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TheMallrat · **Reply #30 on:** August 10, 2011, 19:18:26 PM

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Reply #30 on: August 10, 2011, 19:18:26 PM

Also, a friend of my brother posted on facebook that one of their friends had sent them a pic of them looting. My brothers friend was quick to phone the police, lol.

zpyder · **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2011, 21:39:13 PM

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Reply #31 on: August 10, 2011, 21:39:13 PM

I hope that happens with all the c**ts involved

Cypher · **Reply #32 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:40:24 AM

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Reply #32 on: August 11, 2011, 11:40:24 AM

Quote from: Clock'd 0Ne on August 09, 2011, 15:45:12 PM

Quote from: zpyder on August 09, 2011, 15:19:12 PM
Just to make me sound incredibly naive...but what are the riots actually about? ATM it just seems like people rioting/looting for the sake of it...usually this stuff happens off of the side of a protest/riot?

I just posted this Facebook so might as well expand here:

These aren't poor people, these are mindless thugs chancing on the lack of response so far to go out and steal in the name of 'sticking it to man' as they've watched things escalate, or as one of these chavs said "the Conservatives or whoever, I dunno". They don't even believe what they are saying, they are talking plain sh*te and are just scum taking the opportunity to thieve. It has nothing to do with a black man being shot, poverty or how white and middle class Cameron is. Any apologist for any of this is a fool, plain and simple. People fighting oppression and poverty do not firebomb small local businesses and firebomb their neighbours out of house and home and call it "fighting against the rich and the police". There's been people rolling up in BMW X5s in organised groups to rob high end electronics FFS, people chatting over radios organising where to go and loot next, etc. Children as young as 8 even.

I was watching the news on the second night, sky news were interviewing a young lady who was carrying away good, they asked her if she was proud and how they justify what they are doing. Her well thought out reply "We pay tax innit, I'm getting my money back"

Anyone who takes 5 minutes to look at their behaviour knows their is no motivation to the riots political, moral etc, it's taking a life of a shot man, riding the back of it and trying to associate themselves with it. These people will have been looking for any excuse for months/years. It's plague that spreads once it starts. The only way it stops with stern action to demotivate these kids who suddenly grow a pair of balls when then there are plain numbers of them.

At least with the Student protests/riots it was mostly directed at Government Buildings. There was a political motivation, These people are nothing but the low life of what society has to offer. There is no justification, and as Nige quite rightly says anyone who tries to defend is just as bad a fool.

Cypher · **Reply #33 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:42:21 AM

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Reply #33 on: August 11, 2011, 11:42:21 AM

Quote from: DEViANCE on August 09, 2011, 20:20:10 PM

I've just been watching the US coverage of this, it is so embarrassing we are looking like complete idiots to the entire world. China and Iran have criticised the way this has been handled. WTF.

They would have shot them on site...........in style.

Cypher · **Reply #34 on:** August 11, 2011, 11:43:56 AM

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Reply #34 on: August 11, 2011, 11:43:56 AM

Quote from: neXus on August 09, 2011, 20:41:31 PM

I knew I was paying for HD for a reason.

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knighty · **Reply #35 on:** August 11, 2011, 13:24:42 PM

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Reply #35 on: August 11, 2011, 13:24:42 PM

makes me ashamed to be english tbh.... for the first time ever... and hopefully the last :s

XEntity · **Reply #36 on:** August 11, 2011, 13:44:28 PM

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Reply #36 on: August 11, 2011, 13:44:28 PM

Quote from: knighty on August 11, 2011, 13:24:42 PM

makes me ashamed to be english tbh.... for the first time ever... and hopefully the last :s

Unfortunately this might have set the precedent, next time there is any form of protest I can see it escalating again, or people setting up protests to cause riots..

XEntity · **Reply #37 on:** August 11, 2011, 14:01:56 PM

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Reply #37 on: August 11, 2011, 14:01:56 PM

Quote from: neXus on August 09, 2011, 20:41:31 PM

Also who is the man on the right of this picture? He doesn't look like your average rioter, but doesn't seem phased about what's going on?

Bacon · **Reply #38 on:** August 11, 2011, 15:11:47 PM

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Reply #38 on: August 11, 2011, 15:11:47 PM

Quote from: XEntity on August 11, 2011, 14:01:56 PM

Quote from: neXus on August 09, 2011, 20:41:31 PM

Also who is the man on the right of this picture? He doesn't look like your average rioter, but doesn't seem phased about what's going on?

skidzilla · **Reply #39 on:** August 11, 2011, 15:28:01 PM

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Reply #39 on: August 11, 2011, 15:28:01 PM

Hipster dude just wants to watch the whole world burn....

Hipster's Diary: Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face. The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

bear · **Reply #40 on:** August 11, 2011, 17:41:47 PM

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Reply #40 on: August 11, 2011, 17:41:47 PM

I few quotes I've seen on the matter.

Quote from:

Now we meet England's new 'Robbin Hoods'

Quote from:

"These are the children of the great goddess Nike, their mantra 'Just do it'. If you dangle raw meat before a cage of ravenous wolves for 30 years you had better check once in a while that the cage is not rusting away. When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping.

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Dave · **Reply #41 on:** August 11, 2011, 22:35:50 PM

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Reply #41 on: August 11, 2011, 22:35:50 PM

I saw two kids walking through my development carrying an LCD TV about 8pm Monday night - they didn't have their faces covered and were likely caught on CCTV. Filled out an online form on the Met's website and got a phone call back yesterday to say thank you and that they're going to follow up the footage. Am hoping that they are well know to the police and its just a case of getting their door kicked down in an early morning raid...

As for the causes whilst the divide between rich and poor does factor into this slightly it isn't an excuse and frankly doesn't require changing - the problem is the belief amongst some people that their entitled to something, that someone else owes them a living, that if things aren't going right for them then someone else is to blame, that is other people are rich then they are somehow owed a slice of the pie too. People are blaming this on cuts when in reality its certain groups 'communities' that are the problem and the negative influence adults within those communities are having on their kids.

These riots weren't started by the police shooting an armed gangster the riots were started by a bunch of so called 'community leaders' marching a mob of about 100 or so idiots up to a police station to call for 'justice' and to demand answers which the police weren't able to give them... at 5:30pm... on a Saturday evening...

Listening to one of the organisers on the news is quite illuminating - apparently they demanded answers and a Chief Inspector was sent out, they decided (self entitlement kicking in) that that wasn't good enough for them and they wouldn't go until a Superintendent was called to some an speak to them...

I don't think the police should have to pander to the sympathies of the family of an armed gangster who was shot by them. Chances are the scumbag pulled his gun out and threatened the police with it which is why he's been shot. The constant reiterating of apologies to the 'Duggan Family' are a complete joke tbh.. this was a low life scumbag with a gun who, it is believed, was on his way to use that gun to kill someone - thus the pre-planned operation to catch him.

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Bacon · **Reply #42 on:** August 11, 2011, 23:45:15 PM

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Reply #42 on: August 11, 2011, 23:45:15 PM

Quote from: Dave on August 11, 2011, 22:35:50 PM

As for the causes whilst the divide between rich and poor does factor into this slightly it isn't an excuse and frankly doesn't require changing - the problem is the belief amongst some people that their entitled to something, that someone else owes them a living, that if things aren't going right for them then someone else is to blame, that is other people are rich then they are somehow owed a slice of the pie too. People are blaming this on cuts when in reality its certain groups 'communities' that are the problem and the negative influence adults within those communities are having on their kids.

I don't think it was a divide, not when you see a 47 year old Graphic Designer involved, a woman who has an honours degree who's father is a multi millionaire, and countless people of all ages walking around in better clothes than i can afford (ahem how many North Face jackets).

The simple fact is this was premiditated by someone or a group of people that saw it as an opportunity, i think once the initial (gang/s i assume started it) everyone else just jumped on the bandwagon for easy pickings.

The fact that half of them didn't cover their faces just proves that half of them were just opportunistic, i would guess the ones that covered their faces are the seasoned looters.

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Dave · **Reply #43 on:** August 11, 2011, 23:52:14 PM

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Reply #43 on: August 11, 2011, 23:52:14 PM

Incidentally the police shootings are rare in the UK. In the last 3 years the police have shot 8 people (inc this recent shooting) the other 7 have all been white people.

Still that didn't stop certain community leaders with a mindset stuck in the 80s instantly assuming that this particular shooting was a race thing and that gathering up a large group to demand answers/start a protest on a Saturday evening was a good idea. The fact that they felt so entitled to be able to do that in the expectation that the police would jump through hoops for them and that they could make such outlandish demands just illustrates their warped mindset.

Some of the characters appearing on TV defending and/or making excuses for the rioters seem to think they're either living in the 1980s or that they're part of the US civil rights movement when in reality there isn't anything political behind this. We seem to have come full swing in that now we've got a situation where the police are having to say sorry and express their condolences to the family of an armed thug because the community he lives in is ultra sensitive and to not do so would lead to them being branded racist.

Dave · **Reply #44 on:** August 12, 2011, 00:06:47 AM

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Reply #44 on: August 12, 2011, 00:06:47 AM

Quote from: Bacon on August 11, 2011, 23:45:15 PM

I don't think it was a divide, not when you see a 47 year old Graphic Designer involved, a woman who has an honours degree who's father is a multi millionaire, and countless people of all ages walking around in better clothes than i can afford (ahem how many North Face jackets).

The simple fact is this was premiditated by someone or a group of people that saw it as an opportunity, i think once the initial (gang/s i assume started it) everyone else just jumped on the bandwagon for easy pickings.

The fact that half of them didn't cover their faces just proves that half of them were just opportunistic, i would guess the ones that covered their faces are the seasoned looters.

Well like I said it factors into it slightly - it was kicked off by youths from a poor area thanks to some idiotic 'community leaders' bleeting at the police and turning the shooting of an armed thug into a race issue.

Certainly by the time it got round to Sunday and Monday night and people were seeing that the local retail park was being looted and no police were about for hours then a fair few low life opportunistic idiots got involved.* Though I'd expect that these muppets who drove up and loaded up their cars have likely had their number plates noted from CCTV and their front doors smashed to bits in early morning raids by police this morning (about 100 raids took place this morning across London).

Having said that some of those examples have resulted from cherry picking by the press - several hundred have been charged and they're largely young and plenty with previous convictions according to a few reports.

Essentially just about any low life chav/gangster wannabe who'd have been hanging around on the streets in London anyway would have, in the past few days, likely just seen this as an opportunity to go wild, smash stuff up and go and steal things.

*(also amusingly some muppet has been referred to the crown court today for stealing cup cakes from a bakery btw... - the reason for referring someone is if the magistrate believes the offence warrants a sentence larger than they are able to dish out (up to 12 months in prison or a fine of a few grand) so rather comically the cup cake thief could end up having the book thrown at them).

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