is not the way forward, let a lone a current solution for the reasons you gave yourself nexus,  the coverage of free wifi, let alone wifi is not even noticable compared to the current 3G/GPRS coverage.

If you have any experiance with the commercial world you will know/find people on the move with buisness spec laptops, they will have built in wifi so they can use it in the office or places that it will be available to them.  

The only places I am able to use Wifi is in the office, at home, or at a client with their permission of course.

But, 80-90 % of the time, they will use a GPRS or 3G expansion card from their mobile provider to get a connection and get to their mail.  Even those with PDAs/Smartphones will use a 3G/ GPRS connection to synchronise there mail.

Theres no question its Wifi > 3G > GPRS > Wap in order of preferance, but its just not worth throwing a hissy fit over features such as wifi when there is bugger all access.

You did not read my post then, where I said how broadband companies are keen in the mobile industry merging everything together and increasing coverage meaning it would be worth it then ^^
Who said now, its not here in the uk at all, hence why I even said the spec will probably change for the Eu version and how it may even end up witha  deal with 3G ^ ^

Even with the UKs relatively cramped population Wi-Fi doesnt have enough range to make it a viable option except in population centres like cities. Otherwise its going to be local spots here and there, you have to know where they are and overall it will be a pain, even if its free.

A few generations down the line though and its going to outstrip everything else - the problem then will be which wi-fi can you legally use? Even if the person leaves it open you might still be liable for prosecution, and I didnt know they didnt just want everyone to use it might not be a defence. Then again for the one that leaves it open, what if something like kiddiepron is detected going through their point? Could they be arrested for it?

Of course the council/government could operate it, pay the costs and tax everyone. Issue with this will be they always pay through the nose for everything and will it be unfair to those who dont use it at all?

Dont expect the phone companies to give up easily on this either, if you have free Wi-Fi everywhere you also have free phone access and access to TV and music whenever you want too. They certainly will not be pleased about that when people stop using their devices and services.

Weather forecast: expect massive clouds of lobbyists around politicians everywhere.

Of course I read it but It made no sense.

Who is 3G?  If you mean three, I wouldnt touch them with a jousting lance.

Its a what, not a who, and if you dont know and cant be bothered to find out what the latest telephony standards and methods are perhaps you shouldnt be commenting. if you dont know your ignorance only makes you look stupider. Go google or something.

ROFLMAO

Revolutionary Mobile Phone (scan 1, scan 2)

- Dial any telephone number with the touch of a finger
- Create and manage a list of telephone numbers you call most
- If you choose to answer the call, the video will pause and resume once the call ends
- iPhone syncs contact information from the computer to iPhone (from Address Book on a Mac or Outlook or Outlook Express on a Windows PC).
- Built-in speakerphone
- iPhone lets you carry on a phone conversation while you simultaneously browse the Internet or send an email.
- There is a vibrate mode.

- Most phones actually involve use of a finger. In fact my phone simply requires me to shout abracadabra and a name and it calls

- Oh you mean like most recent calls.

- Clever... Apple found the pause button.

- Oh goodie... much like any phone from the last 3 years really.

- wow... think every phone ive ever had has had a speakerphone, and I had my first mobile aged 13.

- Yup... ive already experienced the joy of browsing porn whilst talking to ones mate

- Wooaahh revolutionary dude... careful, a nokia 3210 may come and out-vibrate you.

Roflmao... apple really are farsical. Why would the above make it a "revolutionary phone", the tech there has been around in all other phones pretty much since the dark ages.

The rest of the manual is equally as much of a joke as that bit.

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Who is 3G?  If you mean three, I wouldnt touch them with a jousting lance.

Its a what, not a who, and if you dont know and cant be bothered to find out what the latest telephony standards and methods are perhaps you shouldnt be commenting. if you dont know your ignorance only makes you look stupider. Go google or something.

I can understand the confusion.  Im well aware of "what" 3G is.  I said "who" is 3G when nexus said....

"hence why I even said the spec will probably change for the Eu version and how it may even end up witha deal with 3G"

Implying 3G as an actual company, as metalhead also pointed out.  I swearmost people think that three are the only 3G capable company in UK, if not the first company people think of is three.  

Implying 3G as an actual company, as metalhead also pointed out.  I swearmost people think that three are the only 3G capable company in UK, if not the first company people think of is three.  

Its a consortium of companies and interested parties that back and plan the standard. 3 is a company that uses it.

3g chip ban shinanagins
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40222

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Quote from: Cypher

Implying 3G as an actual company, as metalhead also pointed out.  I swearmost people think that three are the only 3G capable company in UK, if not the first company people think of is three.  

Its a consortium of companies and interested parties that back and plan the standard. 3 is a company that uses it.

Actually 3G is the name given to a group of standards not just one standard.

3GPP or 3GGF (3G Global Forum??) I believe is the name of the consortium of folk that are developing it.

There are quite a few 3G consortiums going now, bit I thought I would keep it simple