Author Topic: Petri dish Burger  (Read 13325 times)

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #30 on: August 09, 2013, 18:42:12 PM
http://www.projectprevention.org/united-kingdom/

I imagine we will see more of this as time goes on.

I'd fully support schemes like that too. prevention is always better than cure.

That's quite a novel scheme there. The testimonials from people she's helped are obviously from the heart.

They're happier for it and there are no more drug addicted children coming into the world from them.

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Last Edit: August 16, 2013, 06:48:01 AM by M3ta7h3ad #187;

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Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #31 on: August 15, 2013, 21:32:51 PM
Was hoping for three pages of burger pics and recipes :(

The way I see it all we need to do now is industrialize the process, build a burger factory in every country, then build factories to make the raw materials for burgers. That way all the 3rd world charities would have to do is supply buns and ketchup.

Scale it down, everyone gets a burger maker and a burger ingredient maker in their kitchen. The bun and ketchup factories will come later.

Seriously, this is a good thing.  Swap the words burgers, buns and ketchup for rice, fruit and meat - bye bye world hunger. We can all chill and breed like bunnies. 

 
I know sh*ts bad right now with all that starving bullsh*t and the dust storms and we are running out of french fries and burrito coverings.

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #32 on: August 16, 2013, 01:54:54 AM


The solution you pose is also trimming from the wrong end. We should stop free healthcare for retired people, remove state pensions and get rid of heating allowances, etc... Our population is top heavy, not bottom heavy and pensioners aren't doing anything useful, they are simply taking up space and resources. Lower the average life expectancy, solve the population issues in one easy go.

/controversial

Yes, extremely controversial, and frankly just moronic. Why should pensioners bear the brunt of it purely because they're old? These people (for the most part, I can't speak for every individual obviously) have contributed more than their fair share and their entitlement to healthcare and support shouldn't be questioned. Let's take for example my grandfather. Since he was a child he has worked to support his family, he then joined the army, served his time, created his own business which he ran for thirty years then worked for another company till this year, coincidentally the year of his 80th birthday. Maybe I should also mention his profession was roofing. This is the same man who despite being 60 years older than me has probably used the NHS less times than I have, and has paid considerably more than most people. Why should he be denied the pension he worked extremely hard for? I doubt you'd be waking up at 3am every day for the vast majority of your life, yet when you reach retirement age you'd be screaming bloody murder if that money was refused.

Next time try and think more logically before posting any more of your ridiculous theories.

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #33 on: August 16, 2013, 06:42:31 AM
Didn't think I'd need to explain its not a case of "entitlement" but rather a case of utility, didn't think I'd need to explain the obvious but hey...

Your grandfather however in his twilight years starts to be a burden on the system instead of an asset. His usefulness to the human race diminishes. Where as a young child grows to become more useful in the majority of cases, sure there are edge cases such as the terminally unemployed but the solution posed of making pensionable age more difficult encourages people to work harder in earlier life to better support themselves without state assistance in later life.

If we say the average life goes as follows: 0-16 is fully system dependent, 16-65 is productive and 65-100 involves escalating dependency on the state, it doesn't take a genius (well might in your case as you clearly didn't get it the first time) to work out that removing the states involvement between 65-100 means the resources spent on a single person is cut. In addition the lowering of the average life expectancy that comes with less support in later life means that we do not have as serious an issue as we do currently with a top heavy population and more old dependent people than productive younger people.

What we need is more young people not fewer, and fewer old people, not more.

Oh and your granddad, stopped being productive at 80. His actual retirement age. He seems like someone who would have been proactive in ensuring he had his later years covered, so wouldn't be as harshly hit by a lack of state support.

Moronic? Lol, resorting to insults because you fail to understand basic logic. You win the Internet. Well done.
Last Edit: August 16, 2013, 06:47:09 AM by M3ta7h3ad #187;

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #34 on: August 16, 2013, 11:26:25 AM
Beanissocoollike, he's trolling you, just ignore him ;)

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #35 on: August 16, 2013, 11:35:21 AM
Beanissocoollike, he's trolling you, just ignore him ;)

I said to Nige last night 'I'm just waiting for the 'he's just trolling' messages to arrive, but still I needed to say something because I was so angry at just how idiotic that post was. I know I should have left it but some people need to be called out when they're being stupid.

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #36 on: August 16, 2013, 14:55:52 PM
Beanissocoollike, he's trolling you, just ignore him ;)

I said to Nige last night 'I'm just waiting for the 'he's just trolling' messages to arrive, but still I needed to say something because I was so angry at just how idiotic that post was. I know I should have left it but some people need to be called out when they're being stupid.

You're being stupid.

What? Well you said you needed to be.

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Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #37 on: August 16, 2013, 14:58:56 PM
Beanissocoollike, he's trolling you, just ignore him ;)

Not a troll, a genuine well thought out and better plan than enforced birth control is. :/

If beansissocoollike has grandaddy issues that's its problem.

I'd rather have a few million extra 20 something's than a few million 80 plus. In terms of utility and sustainability, its the only sensible way.

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Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #38 on: August 16, 2013, 18:15:05 PM
get back under your bridge troll boy

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #39 on: August 17, 2013, 02:25:21 AM
get back under your bridge troll boy

Physician heal thyself.

Unless you have something at least somewhat related to the topic at hand, quit your pointless trolling and get back in your box.

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Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #40 on: August 17, 2013, 10:49:25 AM
you're the troll

check some statistics

for your system to work, we'd have to kill everyone when they get to 54years 3months old, so there's you're idea screwed


better idea
free birth control
tax breaks if you have no kids
extra tax if you have more than 2


you're also forgetting quality of life, there's an optimum number of people for the planet, more than or less than that are quality of life starts to fall, I'm pretty sure we passed that number a while ago

also, you're forgetting this is a long term plan, planning ahead for hundreds of years.... in 100 years the world will be a totally different place... we'll have armies of robots doing stuff for us... in 200 years they'll be doing everything

no matter how many people the Earth can support... there's no reason to try and push it to the limit

and it's not like limiting people to 2 kids is a terrible thing to do... 99% of people won't be bothered


so like I said, get back under your bridge troll boy

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #41 on: August 17, 2013, 13:05:25 PM
Where are your sources for this arbitrary figure?

I too can make up numbers on the spot if I wished. I am also wondering how my way involves the mandatory execution of people, where as yours involves voluntary actions, can you clarify how you came to that reasoning please?

Fact is, people will pay if its only voluntary, so unless abortion, etc is mandatory then your way is ineffective and would at best result in a rapidly ageing population, becoming increasingly dependent on a dwindling number of younger "working age" people.

Your taxes would also make families more dependent on state benefit. They will pay the extra taxes for an extra kid, but they won't be able to afford to feed their family, what if they then become employed? Or those who don't pay taxes for example. Your idea falls flat on its face. There is free family planning already, so that clearly hasn't worked to deter population growth either.

A cut off at the mandatory retirement age of state given support allows the population to plan for the future, will mean we don't lose the "baby factory" bringing in fresh blood and our ageing population dwindles, rather than the less preferable outcome of it growing on into the future.

Beans got confused between entitlement and necessity. I agree with them and as a very well paid 20 something, I will likely have paid and contributed more than my fair share of taxes when I hit 70. Yes I would be pissed if someone turned around and said "yup... Now you have no free healthcare, no bus pass and no concessions", but the reality is that we're not debating whether I'd be pissed off as a granddad, but whether as a retired 86 year old I'm more preferable to have around in a "survival of the human race" context than a 16 year old just entering employment.

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #42 on: August 17, 2013, 13:22:13 PM
Here's an interesting article on China and the solutions that it currently has in place (e.g. What you are proposing as a solution here) with their effect on the country.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2012-07/10/content_15563350.htm

As I said, enforced birth control = population ageing. Which is a very bad thing.
Last Edit: August 17, 2013, 13:24:04 PM by M3ta7h3ad #187;

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #43 on: August 17, 2013, 13:29:20 PM

and it's not like limiting people to 2 kids is a terrible thing to do... 99% of people won't be bothered


so like I said, get back under your bridge troll boy

So your idea by your own admission is 99% ineffective. Well done there... You're clearly another winner of the Internet.

Re: Petri dish Burger
Reply #44 on: August 17, 2013, 14:57:35 PM
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