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Title: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 09, 2020, 00:47:12 AM
This Coronavirus crazy is driving me nuts.
On weekend, I have kids and need nappies, wipes, tissue....


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And some online thing saying Avocado's help avoid getting the virus and this:


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Only smart people here so you all know how idiotic much of the world is right now..


109,936 Current cases roughly
Deaths of 3,806
People recovered Recovered: 60,979


All deaths are from people already of ill health and elderly.


Lets take a look at the old Influenza - The flu:
This is the flu season from about October to now.


Cases: 34,000,000 – 49,000,000
Deaths: 20,000 – 52,000


The FLU is WAY worse., Yes this new virus may spread quicker and there is no vaccination but come on people :(


I am really pissed off with the media right now. Us Humans and idiots are doing the damage on social media but the real Media seem to think this is a do or die for them. For years loosing out to Social Media where people often get their latest news from their twitter feed than actual newspaper or website. The actual media has gone so hard with this virus outbreak, even the BBC has gone nuts on this. They seem to think that it is a war with social media and they have to win.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Binary Shadow on March 09, 2020, 06:33:55 AM
Yep pretty ridiculous, popped to shop yesterday and panic buying had cleared some shelves, theres just no need! Problem is now theres none for those that actually need the stuff.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 09, 2020, 07:37:02 AM
Thankfully, we had been stocking up on basics for months anyway (from Amazon S&S deals usually) so I'm not too worried. Also if you're that bloody concerned why are you braving going down to the shops anyway instead of ordering online for home delivery? :lol:
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: matt5cott on March 09, 2020, 08:12:08 AM
The FLU is WAY worse., Yes this new virus may spread quicker and there is no vaccination but come on people :(


I am really pissed off with the media right now. Us Humans and idiots are doing the damage on social media but the real Media seem to think this is a do or die for them. For years loosing out to Social Media where people often get their latest news from their twitter feed than actual newspaper or website. The actual media has gone so hard with this virus outbreak, even the BBC has gone nuts on this. They seem to think that it is a war with social media and they have to win.

Half the problem is there's an increasing rise in complete and utter distrust of any form of power now (rightly so) Italy locking down millions of people, Japan shutting all schools quite a while back now, US state dept officially saying a cruise isn't a good idea :lol: yet UK has nothing, infact people are pointing out on twitter last night passengers off flights from Italy were completely unchallenged on entering the UK, no checks, nothing, then you've got the NHS promoting they're "well prepared" on twitter, they're not even prepared for winter :roll:

I see a lot of the "Relax it's fine" Mantra from talking heads is coming from those with vested interests, generally with holdings in the stock market. Too early to say if it's worse or not than the flu, but if I had to bet I'd go all in on much worse than the flu, the USA haven't even been testing properly, has anywhere? :dunno:

I guess a lot depends on what you read, I read Zerohedge often, which is paranoia central https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-boasts-we-have-perfectly-coordinated-plan-stop-virus-16-million-italians-wake  :lol: :lol: :tinhat: :tinhat:

I agree with you 100% on the legacy media going absolutely all out, they know they're fighting the tide coming in.

Yep pretty ridiculous, popped to shop yesterday and panic buying had cleared some shelves, theres just no need! Problem is now theres none for those that actually need the stuff.

So paradoxically there is a need :lol: Mad times :lol:
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: knighty on March 09, 2020, 09:23:20 AM
a mate of mine has half a shipping container full of hand sanitizer... he normally gives it away free with stuff he sells online.... he's started selling it for £10 a bottle now

it's mental... I don't agree with profiteering... but at the same time I wish I was the one with the stock!
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: soopahfly on March 09, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
I'm not too bothered about running out of bog-roll, there are plenty of alternatives.
Even hand sanitiser isn't a worry if you're desperate.  The WHO has a guide on their website about how to make some
https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf

Granted, it's going to be several gallons of the stuff but still....

Or even this
https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/

Tea tree oil, aloe vera, isopropyl alcohol and water.  Done.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 09, 2020, 14:01:48 PM
I work from home now, but just had word that because a visitor with Coronavirus went to the first floor of the building where our office is in London, they've had to close the entire building for two weeks. Glad I'm working remote tbh.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 09, 2020, 19:27:31 PM
Huge amount of paranoia going around fed by the press and governments.

The death toll has been low between 10 yrs and 60 yrs under 0.4%, above that it rises with the highest chance of dying above 80 and with underlying other medical conditions.

Then one Tory suggested it might help deal with elderly people stuck in hospital beds.

Overall it's not an end of humanity issue.

Funniest bit was a medical woman advising don't touch your face and then promptly licking her finger to turn the page on her notes. EPIC FAIL!
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 09, 2020, 23:38:37 PM
I'm not too bothered about running out of bog-roll, there are plenty of alternatives.
Even hand sanitiser isn't a worry if you're desperate.  The WHO has a guide on their website about how to make some
https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf (https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf)

Granted, it's going to be several gallons of the stuff but still....

Or even this
https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/ (https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/)

Tea tree oil, aloe vera, isopropyl alcohol and water.  Done.


I got new avatars for you.. :)


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Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Binary Shadow on March 10, 2020, 06:18:44 AM
Also if you're that bloody concerned why are you braving going down to the shops anyway instead of ordering online for home delivery? :lol:
we usually order online.. panic on there meant no delivery slots this week!
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: soopahfly on March 10, 2020, 10:44:56 AM
I'm not too bothered about running out of bog-roll, there are plenty of alternatives.
Even hand sanitiser isn't a worry if you're desperate.  The WHO has a guide on their website about how to make some
https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf (https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf)

Granted, it's going to be several gallons of the stuff but still....

Or even this
https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/ (https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/)

Tea tree oil, aloe vera, isopropyl alcohol and water.  Done.


I got new avatars for you.. :)


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I've not got to that point yet!!
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 11, 2020, 02:07:00 AM
I'm not too bothered about running out of bog-roll, there are plenty of alternatives.
Even hand sanitiser isn't a worry if you're desperate.  The WHO has a guide on their website about how to make some
https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf (https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf)

Granted, it's going to be several gallons of the stuff but still....

Or even this
https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/ (https://www.popsci.com/story/diy/diy-hand-sanitizer/)

Tea tree oil, aloe vera, isopropyl alcohol and water.  Done.


I got new avatars for you.. :)


(https://i.imgur.com/4WkXWL7.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/iyYSN7D.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/xmYYTAs.png)

I've not got to that point yet!!


He has, new Picard on Amazon Prime - Will Riker made his appearance. This is how Riker looks now.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 11, 2020, 17:32:47 PM

I've not got to that point yet!!


He has, new Picard on Amazon Prime - Will Riker made his appearance. This is how Riker looks now.

Soopah isn't 65 yet... Whatcha mean he's over 80?  :muttley: :muttley: :muttley:
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: soopahfly on March 11, 2020, 21:15:28 PM
I meant I'm only just on episode 6 😂
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 12, 2020, 00:40:55 AM
I meant I'm only just on episode 6 😂
OH, HAHAHA.
Well no spoilers there as everyone knew he was in it :)

Enjoying it so far?


Back on topic....


Lock down and work from home talk or already in place globally, people buying medicines at Chemist and that selling out... Basically even if your not a complete idiot people are stock piling because of the posibility that you have to work from home, schools may close or you are not allowed out - Italy is the extreme but San Fransisco for example is basically on work from home lockdown already.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: DEViANCE on March 12, 2020, 19:01:28 PM
I think its crazy the world is literally switching off, shutting down and doing all sorts of damage that will take generations to recover from just because there is a nasty cold going around.

By all means but the most vulnerable in society in a bubble somewhere until the vaccine is approved but come on! let the rest of us get on with life! AND STOP CANCELLING MY SPORTS EVENTS! :P
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 13, 2020, 04:47:09 AM
I think its crazy the world is literally switching off, shutting down and doing all sorts of damage that will take generations to recover from just because there is a nasty cold going around.

By all means but the most vulnerable in society in a bubble somewhere until the vaccine is approved but come on! let the rest of us get on with life! AND STOP CANCELLING MY SPORTS EVENTS! :p


I get that there needs to be some containment going on but a well known US doctor was on a show yesterday basically saying that as soon as you have a drop and remove the lockdowns it will just pick back up. Like he said - It is the flu and falls under the same as that. It has a longer period showing signs 14-25 days then the normal flue and it is in the air like the flu but it is just the same. Until you have a vaccine out there available then you just do as you do with the flu.
He was super pissed with the Media.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: knighty on March 13, 2020, 10:55:54 AM
shutting down and doing all sorts of damage that will take generations to recover from

what damage is being done?
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 13, 2020, 18:26:34 PM
I think its crazy the world is literally switching off, shutting down and doing all sorts of damage that will take generations to recover from just because there is a nasty cold going around.

By all means but the most vulnerable in society in a bubble somewhere until the vaccine is approved but come on! let the rest of us get on with life! AND STOP CANCELLING MY SPORTS EVENTS! :P

The coronavirus is not a flu virus, it kills about 40 times as many people who get infected. Which is fine if you don't have any elderly relatives or those with compromised immune systems. A vaccine could take a year or more to reach full production so not next Friday in time for the match.

Actually I don't care about sports events being cancelled, would much prefer watching Boris doing a 10Km swim chased by a horde of hungry sharks. Of course you can always watch old ones repeated on TV, then you can know who is going to win and only watch the ones where the side you support does.

It limits the transmission of the disease, or perhaps you think that a sporting event is worth more than people's lives?
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: DEViANCE on March 14, 2020, 07:10:20 AM
shutting down and doing all sorts of damage that will take generations to recover from

what damage is being done?

The world economy will go into recession, house prices will fall, companies will go bust, people will lose their jobs, savings and pensions, that's all.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Bacon on March 19, 2020, 15:06:06 PM
Thought i would check in, i was made redundant yesterday, i have until the end of april but i cannot work from home.

I am also diabetic, i believe my health is in good order, but i am worried a bit, both my brothers are sick with various issues and im alone most of the time as my parents and other close family are gone.

I will have to work until my contract ends, so lets hope youre all wrong and this doesnt escalate as i have enough problems now with rent / high car insurance and other bills.

Just got my feet back on the ground too  ::) :panic: :)
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 19, 2020, 17:36:41 PM
Really sorry to hear that. All the supermarkets are hiring now for picking, packing, driving, delivering etc because of the demand, you should see if its viable for you mate. Take care of yourself and stay safe.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 19, 2020, 21:29:58 PM
Don't expect this to get better any time soon. If anything it is going to get worse for the next few months.

Government was caught trying to ignore the issue, and we might just pay a hefty cost for them trying to pretend that herd immunity is a good option. NHS is already very badly stretched and this on top could well break it.

I am on self imposed home quarantine, not because I have it, but because I might catch it.

Seems to be plenty of fake advice not to take ibuprofen if you think you are infected, and a little real circumstantial evidence, still better to take paracetamol if you need to take either and have no issues with that.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 20, 2020, 08:08:43 AM
Actual NHS advice is to continue to take Ibuprofen if you already are for an underlying condition/as recommended by GP, otherwise try paracetamol first and use Ibuprofen as a last resort - only because as an anti-inflammatory it could, maybe, potentially complicate the effects of coronavirus - there is no hard evidence either way though so just be cautious.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 20, 2020, 08:11:45 AM
Everyone stay in touch and let us know how you are, stay fit :ptu:

My personal advice is, if you're struggling to get essentials try a local farm shop as many are offering delivery or safe collection now; you'll pay a bit more but get quality goods and support your local producer (who could struggle at a time like this) and you won't get shafted by the moronic supermarkets who did too little too late, are cancelling orders, not managing stock, not delivering essentials, etc.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: DEViANCE on March 20, 2020, 18:12:27 PM
Big news tonight, the government is basically going to pay everyone 80% of their wage for the foreseeable if you need it.

God know how we're going to pay for this but fair play to the government for standing by the people.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: knighty on March 21, 2020, 10:08:09 AM
Thought i would check in, i was made redundant yesterday, i have until the end of april but i cannot work from home.

I am also diabetic, i believe my health is in good order, but i am worried a bit, both my brothers are sick with various issues and im alone most of the time as my parents and other close family are gone.

I will have to work until my contract ends, so lets hope youre all wrong and this doesnt escalate as i have enough problems now with rent / high car insurance and other bills.

Just got my feet back on the ground too  ::) :panic: :)

that's sh*t :-(

because of crono or seperate company stuff?
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: knighty on March 21, 2020, 10:12:32 AM
Big news tonight, the government is basically going to pay everyone 80% of their wage for the foreseeable if you need it.

God know how we're going to pay for this but fair play to the government for standing by the people.

from what I've read, if your company can say you would be working but can't because or crona, they can claim 80% of your pay back from government

but that's useless for all the people who have been laid off - which I've heard is happening to a lot of people

nissan factory in Sunderland has shut down, and so have most of their local suppliers - partly because of crona here, but also because they're running out of parts (whcih come from china)

staff there aren't happy... they're on full pay... but it's treat as a loan so when they go back to work they have to pay it back :-o
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 21, 2020, 18:53:48 PM

nissan factory in Sunderland has shut down, and so have most of their local suppliers - partly because of crona here, but also because they're running out of parts (whcih come from china)

staff there aren't happy... they're on full pay... but it's treat as a loan so when they go back to work they have to pay it back :-o

That is not at all nice. Mind if Nissan virtually close it down completely forever then the employees probably won't have to pay it back.

Won't have a job either. It is bad enough for the EU countries, it could be worse for us.

I have the added problem of living with my brother, who works at the main hospital here. That could be a real issue if he catches something as I always have flu like symptoms and cannot tell if I get an infection until it is really bad.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: DEViANCE on March 21, 2020, 19:21:06 PM
Big news tonight, the government is basically going to pay everyone 80% of their wage for the foreseeable if you need it.

God know how we're going to pay for this but fair play to the government for standing by the people.

from what I've read, if your company can say you would be working but can't because or crona, they can claim 80% of your pay back from government

but that's useless for all the people who have been laid off - which I've heard is happening to a lot of people

nissan factory in Sunderland has shut down, and so have most of their local suppliers - partly because of crona here, but also because they're running out of parts (whcih come from china)

staff there aren't happy... they're on full pay... but it's treat as a loan so when they go back to work they have to pay it back :-o

No it's for laid off people aswell.

I work for a company that refurbishes pubs and understandably the pub company aren't giving us any more work for the time being.
I'll be laid off after the end of next week, but my boss as assured me that I'll be getting the govt 80% wages until we come back in.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 23, 2020, 17:46:13 PM
Copied from BBC "Coronavirus pandemic 'accelerating': WHO chief

The head of the World Health Organization (WHO) says the coronavirus pandemic is "accelerating".

Speaking at a press briefing in Geneva, WHO Director General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said: “It took 67 days from the first reported case to reach 100,000 cases, 11 days for the second 100,000 cases, and just four days for the third 100,000 cases.”

He said he would address G20 heads of state and government this week to ask them to work together to boost production of protective gear."

Seems the UK government are finally planning lockdown on people.

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-emergency-laws-uk-heads-towards-lockdown-035700546.html

Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Eagle on March 24, 2020, 01:16:36 AM
...aaaaand we're in lockdown. 

Dumbasses who couldn't help themselves congregating at tourist spots over the weekend forced Gov's arm.

Stay frosty.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 24, 2020, 07:50:27 AM
I hate Piers Morgan, but he was right. People are c**ts.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/piers-morgan-good-morning-britain-rant-coronavirus-people-outside-a4394466.html (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/piers-morgan-good-morning-britain-rant-coronavirus-people-outside-a4394466.html)
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: matt5cott on March 24, 2020, 13:57:53 PM
Don't rule out full on helicopter money coming here, then don't be surprised at all the talking heads balking about "how's this going to be paid for" The same talking heads who are fine with bailing out banks repeatedly, multiple rounds of QE, complete rape of savers to prop zombie business/banks with ridiculous "interest rates" Often zero percent and even negative in some jurisdictions, oh and just general "haha money printer go brrrr" Shenanigans  :roll:
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: knighty on March 25, 2020, 00:23:57 AM
I'm crazy busy at work, everyone buying dog food while they can

going to build a barricade across the gate tomorrow so customers have to wait outside to be served

I think we were safe before with customer standing in the yard in the fresh air... but apparently trading standards are going around with police backup bollocking shops etc.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Eagle on March 25, 2020, 00:52:08 AM
How come 'home / hardware shops' can stay open - yet we're not allowed to shop in them?  :dunno:
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 25, 2020, 04:07:21 AM
If you folks think UK was confusing (and now in your full lockdown) Australia is just a mess.


They have been running this strange staggered shut down WHICH IS NOT WORKING.


Firstly the globally adopted "Self distancing" is a complete disaster. In every country the governments have it meaning differently and it is a new term so for many people, especially less educated it just a bit stupid to introduce a new term at times like this.
So in Australia it was 1.5 mete's and now it is 2metres with some very confusing amount of people in square meter setup.


Advise up to last week was to work from home as much as possible with social distancing and not much else really. Then the first screw up where they let people off a ferry that had quite a few people infected and that caused a massive spike in cases. Then Friday when it was like 36 degrees Bondi Beach was PACKED with people. It was crazy and that sparked anger and further stages of lock down.



From Sunday cafe's, gyms and things which were still open got closed mid day Monday, but cases are still getting worse so they "Announced more measures" which are bizzare....


- First up, food courts were still operating, some loop hole so now they can only do take away too
[/size]- Funerals being limited to 10 people and weddings to five people in all states and territories.
- Businesses, including beauty, tanning and nail salons, galleries and museums, will be forced to close from midnight on Wednesday.

- BUT hairdressers can stay open as long as appointments are 30 minutes or less and social distancing measures are in place
- Advise to stay at home but if you need to go to work you can do


Food delivery services are allowed to operate


Not working through so we will be on a full lock down at some point.


New Zealand where my family is though is in a FULL Lockdown, and literally is..


- Stay at home
- No travel, roads will be closed and enforced by the police
- Can go supermarkets only
- Certain trade allowed to operate
- No delivery services for food allow to run
And a host of other restrictions - FOR 4 WEEKS!
- Roads closed
- Eveyt
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 25, 2020, 04:08:29 AM
In Trump world...


Seen all the money he is loosing and his figures going down so its "Just the flu" again all of a sudden and he wants people going back to work and just take a combo of drugs and you will be fine.


Not the person you want running your country in a time like now, he is a complete nutter.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 25, 2020, 06:40:54 AM
Trump has also tried to secure his own vaccine deals so his cronies the only ones alllowed to supply the vaccine and ignored WHO offers of aid so he can peddle his medical supplies from family run enterprises. Absolute sub-human scum. I hope he dies of pneumonia.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 25, 2020, 06:43:06 AM
If you folks think UK was confusing (and now in your full lockdown) Australia is just a mess.

It's the same everywhere, because in essence regardless of place of birth, race or religion, everyone are self-serving idiots.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 25, 2020, 18:08:05 PM
How come 'home / hardware shops' can stay open - yet we're not allowed to shop in them?  :dunno:

My present understanding of the law is that people are allowed to collect at food places. Knighty's technically counts as that as they sell dog food but people collecting at the door is safer than letting them in.

People can still mail order stuff. Shops that sell clothes and other non essential items are legally closed.

The bigger issue is people gathering in crowds, There are videos of Italian mayors and police shouting at just a couple of people standing in the street. Needs to be police moving them on here too.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 25, 2020, 18:10:15 PM
If you folks think UK was confusing (and now in your full lockdown) Australia is just a mess.

It's the same everywhere, because in essence regardless of place of birth, race or religion, everyone are self-serving idiots.

I resent that, *NEARLY EVERYONE*.

Last time I was out was Friday collecting medication from chemist.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: neXus on March 26, 2020, 00:52:42 AM
I seen:


- People posting pics on instagram in local area having breakfast from places that should only be serving take away.
- Social media influences's still trying to promote the stuff they need to promote, going to beaches and outside etc (Especially in the states) doing photo shoots when they should be staying at home.
- A gym open and also posting on instagram they had people working out yesterday morning locally.
- People using the no work/work from home to have parties and people over in the week. Someone I kind of know and follow each other on instagram posted a picture of like 30 people at someones house the other day drinking!


The reason the spread is happening despite the fact it is 2020 are:


1. The governments Just not set to handle this stuff AGAIN and not learned lessons from SARS or Swine Flu.
2. The governments of the world have been too concerned with the finances rather then lives/curbing the issue.
3. People are idiots, to many idiots out there - You can not trust people to do the right thing.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 26, 2020, 06:52:13 AM
Not all the world though. Asia generally has handled this the correct way, with proper policing of quarantine and isolation, surveillance, monitoring, etc. South Korea especially has handled this fantastically, even tracking and hunting down the liars that say they are clean or not going out spreading it. Nothing draconian, just keeping track from day 1 and ensuring it is not allowed to run riot.

The self-absorbed western world full of hubris could learn a lot from the humility the Asian countries show when an epidemic appears. They learned hard and fast from SARS/MERS.

The main thing is that the people themselves abide and realise they must.
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 26, 2020, 15:12:03 PM
Coughing near police officers and claiming you are infected is a crime.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-man-charged-coughing-police-095759802.html

The USA seems to be handling a lot of this by state in an ad-hoc method, so while some are being very responsible others are still doing way too little.

Then others are being idiots, tinfoil hat loons or simply giving advice that is dangerous. One advised that people use a hairdryer to heat their noses to kill the virus.

Of course, Fox news' Sean Hannity got in on the act on multiple occasions and the snake oil sellers are trying to make a few fast bucks from useless or even dangerous "cures"

And I am not kidding about the hairdryer.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/23/idiot-politician-says-pointing-hairdryer-nose-can-stop-coronavirus-12443723/
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Clock'd 0Ne on March 27, 2020, 13:12:23 PM
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/south-korea-coronavirus pretty much what I was talking about before.

Quote
“South Korea is one of the most wired countries in the world, where everybody uses cell phones for just about everything, and [the government] was able to use our cell phones to not only track but send warnings, like ‘watch out, there's a Covid-19 patient in your vicinity.’”
Title: Re: The world has gone mad
Post by: Serious on March 27, 2020, 14:50:10 PM
US now leads world in coronavirus cases. Although it's leading something I doubt if any other country wants.

Still behind with only 1,300 fatalities but they are probably going to be catching up fast. Probably the only reason that more have not died is they tend to die several years earlier than in Italy on average.

Trump is still lying about the situation too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52056586