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Reply #90 on: March 25, 2008, 15:06:24 PM
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Metal assumed I had no experience programming, I wrote an entire database for a company within six weeks back on an old 8086 using dos, machine code and basic.




explain how/why you needed to use machine code cos my bullsh*t meter is going off the scale......


I didnt, I could have worked it all in basic. TBH it was a pain in the butt but it gave me some extra speed and when what you have is 8mhz every extra bit helps.

Oh, the bits of code were used in sorting. A good bit of my time was spent changing constants from decimal to hex, this speeds up the process too.

Would have been much easier using the BBC micro to be totally honest.

The last thing I intended to do initially was use machine code, but the problem of the thing slowing down with higher numbers of items in searches meant I had to use any means possible. Learning something like C would have taken me more time than it took to write the stuff anyway.

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Reply #91 on: March 25, 2008, 15:25:27 PM
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--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.


Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

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Reply #92 on: March 25, 2008, 15:26:56 PM
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--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.


Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.


when are you going to sign into msn

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Reply #93 on: March 25, 2008, 20:05:27 PM
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--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.


Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.


If you are considering facebook as a basis for a program. Theres the new VS2008 Express editions with the facebook developer toolkit. Makes it a piece of piss to develop a unique desktop application utilising the facebook platform.

My course was modular. The only things defining what you could do were "required modules" "pre-reqs" and the timetabling. Which effectively means most people of that year in uni, do the same or similar modules.

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Reply #94 on: March 25, 2008, 22:32:26 PM
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--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.


Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

Ahh ok.  I must admit I know very little about the US system.  Itd be a nice little project if you want to go down the web route.  

Data wrapping looks like it will be pretty big soon.  Ive dabbled a bit in writing some systems that inject data into MPEG-47 wrappers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-7) and let you treat the video as an object and then the actors in the movie are objects (i.e. you could link to their biographies on imdb) and the places in the movie are other objects (could link to google maps).  I never bothered following it up and work didnt use it for anything since it was just a demo of what you could do with XML wrapped video streams but I remember thinking at the time - someone should make a website that does this...  If an item appears in the video (like a fancy gadget, watch or clothing item) then they could be tagged with a link to a shop that sold that item.  I saw the latter being a potential way of making money since it would fit well with googles adsense system.  Bike comes on the screen.  Bounce the referral through googles adsense for that bike and voila - pay per click.

It would either work and make money or fail based on useability I guess...

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Reply #95 on: March 25, 2008, 23:03:52 PM
Thats an excellent thought Steve. I can see youtube pouncing on that.

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Reply #96 on: March 25, 2008, 23:32:00 PM
Looks like its similar to Smil with the synchronisation aspect. cool stuff.

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Reply #97 on: March 25, 2008, 23:38:54 PM
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--snip -- Its overkill for a first year final project of course but you seem keen.  It would work well for a 3rd year final thesis as it would be varied, easily broken down into chunks, be based on existing technologies you could reference in the writeup, be very web 3.0/contextual orientated, have social networking stuff and be technically challenging enough with data harvesting, database gubbins and front end coding.


Thanks, there are some good suggestions in there.

However one side point - it doesnt really work in 1/2/3 year things like it does here. Its modular, and you can pick and choose any classes you want in any order from any department, assuming you have the pre-reqs, and assuming by the end you have fulfilled the requirements of your major.

Ahh ok.  I must admit I know very little about the US system.  Itd be a nice little project if you want to go down the web route.  

Data wrapping looks like it will be pretty big soon.  Ive dabbled a bit in writing some systems that inject data into MPEG-47 wrappers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-7) and let you treat the video as an object and then the actors in the movie are objects (i.e. you could link to their biographies on imdb) and the places in the movie are other objects (could link to google maps).  I never bothered following it up and work didnt use it for anything since it was just a demo of what you could do with XML wrapped video streams but I remember thinking at the time - someone should make a website that does this...  If an item appears in the video (like a fancy gadget, watch or clothing item) then they could be tagged with a link to a shop that sold that item.  I saw the latter being a potential way of making money since it would fit well with googles adsense system.  Bike comes on the screen.  Bounce the referral through googles adsense for that bike and voila - pay per click.

It would either work and make money or fail based on useability I guess...


Cool suggestion with the video, it again is basically semantic websites and date and the use of xml and ajax and the server side language. The concept has been around for a while but only finally showing signs of taking off but the OO concept and the video etc here is a good idea.
This was what I was trying to say in regard to the picture site but a certain person could not get their head around it, seemed to complicated

it is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread

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Reply #98 on: March 26, 2008, 11:08:57 AM
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it is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread


Yes it is nexus... disappointing.

While I love how I can have such an effect on you, I think youll find my opinion of your idea has not changed, MPEG-7 has nothing to do with AJAX, or server side languages, nor a website even. There is such a thing as dropping a subject when it becomes too tiresome.

Your idea = crap.
Steves idea = using new technology in an innovative way.

They are completely different.

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Reply #99 on: March 26, 2008, 11:25:50 AM
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it is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread


Yes it is nexus... disappointing.

While I love how I can have such an effect on you, I think youll find my opinion of your idea has not changed, MPEG-7 has nothing to do with AJAX, or server side languages, nor a website even. There is such a thing as dropping a subject when it becomes too tiresome.

Your idea = crap.
Steves idea = using new technology in an innovative way.

They are completely different.


I honestly do not care or mind an opinion on an idea and not the point a mature and relevent to the read post would have been as I already mentioned but you were not intending that and from other comments made on this thread to others as well as in general it is clear.
Steve idea, same as mine added to video rather then images So clear you either do not understand the actual technology (bar the video bit which is of course harder then objects on images) or do not care and just being an arse, either case in this thread and in general on tek your an arse again at the moment and I am not the only one thinking or saying it.

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Reply #100 on: March 26, 2008, 19:00:13 PM
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it is again disappointing to see others just waffling and bashing other posters because they feel like it spoiling a thread


Yes it is nexus... disappointing.

While I love how I can have such an effect on you, I think youll find my opinion of your idea has not changed, MPEG-7 has nothing to do with AJAX, or server side languages, nor a website even. There is such a thing as dropping a subject when it becomes too tiresome.

Your idea = crap.
Steves idea = using new technology in an innovative way.

They are completely different.


I honestly do not care or mind an opinion on an idea and not the point a mature and relevent to the read post would have been as I already mentioned but you were not intending that and from other comments made on this thread to others as well as in general it is clear.
Steve idea, same as mine added to video rather then images So clear you either do not understand the actual technology (bar the video bit which is of course harder then objects on images) or do not care and just being an arse, either case in this thread and in general on tek your an arse again at the moment and I am not the only one thinking or saying it.


What image compression tech allows the embedding of xml metadata (not exif) inside of it? If there is one, and you know it then let me know, but as far as im aware only MPEG appears to offer it.

Youre talking about a database of data linked to images by "tagging"... all database action.

Steve is on about embedded data as part of the video stream, allowing interaction in many different ways.

Best example I can think of is imagine MHEG having this capability... set top boxes all of a sudden able to give information about the products found in a program, prime advertising potential. Useful for youtube, useful for STBs, useful for supermarket demonstrations.

Videos can all of a sudden contain context sensitive data relating to elements within the video. It doesnt need to be "associated" with data, it contains all the associations inside of it. Its a huge application.

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Reply #101 on: March 26, 2008, 23:15:15 PM
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i dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.


http://www.discogs.com/ any good?

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Reply #102 on: March 26, 2008, 23:31:04 PM
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i dont know if it allready exsists but ive always thought a music version of imdb would be good.


http://www.discogs.com/ any good?


http://www.allmusic.com that is the daddy of music sites, very usefull site to know when you want to know some useless info a band

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