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Reply #90 on: February 11, 2008, 21:35:02 PM
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erm....  The engine should be able to work out that the title tag hasnt been closed as the head flag has been closed.  Thats the proper way to handle it as title is a child flag of head...  It should render it fine and then tell you via a warning that theres a mistake.

CBA to run it but thats what should be happening in both browsers.  Im guessing Firefox does it properly and IE doesnt.  IE has significantly more dodgy coding errors especially when it comes to padding and borders.


IE shows nothing, hence indicating "there be something wrong here" firefox doesnt show any errors, merely renders the page, I consider the latter way of dealing with it as incorrect.

Great for the viewer, but if youre a developer not so great as it will let you do such simple retarded errors as the above (highly likely when doing a website in the early hours :D) :)


Retards would not do such an error and if you are a developer you use your coding software and webtools when your creating and such silly errors will be shown in your software before you even go to render the page and if you got your developer plugin it will show it as well
If it renders it renders and joe blogs does not need to see the errors if the site is live and nothing more then an annoyance to them if it does
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Reply #91 on: February 11, 2008, 22:18:20 PM
yeah and those of us who use notepad variants and one browser during development (using the other browsers once a site has been developed to test :)) are so going to see the error before rendering the page.

When I am thinking about how to parse text data into XML and to then parse it into a database for archiving, or rather some other process... thinking about "title" tags isnt automatically top of my agenda. I tend to code, if I f**k up.. itll show up on the site when I view it.

IE would show the error... Firefox would not. (plugins schmuggins... you mean you actually have to patch firefox with a 3rd party plugin to get it to work as a browser should) Its invalid code... it shouldnt display it. An interpreter doesnt auto correct it goes "oi thar be an exception ere... fix it" yay... html being an interpreted language should be no different.
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Reply #92 on: February 11, 2008, 22:25:58 PM
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yeah and those of us who use notepad variants and one browser during development (using the other browsers once a site has been developed to test :)) are so going to see the error before rendering the page.

Sorry to say but if your doing anything decent web wise and make that sort of simple error and not run a xhtml validation to check your code - noob

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When I am thinking about how to parse text data into XML and to then parse it into a database for archiving, or rather some other process... thinking about "title" tags isnt automatically top of my agenda. I tend to code, if I f**k up.. itll show up on the site when I view it.

Should not even have to think about the basics if your doing that, I can do the basic html stuff not looking at the screen talking to someone, did that before I came to NZ, created a basic xhtml page for someone chatting to a friend for a good 5-10 minutes, only glanced at the screen a few times. Not super sh*t hot at it either

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IE would show the error... Firefox would not. (plugins schmuggins... you mean you actually have to patch firefox with a 3rd party plugin to get it to work as a browser should) Its invalid code... it shouldnt display it. An interpreter doesnt auto correct it goes "oi thar be an exception ere... fix it" yay... html being an interpreted language should be no different.


No, People use plugins to take the browser further and extend its functionality to allow you to do more stuff you want to do and as an option and better then not having that choice at all
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Reply #93 on: February 11, 2008, 22:53:53 PM
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yeah and those of us who use notepad variants and one browser during development (using the other browsers once a site has been developed to test :)) are so going to see the error before rendering the page.

Sorry to say but if your doing anything decent web wise and make that sort of simple error and not run a xhtml validation to check your code - noob


Because yes... all the cool kids check validation whilst a site is in development... of course.

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When I am thinking about how to parse text data into XML and to then parse it into a database for archiving, or rather some other process... thinking about "title" tags isnt automatically top of my agenda. I tend to code, if I f**k up.. itll show up on the site when I view it.

Should not even have to think about the basics if your doing that, I can do the basic html stuff not looking at the screen talking to someone, did that before I came to NZ, created a basic xhtml page for someone chatting to a friend for a good 5-10 minutes, only glanced at the screen a few times. Not super sh*t hot at it either
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Because yes... every time I make a html website I make an error like this of course. Just because I have highlighted one example of the numerous that firefox deals with incorrectly does not directly reflect on my ability whatsoever.

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IE would show the error... Firefox would not. (plugins schmuggins... you mean you actually have to patch firefox with a 3rd party plugin to get it to work as a browser should) Its invalid code... it shouldnt display it. An interpreter doesnt auto correct it goes "oi thar be an exception ere... fix it" yay... html being an interpreted language should be no different.


No, People use plugins to take the browser further and extend its functionality to allow you to do more stuff you want to do and as an option and better then not having that choice at all


Id much rather have the functionality built in, as opposed to an afterthought. Additional functions sure.... but then thats what IE has had since at least 6... possibly even 5, plug-ins arent a new idea.
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Reply #94 on: February 11, 2008, 23:12:31 PM
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Because yes... all the cool kids check validation whilst a site is in development... of course.

Err yes if it is large or if your even semi good you do not need to, silly errors is very noobish
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Because yes... every time I make a html website I make an error like this of course. Just because I have highlighted one example of the numerous that firefox deals with incorrectly does not directly reflect on my ability whatsoever.

SO your kicking up a fuss about nothing on these forums again? Shock horror...
Small pointless thing that is meaningless if you do things properly or use the things you do if your making websites - lol

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Id much rather have the functionality built in, as opposed to an afterthought. Additional functions sure.... but then thats what IE has had since at least 6... possibly even 5, plug-ins arent a new idea

Making it bloated for the people who do not need such things, that is clever  :rofl:
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Reply #95 on: February 12, 2008, 11:38:57 AM
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Because yes... all the cool kids check validation whilst a site is in development... of course.

Err yes if it is large or if your even semi good you do not need to, silly errors is very noobish
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Because yes... every time I make a html website I make an error like this of course. Just because I have highlighted one example of the numerous that firefox deals with incorrectly does not directly reflect on my ability whatsoever.

SO your kicking up a fuss about nothing on these forums again? Shock horror...
Small pointless thing that is meaningless if you do things properly or use the things you do if your making websites - lol

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Id much rather have the functionality built in, as opposed to an afterthought. Additional functions sure.... but then thats what IE has had since at least 6... possibly even 5, plug-ins arent a new idea

Making it bloated for the people who do not need such things, that is clever  :rofl:


Id hardly consider adding useful functionality to a program as bloat. Certainly beats going around adding your own "bloat" afterwards as youve called it.

Big deal out of nothing? Im not the one throwing toys out of the pram here, I just said that safari is the crappest browser known to mankind and firefox is not the shiny golden turd that youre led to believe, but is in fact rather smelly and just as brown as the rest. IE while not shiny and golden by any stretch of the imagination, at least works in a manner that I find preferable than relying on being to realise a single word of text is missing in a page that could include several hundred lines of code.

Mate if youve 1337 skills, one has to wonder why on earth someone like that had to resort to contacting non-employers/internet friends for references. Think Ill leave it at that really, im comfortable in my knowledge (more than in fact... having done a few commercial sites, several back end scripts and even intranet/sharepoint development prior to joining my current development role) but I certainly wont crush a helping hand if I get offered one.
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Reply #96 on: February 12, 2008, 11:52:49 AM
I think it best we leave this here, as its taken the thread wildly off tangent and clearly we all will just have to agree to disagree.
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