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Reply #165 on: August 21, 2010, 19:12:17 PM
A new Mercedes with traction control is faster than an Aston but the Aston looks better and cost more I believe.

Really, a good morden nix distro ( tinkered with to ones liking and needs) and a high end puter must be the cheapest alternative in most cases, good filesystem (ext4)
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Reply #166 on: August 22, 2010, 01:41:14 AM
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So while I think a Mac is a viable alternative to windows, Ive seen nothing that can answer my question - why are they so expensive ?


Because apple can get away with charging those prices.

Mixture of things I guess - part of it is obviously the design/branding in itself. Apple does invest a lot in product design, they spend a lot more money than most simply making sure the product looks and feels good. Some windows based laptop manufacturers will just get a generic looking case and fit the components in - if you just want something that does the job has xyz components then obviously dont go for the mac. Same reason some people may pay more for jeans from diesel and turn their nose up at jeans from primark they either like the design or are suckers for brand names or maybe a bit of both.

A few girls I know who own macs do so because theyre adamant that everyone knows macs are better than PCs so Id say there are a significant number of mac users who have simply fallen for apples marketing and/or macs reputation as a stable platform from the days when windows wasnt always that great has stuck somewhat.

Macs used to have a big edge when it came to anything involving graphics - although this edge is pretty much non-existant these days a lot of people in the supposedly creative industries have been using macs for years and continue to do so.

Theyre not as expensive as everyone makes out really - sure you can get some very cheap windows laptops etc.. but if you were to spec up a similar high spec dell you wouldnt have a huge gap in price. I know plenty of people who own macs - for some people if youre going to spend a grand or so on a laptop then dropping a couple hundred extra to get a mac isnt a big deal. Apple customer service pretty much beats anyone else too. I ordered the wrong display port cable for my mac - my mistake, phoned up expecting to have to RMA it etc.. they just sent me the correct one for free.

Apple does have a bit of a lock on OSX - if you like OSX youre forced (in most cases) to buy a mac - obviously some people will go down the hackintosh route but youre talking about a a very small minority of computer geeks.

Theyre a quality, albeit slightly overpriced, product - Ive got a reasonable amount of disposable income so Im happy to pay a premium ad get a mac for my general home computer type stuff.

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Reply #167 on: August 22, 2010, 02:28:09 AM
I just cant stand the OS.  It works fine for mobile devices like the iPhone and iPad but for a work machine... bleaargh.  Its like a Fisher Price toy.

Like Apple.  Hate Macs.

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Reply #168 on: August 22, 2010, 05:07:09 AM
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Apple customer service pretty much beats anyone else too. I ordered the wrong display port cable for my mac - my mistake, phoned up expecting to have to RMA it etc.. they just sent me the correct one for free.


It wasnt that long ago, around christmas, that Apple was having a major issues with their 27" Imac displays, from cracked screens to yellow lines and such, and from reading several sites like Gizmodo / CNET / Appleinsider etc etc it seem to be a worldwide issue, and from what i read was not being dealt with in usual Apple Customer Service fashion.

You can do a google search now and find plenty of websites reporting on the matter, and plenty of user comments by hundreds (thousands) of unhappy customers all moaning about how it was being dealt with. I remember now that people were being told different causes for the issues, and Apple stores were not admitting any liability for damaged screens even though 100s reported their Macs arrived without any damage to packaging.

Im not trying to bash them, i just say it how i read it, it went on for weeks and had a lot of coverage.
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Reply #169 on: August 22, 2010, 07:59:02 AM
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I just cant stand the OS.  It works fine for mobile devices like the iPhone and iPad but for a work machine... bleaargh.  Its like a Fisher Price toy.


You do know iOS and OSX are nothing alike?

Which bit of osx do you think is "Fisher Price" like. Not the finder presumably?

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Windows 7:

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Reply #170 on: August 22, 2010, 10:02:06 AM
So the windows one is better. Thats twice youve posted up images to support macs, but twice theyve just blatantly make windows look better.

Are you really a windows user ;)

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Reply #171 on: August 22, 2010, 17:30:13 PM
I was asking how it looked "Fisher Price". The two are practically identical (except for useless chrome effects in the Windows one).
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Reply #172 on: August 22, 2010, 17:39:26 PM
Tried it for 6 months and didnt like it, it seems they do everything opposite to MS, didnt seem very user friendly to me.

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Reply #173 on: August 22, 2010, 18:32:06 PM
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I was asking how it looked "Fisher Price". The two are practically identical (except for useless chrome effects in the Windows one).


One thing that annoys me is that I have to go to the menu bar to get the location in text (ie, I often want to copy n paste the directory path).

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Reply #174 on: August 22, 2010, 22:57:02 PM
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I was asking how it looked "Fisher Price". The two are practically identical (except for useless chrome effects in the Windows one).


One thing that annoys me is that I have to go to the menu bar to get the location in text (ie, I often want to copy n paste the directory path).


I do ALT+D then Control+C. Probs a ~1s operation...

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Reply #175 on: August 23, 2010, 01:42:03 AM
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A few girls I know who own macs do so because theyre adamant that everyone knows macs are better than PCs so Id say there are a significant number of mac users who have simply fallen for apples marketing and/or macs reputation as a stable platform from the days when windows wasnt always that great has stuck somewhat.


Doing some things, mostly because of the limited hardware you can add, its easier for Essex Girl or guy to operate a MAC than a PC. That has been their traditional advantage. Because Apple supplied the main peripherals you could guarantee the drivers would work too.

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Reply #176 on: August 23, 2010, 08:30:17 AM
i still cant get flash working in firefox on my up to date ubuntu laptop.Ive always had problems with ubuntu. PITA.

the mac does me well although coming to mac from windows in much the same way as sam, i have exactly the same windows mgmt issues. spaces is an awesome addition though, i wont use windows again til it does that.

bet someone knows an add on for windows that does it now. lol.


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Reply #177 on: August 23, 2010, 09:27:57 AM
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i still cant get flash working in firefox on my up to date ubuntu laptop.Ive always had problems with ubuntu. PITA.

the mac does me well although coming to mac from windows in much the same way as sam, i have exactly the same windows mgmt issues. spaces is an awesome addition though, i wont use windows again til it does that.

bet someone knows an add on for windows that does it now. lol.



Du you have Lucid ? I had some trouble with flash but that was a few distroes back, install Ubuntu Tweak  add adobes repository and install Adobe flash also search for Medibuntu and add repository.

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Reply #178 on: August 23, 2010, 09:55:36 AM
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Reply #179 on: August 23, 2010, 21:23:30 PM

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