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on: August 31, 2007, 23:29:23 PM
Holy good f*** what is going on with these???

People claim they arent getting easier.

A mate of mine is a teacher, and gave his A-Level class the 1996 paper as a test. Highest mark in his class was 61%.

Half - thats HALF of the bloody class got A grades at their exams. The NI ones are supposed to be the hardest.

How the f*** does that work?

Joke - thats what it is.

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Reply #1 on: August 31, 2007, 23:39:51 PM
Would have put this in SC tbh.

Oh and it works because the government want the results table to look good.

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Reply #2 on: August 31, 2007, 23:58:13 PM
Its not that theyre getting easier as such - its the fact that today students arent learning a subject theyre learning how to perfect the exam paper theyre given...

Thats the problem.. infact I also know people with professional qualifications like CCNAs CCNPs MCSEs and youll find a lot of these people despite obtaining these qualifications dont know what the f**k theyre talking about.

It sucks... but hey, we all know theres a lot more to a potential job candidate than the letters next to their name.

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Reply #3 on: September 01, 2007, 00:05:47 AM
they also do modular exams - thats got to make things a lot easier

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Reply #4 on: September 01, 2007, 00:58:21 AM
Well you have a point but there is one other thing to account for...

The kids werent taught the syllabus for O-levels.

If you put O=level students through GSCEs they do fairly badly for the same reason.


Personally I do better on O-level based papers as theyre straight right or wrong.  That makes it hard to get low scores in GCSEs as you can always get partial credit but harder at the top end as you have to not only get the answer right but also justify it.

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Reply #5 on: September 01, 2007, 09:37:22 AM
This is A Levels Im talking about - the A- Level syllabus in this particular subject (Maths) hasnt changed much since 1990.

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Reply #6 on: September 01, 2007, 13:57:07 PM
The A level syllabus in maths has changed dramatically over the last few years.  In fact sitting an A level today from different examining boards will have different syllabuses.  This is why first year intakes to universities have such a varied range of knowledge and you essentially have to crash course them through mathematics by reteaching them A-level in the first 3 weeks.

Current A levels do substantially more imaginary numbers, integration, differentiation and stadard deviation statistics.

Old Alevels did much more logs, matrices and translations.


You can check with your mate teacher - the sylabus is very different.  Its not an excuse for the shambles that are A-levels but giving someone a paper from a subject testing a different area to what the kids have been taught will always result in sh*t grades.  At 18, most of them wont have got a broad enough feeling for mathematics to be able to handle general questions (I know I didnt).  But most of them will be better at maths at the moment they take their A-level in it than 90%+ of the poppulation will be.  Ask people on these forums what the point of triple differentiating the time it takes a car to move from point A to point B and the A level candidates will not only know how to do it but also why youre doing it.  Most here wouldnt have a clue (even those who knew it to pass their old A-levels).

For the record though, many schools are on the verge of abandoning A-levels and switching to another examining body.  I forget what its called but theres a competing one thats set to replace it since too many people are getting As.


I seem to remember there being a show on TV called thatll teach them where they summer schooled some A-level grads through the old system and then tested their results using the old tests.  I never saw the end of it but presumably that would give a fair indication of the difference.

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Reply #7 on: September 01, 2007, 14:04:15 PM
C = A
B = A+
A = A *

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Reply #8 on: September 01, 2007, 14:32:24 PM
Ive forgotten everything I got taught at school anyway, so really, whats the point?

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Reply #9 on: September 01, 2007, 15:05:10 PM
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The A level syllabus in maths has changed dramatically over the last few years.  In fact sitting an A level today from different examining boards will have different syllabuses.  This is why first year intakes to universities have such a varied range of knowledge and you essentially have to crash course them through mathematics by reteaching them A-level in the first 3 weeks.

Current A levels do substantially more imaginary numbers, integration, differentiation and stadard deviation statistics.

Old Alevels did much more logs, matrices and translations.


You can check with your mate teacher - the sylabus is very different.  Its not an excuse for the shambles that are A-levels but giving someone a paper from a subject testing a different area to what the kids have been taught will always result in sh*t grades.  At 18, most of them wont have got a broad enough feeling for mathematics to be able to handle general questions (I know I didnt).  But most of them will be better at maths at the moment they take their A-level in it than 90%+ of the poppulation will be.  Ask people on these forums what the point of triple differentiating the time it takes a car to move from point A to point B and the A level candidates will not only know how to do it but also why youre doing it.  Most here wouldnt have a clue (even those who knew it to pass their old A-levels).

For the record though, many schools are on the verge of abandoning A-levels and switching to another examining body.  I forget what its called but theres a competing one thats set to replace it since too many people are getting As.


I seem to remember there being a show on TV called thatll teach them where they summer schooled some A-level grads through the old system and then tested their results using the old tests.  I never saw the end of it but presumably that would give a fair indication of the difference.


Thats the way its always been taught on Northern Ireland board exams. the only places to take english board exams over here were the 6th form colleges or techs where you went if you didnt get good GCSEs - they were always easier than the NICCEA exams.

http://www.rewardinglearning.org.uk/qualifications/results.aspx?g=1&t=1&c=&s=62&v=0

Doesnt look to me to be a whole lot different to what I did? Its just split out a bit more modularly.


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Reply #10 on: September 01, 2007, 15:17:09 PM
Answered my own question - the school did an english exam board exam this year to improve figures. bloody typical.

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Reply #11 on: September 01, 2007, 17:45:02 PM
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Ive forgotten everything I got taught at school anyway, so really, whats the point?


and I cant remember being in school

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Reply #12 on: September 01, 2007, 18:00:41 PM
the memories are starting to fade!!

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