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Re:Macs ? Whats the point ?
Reply #180 on: September 27, 2010, 15:25:12 PM
First major UK supplier onboard.



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Reply #181 on: September 27, 2010, 19:53:45 PM
This irritates me, not just in macs but in general:



k Im sure once youve spent 20mins hovering your mouse over stuff it gets second nature but its hardly good design is it? Its not just mac - Office 2007 did it and its really bad design imo. Our helpdesk have to say stuff like click on the thing that looks like 3 lines instead of click on tools then *whatever paragraph option*. This wouldnt be a problem except most users are f**king stupid. The average user can read and click their left mouse button. Thats about it. Abstract concepts are too much for them.


Blackberry do it too:

 :gag: Ok, click on the blackberry button
 :drool: The what button?
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Re:Macs ? Whats the point ?
Reply #182 on: September 27, 2010, 20:09:29 PM
Couldnt agree more. I actually didnt know the red/yellow/green things did anything. Im guessing red closes?

Icons are fine when it is obvious what they do, but as you said strange abstract concepts do not make good icons.

I also despise what theyve done to the recent incarnations of Office.

Re:Macs ? Whats the point ?
Reply #183 on: September 28, 2010, 08:37:16 AM
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Couldnt agree more. I actually didnt know the red/yellow/green things did anything. Im guessing red closes?

Icons are fine when it is obvious what they do, but as you said strange abstract concepts do not make good icons.

I also despise what theyve done to the recent incarnations of Office.


Thats a bug that really pisses me off.  The Minimise, maximise, close buttons that do nothing at all.


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Reply #184 on: September 28, 2010, 09:23:40 AM
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The average user can read and click their left mouse button. Thats about it. Abstract concepts are too much for them.


users should be trained. the first step to a happy user is showing him how to use the kit your forcing on him.

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Reply #185 on: September 28, 2010, 20:51:31 PM
The "maximise" button on a mac is retarded. Its "fit to content" not actually maximise, so if your window is small, but the content is smaller, it doesnt do anything.

Yes, very good apple.

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Reply #186 on: September 28, 2010, 20:54:49 PM
Have three grey dots in me ubuntu but they work as minimize, maximize and close though.

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Reply #187 on: September 28, 2010, 21:20:52 PM
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The "maximise" button on a mac is retarded. Its "fit to content" not actually maximise, so if your window is small, but the content is smaller, it doesnt do anything.

Yes, very good apple.


totally agree on that one.
found a window manager called shift which means i have a keyboard shortcut to make it maximised, which is quicker. nice.

Matt

Re:Macs ? Whats the point ?
Reply #188 on: September 29, 2010, 13:37:56 PM
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The average user can read and click their left mouse button. Thats about it. Abstract concepts are too much for them.


users should be trained. the first step to a happy user is showing him how to use the kit your forcing on him.


agreed, and also showing them why they should care.

If a user has a way of doing something which works for them, they need a very good reason to switch to something new. Some users can be very inventive when coming up with ways to avoid using a new system which they dont see the point of.

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