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National 20mph limit on urban (30mph) roads.
knighty:
seams daft to me.... there's a lot of 30 roads which 30+ is perfectly safe
I don't think lowering the limit will make any difference to the mongs who go flying past kids playing out etc.
Clock'd 0Ne:
--- Quote from: M3ta7h3ad on July 17, 2022, 19:10:03 PM ---Why is cycling or using public transport impossible with a family? People travel with entire families on bikes all the time now and as a kid we used to ride the bus and train to go everywhere as we only had one car and my dad worked away.
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Every accident I have seen recently on my morning nursery runs has been children knocked off bicycles. Not only do I not trust other road users one bit, but until all cars are electric it is not healthy to be cycling along breathing in absolute toxic sh*t constantly, it baffles me that keep-fit folk don't seem to mind this. IMO cycling British roads is asking to become a statistic, but aside from my views on that, my eldest son is autistic anyway so he cannot cycle and even if he could would not have any danger awareness or be able to be allowed to do so. We strap him into our car seat with an additional harness so he can't climb out. Then factor in trying to squeeze shopping for a family of four in. That's before you've even considered pushchairs and prams, where do they fit in? It's just never, ever going to happen. Even if it could because I had older kids, I would always choose the safety and comfort of a car for my family over this impractical nonsense. I unapologetically make full use of disabled bays and park as close to the shops as I can, because I am entitiled to for my son and the risks to him, but even if he wasn't autistic I would still be choosing to park in the safest, closest, biggest spaces. Family concerns always trump anything else.
The train is a little more practical, but you still could only use it for days out and not your day to day living as a family. It currently costs me pennies to run my EV though, so there is no reason for me to entertain the idea of paying to go by train either.
--- Quote from: soopahfly on July 17, 2022, 20:30:09 PM ---What speed do EVs stop making that choir of the dead noise?
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I have the fake noise thing disabled on my Leaf. I prefer to swear at idiots not paying attention :lol:
knighty:
I don't understand why they don't make everyone retest every 10 years
it would do more for driving standards/road safety than everything else they're doing put together
matt5cott:
Against, mission creep being a concern not mentioned on the thread so far.
I've seen signs with "new traffic layout for COVID" for christ sake :lol: A blanket limit of 20mph is just taking the piss, they already have advisory ones outside schools etc so the framework is already there for it when it's sensible.
Agree with Knighty that re-testing would do more for road safety, perhaps not even a full test, hell even some basic road competency exercises would help many!
Sign of the times I guess, just a constant war on the motorist ::) Loads of roundabouts around here now have full traffic light systems on them, I don't mind so much if they're temporary lights for when it's busy, but they aren't... :roll:
--- Quote from: knighty on July 18, 2022, 02:16:00 AM ---seams daft to me.... there's a lot of 30 roads which 30+ is perfectly safe
I don't think lowering the limit will make any difference to the mongs who go flying past kids playing out etc.
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The kind of mission creep I'd expect from this 20mph muppetry is even more ridiculous speed humps to justify spending budgets, more egregious policing of the limit because let's face it, on an empty road TONS of people are going to do 25/30 and it's just another way to generate revenue.
Anyway what comes next for the motorist? F'ing caltrops?
neXus:
--- Quote from: knighty on July 18, 2022, 17:22:21 PM ---I don't understand why they don't make everyone retest every 10 years
it would do more for driving standards/road safety than everything else they're doing put together
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Speed of course can kill but as you indicate its more to do with the drivers.
People who pass their test can just get lazy and become bad drivers.
The other big issue is, like here where you got Taxi drivers. People who have migrated to the country who are allowed to just transfer their license over. How they got that god knows but because they need to re-qualify for things like being a doctor or something else that requires that countries certification they may be smart but they CANT drive yet they have jobs driving people.
Taxi's are just the worst here in Sydney.
Bus drivers I think after a period of time just get angry people and think because they are in a bus everyone will just get out of their way.
Old people either just get too old and drive badly or think they are privileged types and everyone should get out their way.
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