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Title: You have to leave the north
Post by: Sam on August 13, 2008, 12:02:23 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7556937.stm
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Beaker on August 13, 2008, 12:32:52 PM
god no.  Most people wouldnt be able to get enough extra wages to pay for the same standard of living.  The number of people I know who have moved to London, then back up north just isnt funny.
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Quixoticish on August 13, 2008, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: Beaker
god no.  Most people wouldnt be able to get enough extra wages to pay for the same standard of living.  The number of people I know who have moved to London, then back up north just isnt funny.


A think tank that are traditionally seem as supporters of the tories come out with this study just as David Cameron is visiting places in the North.....

Far too convenient to be honest. There are obvious political machinations at work behind the scenes.
Title: You have to leave the north
Post by: Edd on August 13, 2008, 13:07:36 PM
I read that, i think its complete bollocks

id much rather live in liverpool or manchester rather than london or somewhere else darn sarf
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: mr_roll on August 13, 2008, 17:51:17 PM
Even the think tank them selfs think its stupid. Thats just a contradiction. I think its the most pointless think tank in the world and should be given a job in some menial government department so they cant cause any more trouble and live their lives until they die in the same job.
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: BigSoy on August 13, 2008, 19:04:56 PM
Think Id be annoyed being grouped together with Sunderland and Bradford if I was Liverpool.

Im an exiled Northerner in the smoke, and it is awesome to be fair. Biggest thing it has in its favour is the majority of people dont drive to work, so much more social atmosphere in the week.

As pointed out though, you have to be able to earn the greens to support the lifestyle. Otherwise itd be a crap place to be.
Title: You have to leave the north
Post by: Poison_UK on August 13, 2008, 20:17:13 PM
It was just on the Channel 4 news, Sunderland council leaders are well and truly pissed off.
Title: You have to leave the north
Post by: Leon on August 13, 2008, 22:33:10 PM
I moved from Midlands to the smoke for 2 years and hated it most of the time, sure going out was great but working, traveling and living wasnt :P

Would much rather live and work up north
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Serious on August 14, 2008, 00:04:15 AM
I perfer living As far north of the south as reasonably possible :)
Title: You have to leave the north
Post by: knighty on August 14, 2008, 10:42:30 AM
pah, Im too fond of working 1/2 a mile away from the city center... and being able to drive into work in the morning in 15 min ;)
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Dave on August 14, 2008, 22:42:48 PM
fair enough IMO - wages are crap in the rest of the UK
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Beaker on August 14, 2008, 22:47:35 PM
Quote from: Dave
fair enough IMO - wages are crap in the rest of the UK


Of course they are.  Thats why I earn the same as the guys in London doing exactly the same same job.  
Title: You have to leave the north
Post by: knighty on August 15, 2008, 01:13:39 AM
actually, reading between the lines it sounds more like the think tank are trying to slag off current government policies... its just been turned around onto them by the politicians
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Sam on August 15, 2008, 20:31:09 PM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Dave
fair enough IMO - wages are crap in the rest of the UK


Of course they are.  Thats why I earn the same as the guys in London doing exactly the same same job.  


Hes right in the higher end salaries though. And theres less career moves outside of London. If you want to be in finance, software development, etc London is the place. Its the only place in Europe that can really compete with NYC.
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2008, 01:47:12 AM
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Dave
fair enough IMO - wages are crap in the rest of the UK


Of course they are.  Thats why I earn the same as the guys in London doing exactly the same same job.  


well minimum wage is the same all over the UK  :P

just kidding

It depends what you do really but in general, for professional level work, wages are a lot better in London and tbh.. quite a few banking jobs dont really exist outside the city/canary wharf - it is an international city so for wages/cost of living its better to compare with the likes of Tokyo, NY, etc... than other UK cities.
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: soopahfly on August 16, 2008, 02:55:00 AM
London wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt for the natives.

Laaandaaan, and Daarn Sarf.  Cant speak properly to save their lives.
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Beaker on August 16, 2008, 03:16:28 AM
Quote from: Dave
Quote from: Beaker
Quote from: Dave
fair enough IMO - wages are crap in the rest of the UK


Of course they are.  Thats why I earn the same as the guys in London doing exactly the same same job.  


well minimum wage is the same all over the UK  :P

just kidding

It depends what you do really but in general, for professional level work, wages are a lot better in London and tbh.. quite a few banking jobs dont really exist outside the city/canary wharf - it is an international city so for wages/cost of living its better to compare with the likes of Tokyo, NY, etc... than other UK cities.


this is the point though.  If you want to be in finance then you pretty much have to live in London, but you can make a perfectly good living, and have all the modern luxuries you want even if you dont live in London.  One thing I have observed from people who live there is that they seem to think that the rest of the UK is still cooking over the fireplace, and walking to The Mill every morning to spin cotton.  It annoys me that they think that outside of London the world ends.  
Title: Re:You have to leave the north
Post by: Dave on August 16, 2008, 11:16:45 AM
you do get that sometimes - Ive lived, over the years, in Cardiff, Solihull, Sheffield and London - If I was a doctor, teacher anything else involving fairly fixed pay grades Id probably go for one of the first three over London tbh.... It does depend a lot on what you do.

For the average person with an average-ish wage I reckon living in a suburb outside somewhere like Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds etc... probably offers the better quality of life.