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M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #45 on:** November 06, 2007, 18:31:07 PM

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Reply #45 on: November 06, 2007, 18:31:07 PM

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne

Wow yet more sterling hyperbole.

I am starting to love your exaggerated posts the more I read them, have you got a newsletter?

You know I could have moved ten or so posts across to populate the new forum, but I figured it would populate itself, and what do you know: someone has come along with INITIATIVE instead of whining about it and created a useful first post.

Nige you wouldnt recognise initiative if it was the size of Michael Moore, and it sat on your face.

Niges word of the year: Hyperbole.

Definition: A boldly exaggerated statement that adds emphasis without in-tending to be literally true, as in the statement "He ate everything in the house." Hyperbole (also called overstatement) may be used for serious, comic, or ironic effect. See also figures of speech.

Why thank you for seeing the point of my post, I assume you agree that in reality the change is pointless, the forum is denying its own identity in trying to become a technical forum, and ultimately the problem is the lack of members, not the topics that the members discuss.

The reasoning behind my thinking...

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5,590 registered users logged in.
107,724 users total.

Those are the current stats of Somethingawful.com, its a forum entirely dedicated to lifestyle type topics.... dont seem to be struggling with members, and they have a subscription based model.

Like I said... lack of exposure, perhaps the fact were trying to be a technical forum when in truth very few of our members actually possess any technical knowledge, beyond guesswork, or what theyve picked up whilst asking questions here is discouraging for new members? is the problem. Not the arrangement of our topics.

FWIW... I used to scroll down anyway to view general hardware, however I find it about as entertaining as watching paint dry with on average (guess) probably 10 general discussion posts to every 1 made in general hardware.

What makes more sense is to have the higher usage forums up top. The dead ones... down low.

Its clear the lifestyle people are the more active posters here, as opposed to technical. Even if there appear to be less of us, makes sense to appease the needs of your more "loyal" (wrong word but you get the gist) members, than to cater to the needs of mostly inactive (in comparison) members.

mr_roll · **Reply #46 on:** November 06, 2007, 19:48:10 PM

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Reply #46 on: November 06, 2007, 19:48:10 PM

Im used to it now.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #47 on:** November 06, 2007, 21:19:14 PM

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Reply #47 on: November 06, 2007, 21:19:14 PM

Quote from: M3ta7h3ad

Snip.

You do make me laugh when youre taking offence.

Well I could sit back on my arse because youre content with what you have, but Im willing to do what I can to promote every facet of the forums.

You werent here at the start, you dont have the legacy of a lot of members have that would love to have the old days back and look at them fondly when we were mostly hardware based. Somehow your use of the word identity comes across as a bit sanctimonious in that respect, and I dont mean that with any sort of disrespect.

Frankly the lifestyle people are more than catered for. In fact too catered for IMO. Half of them cant decide if bikes should be seperate from cars or not. Things like that are no going to drive these forums anywhere.

Comparing us to Somethingawful is silly, if youre going to draw a comparison at least do it with forums of a size that marries up and is at least/was at least in a relatively similar vein, i.e ocuk, hexus, etc.

Thats also part of the problem, were no longer tied to a shop any more so its harder to draw members with relevant interests.

Serious · **Reply #48 on:** November 06, 2007, 21:24:39 PM

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Reply #48 on: November 06, 2007, 21:24:39 PM

Quote from: M3ta7h3ad

Hyperbole (also called overstatement) may be used for Serious

You toad!

M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #49 on:** November 06, 2007, 21:28:24 PM

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Reply #49 on: November 06, 2007, 21:28:24 PM

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne

Quote from: M3ta7h3ad

Snip.

You do make me laugh when youre taking offence.

Well I could sit back on my arse because youre content with what you have, but Im willing to do what I can to promote every facet of the forums.

You werent here at the start, you dont have the legacy of a lot of members have that would love to have the old days back and look at them fondly when we were mostly hardware based. Somehow your use of the word identity comes across as a bit sanctimonious in that respect, and I dont mean that with any sort of disrespect.

Frankly the lifestyle people are more than catered for. In fact too catered for IMO. Half of them cant decide if bikes should be seperate from cars or not. Things like that are no going to drive these forums anywhere.

Comparing us to Somethingawful is silly, if youre going to draw a comparison at least do it with forums of a size that marries up and is at least/was at least in a relatively similar vein, i.e ocuk, hexus, etc.

Thats also part of the problem, were no longer tied to a shop any more so its harder to draw members with relevant interests.

Ive been here since april 2004. Thats a darn sight longer than just a newbie.

Granted, I wasnt here for the great egg frying of 2002, but I was here during the time that it was a technical forum. Truth be known I love technical stuff, I often find myself googling away for techie sites. I read for many hours about web 3.0/the semantic web, electronic projects, ham radio, cryptography, all sorts of brilliant technical subjects however tekforums is about as technical as my dad.

He knows how to use a blackberry, but ask him something remotely technical and hell flounder, or with luck hes seen something on google before.

This whole layout change is ugh... I dislike it because I just dont see the sense in putting some of the least popular forums at the top of the site (somewhat like advertising that we are inactive...) when google makes no differentiation between the order of forums when people search and get keywords relating to us, and if people browse a site, they typically do scroll downwards.

I really think that changing the forum order around is much like shoving ones fingers in their ears and singing "i dont believe in god", whilst the rapture occurs around you.

Its not a solution to the problem, just a sugar pill.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #50 on:** November 06, 2007, 22:29:26 PM

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Reply #50 on: November 06, 2007, 22:29:26 PM

Its just one aspect of the bigger picture, so Id rather wait and see what happens.

Ive got people PMing me all sorts of ideas that are worth looking into, so its not simply a sugar pill as you put it.

TBH everyone is lucky were so democratic and listen to what the members are saying. A lot of forums would simply make the change and say this is what youre getting, like it or lump it. But Id much rather take on board everyones views (even if they are lumbered in with criticism) than simply dictate.

knighty · **Reply #51 on:** November 06, 2007, 23:28:10 PM

Layout...

Reply #51 on: November 06, 2007, 23:28:10 PM

/me votes for a dictatorship

Quixoticish · **Reply #52 on:** November 07, 2007, 00:00:04 AM

Layout...

Reply #52 on: November 07, 2007, 00:00:04 AM

Quote from: knighty

/me votes for a dictatorship

QFE

Cypher · **Reply #53 on:** November 07, 2007, 00:15:17 AM

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Reply #53 on: November 07, 2007, 00:15:17 AM

All hail Lord Nigel.

Giver, Keeper and eater of the cake.

This thread is funny.

Clock'd 0Ne · **Reply #54 on:** November 07, 2007, 09:17:06 AM

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Reply #54 on: November 07, 2007, 09:17:06 AM

CAKE or DEATH!

mrt · **Reply #55 on:** November 16, 2007, 10:25:38 AM

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Reply #55 on: November 16, 2007, 10:25:38 AM

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne

CAKE or DEATH!

I first read that as Cake OF Death! ..... Im hungry and would still probably eat it.

Having been a member for a period of time and have pretty much been here as a non-member for just as long ... my opinion as follows;

I think we offer too broad an offering of different forums to specifically be tek driven. We have a lot of members who are here as a result of a specific forum, for me its the Photography forum and Lifestyle areas. I am too interested in the tek stuff, but thats defo not my primary for coming here.

I find that the areas of tech I indulge in, are better catered elsewhere. (ie. greenbutton for Media Center stuff or AVforums for err AV). I think we should focus on the fact that we have grown and it is not the old days. Why should it be a problem to open up and focus on what everyone wants? I think someone should address which forums are the most busiest and chuck them at the top (surely that is the best option). If it was down to me I would add in some new areas, thus encoaching (is that even a word, kinda made it up) new people to join. Having larger forum variety increases the chances to getting new members. I also personally think a definitive set of mods (I am not clear about who the mods are other than Nige and Sam and I have been a member for ages?).

Perhaps, something should be done with the arguing as well! There should be immediate monthly bannage for anyone who posts anything that can be classed as name calling. This will prevent the arguing continuing. We all have different opinions and all have a right to be heard, but the moment someone calls someone else stupid, well its just going to carry on. Nige, you have responded to others in this manner, this is no better? Just temp ban em!

Nige, how about you open a sticky and leave it open till the new year. We can all post our would likes and ideas in. This thread can then be free for all to view, so we can see each others ideas. You can then in the new year break it down to a voting contest for each idea, and whether its a greater yay or nay, implement (or not) as appropriate. At least then we can all get what we want. If its too much work ... again, ask some of us for some of our time.

These forums really need sorting out as they have noticably been dwindling. Be nice for something fresh and new for the new year?

I hope noone takes any offence to anything I have said as its not meant in any other way than sorting these forums out. I have found better forums, but have some bizarre family feeling about this place, even though it is up and down.

M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #56 on:** November 16, 2007, 10:41:27 AM

Re:Layout...

Reply #56 on: November 16, 2007, 10:41:27 AM

Quote from: mrt

Quote from: Clockd 0Ne
CAKE or DEATH!

I first read that as Cake OF Death! ..... Im hungry and would still probably eat it.

Having been a member for a period of time and have pretty much been here as a non-member for just as long ... my opinion as follows;

I think we offer too broad an offering of different forums to specifically be tek driven. We have a lot of members who are here as a result of a specific forum, for me its the Photography forum and Lifestyle areas. I am too interested in the tek stuff, but thats defo not my primary for coming here.

I find that the areas of tech I indulge in, are better catered elsewhere. (ie. greenbutton for Media Center stuff or AVforums for err AV). I think we should focus on the fact that we have grown and it is not the old days. Why should it be a problem to open up and focus on what everyone wants? I think someone should address which forums are the most busiest and chuck them at the top (surely that is the best option). If it was down to me I would add in some new areas, thus encoaching (is that even a word, kinda made it up) new people to join. Having larger forum variety increases the chances to getting new members. I also personally think a definitive set of mods (I am not clear about who the mods are other than Nige and Sam and I have been a member for ages?).

Perhaps, something should be done with the arguing as well! There should be immediate monthly bannage for anyone who posts anything that can be classed as name calling. This will prevent the arguing continuing. We all have different opinions and all have a right to be heard, but the moment someone calls someone else stupid, well its just going to carry on. Nige, you have responded to others in this manner, this is no better? Just temp ban em!

Nige, how about you open a sticky and leave it open till the new year. We can all post our would likes and ideas in. This thread can then be free for all to view, so we can see each others ideas. You can then in the new year break it down to a voting contest for each idea, and whether its a greater yay or nay, implement (or not) as appropriate. At least then we can all get what we want. If its too much work ... again, ask some of us for some of our time.

These forums really need sorting out as they have noticably been dwindling. Be nice for something fresh and new for the new year?

I hope noone takes any offence to anything I have said as its not meant in any other way than sorting these forums out. I have found better forums, but have some bizarre family feeling about this place, even though it is up and down.

QFE

mrt · **Reply #57 on:** November 16, 2007, 10:54:39 AM

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Reply #57 on: November 16, 2007, 10:54:39 AM

Had to wiki what QFE was ... he he he!!

M3ta7h3ad · **Reply #58 on:** November 16, 2007, 11:20:35 AM

Layout...

Reply #58 on: November 16, 2007, 11:20:35 AM

was gonna put QFT... but aye

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