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Chat => General Discussion => Topic started by: knighty on February 28, 2008, 22:13:39 PM
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when did you come back :o
(I missed it)
.... how are you / what you been up to ?
any intel. on the outside world ?
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I recognise that alias...
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I see no zpyder :tinhat:
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zipitydoodar... or something like that... brb ;)
edit, yeah zippitydoodaa
http://www.tekforums.co.uk/user/profile/446.page
cant beleave Im the first one to notice.... post dates go back a few days....
this might sound kinda gay, but of all the forum members who have come and gone, zpyder is the only one who I think "I wonder what hes up to now" about :o
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Actually I did think there was something in the name (Sam always called him zippy :lol: ).
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Yeah I must admmit I often wondered what Zpyder was up to. He was always throwing some random stuff around - predator sequences, tropical fish, avator animation, etc. Totally hadnt realised he was back
Anyway - welcome back fella! :D
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Love your animation zpyder like the stop motion with aragon
http://www.zpyder.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27&Itemid=29
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I remember him before on the old "BigForums" when i first registered back in 2003. Theres loads of guys who were on there then who arnt here now!
Liam
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zipitydoodar... or something like that... brb ;)
edit, yeah zippitydoodaa
http://www.tekforums.co.uk/user/profile/446.page
cant beleave Im the first one to notice.... post dates go back a few days....
Registration date: 22/10/2007 10:19:39
So hes been hovering for some time, I avoided saying anything previously but I did post in the mods room earlier before I noticed this.
His avatar and the link in his sig gives it away.
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Awww come back Zpyder...
Not great on his profile:
Interests: Forgetting about this place
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Awww come back Zpyder...
Not great on his profile:
Interests: Forgetting about this place
Some people here were not very nice to him.
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Well if he will post crap about wanting to hurt women... then I dont think anyone should be nice to him.
Good riddance to be honest and brutal.
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Well if he will post crap about wanting to hurt women... then I dont think anyone should be nice to him.
Good riddance to be honest and brutal.
Where is that thread ?
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Well if he will post crap about wanting to hurt women... then I dont think anyone should be nice to him.
Good riddance to be honest and brutal.
Where is that thread ?
It was the thread he left over.
He posted that he wished he could hurt a woman, because she was being difficult/mean towards him. I told him he was a twat in more words than that obviously, he left. This was a looonnnnnggg thread, that was lost in the first database wipe.
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Phrase of the day: subjective evaluation.
This isnt real life or Eastenders, its a f**king internet forum where people talk about PC stuff and youtube. M3t, ask yourself how many ppl with post counts like yours (or mine) have the guts or know-how to play girlies. It was kinda funny but at lesat Zpyder was trying. fwiw people post about wanting to hurt GWB or punching starving africans or whatever, if you take that sorta stuff seriously what level are your social skills?
No offense.
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Phrase of the day: subjective evaluation.
This isnt real life or Eastenders, its a f**king internet forum where people talk about PC stuff and youtube. M3t, ask yourself how many ppl with post counts like yours (or mine) have the guts or know-how to play girlies. It was kinda funny but at lesat Zpyder was trying. fwiw people post about wanting to hurt GWB or punching starving africans or whatever, if you take that sorta stuff seriously what level are your social skills?
No offense.
None taken :)
If I remember correctly there was something disturbing about the way it was said. Hence me (and others mind you) saying that hes a twat.
As for playing girlies... hey man, I aint a player, but then again I dont require assistance in speaking to women. Granted im sure there are others here who dont have nearly as much luck, nor are as comfortable with it, but they do have the sense not to actually provide ammo for people to say "wtf... dude are you really that much of a social pariah? - christ... get the f**k out more".
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I vaguely remember the thread and he said some sketchy things about what the girl deserved despite her not doing much wrong. I assumed he was just in the moment or joking tbh. Hadnt realized hed left for a reason - thought hed just got lost in the port 80/bigforums mess. Dont take offence on forums - argue, laugh, learn, whatever but you shouldnt care about any of it the next day
M3t, ask yourself how many ppl with post counts like yours (or mine) have the guts or know-how to play girlies.
slightly off topic but I dont think the two relate. I suspect we have a fairly broad cross section on here. At a guess its probably biased slightly to the inept but I bet its not that bad. Its largely looks and confidence driven which isnt that related to your hobbies/job.
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In answer to this thread...
...Since leaving I realised over the last few years I have a slight obsessive personality (addiction to the forum back then, and other things since) so I don’t think staying active here is a good idea.
The reason I “came back” (In disguise (the avatar and signature change were a subtle hint this time)) was due to ETGS issues a while ago (Their site was down yet again and I needed to know what the score was - Thankfully changed hosts now)
Since then I’ve occasionally checked back as I still rate this place as being a useful consumer review resource for things like ISP’s. Can’t say the same about other things though...
...and to clear things up with the whole leaving thing...
...whatever happened back then? Sadly the database wipe has lost record of what happened and no doubt different people will recall different things...my recollection is that there was a certain person at Un who I initially thought of as a friend. One of two out of about 60-70 course mates...that kinda sucked.
This person had a tendency of saying malicious things in a very confrontational manner. My real world self being the meek person I am, couldn’t handle these situations nor respond to them as they occurred. Neither did I want to do anything to reduce that friendship to 1 or possibly even 0. I was stuck.
The forums were a form of vent for me, where I could verbally reason out things that were on my mind. I guess a kind of forum based rant blog almost...and much like people entertain visions of recklessly driven cars spinning out of control infront of them as a form of retribution for them breaking various laws and yourself driving sensibly, I stated my mind on the scenario I was facing. It just so happened that this mental scenario about a bully, involved a girl, and certain members took offence to this.
As I said...it was a form of vent, there were several ideas that popped into my head after several incidents, which were discussed in the thread, in the process relieving me of some of the pressure I was facing dealing with this person. It just so happened that one or two of those ideas struck a little close to home for some members perhaps.
Some people may have thought that I might actually carry them out as well (I recall the problem was the suggestion of showing her the malicious and hateful vent thread that I had created). Whereas dreams of ramming that car that just cut you up are obviously never going to happen, sending someone a link to a website is a bit too feasible.
Sooo...things were said, rightly or wrongly I still don’t know. I wanted to believe that over the years on the forums, people had gotten to know me, and known what my personality was like. They would have known there was a kind of split life going on...the socially inept quiet zpyder in the real world, and the zpyder who detailed these things and how he felt about them on the internet. Sadly when your refuge from your real world problems ends up also becoming one of those problems, there’s nowhere else to go, and so I left.
The curse of this place was that though 9/10 times it was an awesome, witty community, that other 1 time there’s someone ‘strongly disagreeing’ with someone else. The problem with this is that neither party will ever admit they were wrong, and so things get worse until one of them stops. I had issues with insults which I felt were unjustified, the other party felt that they were. I still don’t know how I could actually make them see why I believe they weren’t (in my opinion) and still aren’t...anything I could say would likely deliberately be read with a negative bias by them. My reasoning for myself not justifying the insults is the following example...if someone violently attacked a family member, I’d find it strange for anyone to not wish that their attacker didn’t get a taste of their own medicine. They won’t enact their desire for revenge, but it’s there. I merely publicised my feelings as a method of dealing with them.
There’s not much more I can say on the subject I guess. I guess an update on what happened next is in order...I left the forums...finished that year at uni...’she’ failed the year and did not resit...life got easier. None of this had anything to do with me I hasten to add, I knuckled down and got on with it all.
In the time between then and now, I have new friends...and they’re all girls haha, who would have thought it. The rest of the course clique are still a group unto their own. Learning the workings of my personality has let me slowly improve my social skills though I still have a way to go. Career wise I still find it easier to get on with older generations, which has been a benefit as I’ve integrated with the environmental lecturers and technicians, landing a couple of contracts over the last 6 months.
And that’s that. I guess.
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hear hear... its good to see you at last living life and coping better. I think I mentioned around the time of the thread Id happily buy you a beer, and Id gladly do that.
The profile youve made here doesnt exactly reflect what youve said above however hence my doubt in any improvement.
Kudos and all the best.
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Dont get me wrong. I want to forget about this place. Not out of maliciousness, but out of my learning about my obsessiveness. If I stayed, Id likely end up degenerating again and spending more time than I should here than elsewhere.
But heres a question for you. Does it make you feel good to Roast what you yourself called a social reject of a nerd, for wanting to go stella on a lass though even by definition such a nerd would probably snap like a twig should he try do so?
My issue that resulted in leaving was not with any of the "you should get out more" comments, I whole heartedly agreed with those. But the degeneration to Twat was the slap in the face I think. I was honestly shocked at the time that someone could feel that way to end up calling me that, as I thought youd have known that I was and still am pretty harmless and was just frustrated with the situation! Nevermind though, its said and done. I think everyone has established what they think on the matter heh.
I would have to turn down your offer of a beer as one of the obsessiveness things I learnt was alcoholism. Even though I started off hating the stuff (Not sure if I had left when I started drinking) but I progressively started drinking more, ended up having to nip it in the bud as I realised I was going to end up like my father otherwise.
I could try and stick around, as an experiment, but not sure what would happen to be honest. This place is a little too vocal and Ill end up getting sucked back in no doubt.
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Well theres a lot of nostalgia flying around at the moment and its good to see an old hand back, so I hope you post some more - the trick is to remember not to take threads too seriously and its something everyone needs to remember at one time or another on here, myself included. At least you two seem to be able to get along now :mrgreen:
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Glad youre getting life sorted out. Its a lot quieter around here these days so there is a limited amount of time you can actually spend here now, but Im sure a lot of the "old crew" would be happy to see you back. Arguments happen and in a forum such as this things get taken out of context. Too many good people have moved on from here and weve seen some good new people arrive.
I think we all want you to do whats best for yourself, if you can stick around and make it work, thats cool. If you need to keep away or be faced with regressing, no-one wants to force you.
Whichever you decide, all the best.
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Well see!
Ill see about sticking aroundish. Its looking like I might end up going back to my computing roots a little and specialising in Spatial Information Science, which isnt great! I might end up needing technical expertise...
The best way to describe my current situation would be like the main character at the end of "Office Space" - A computer dude that was stressed out with it all, finding peace doing construction...Im loving the more down to earth science involving trudging around protected heathland collecting invertebrate samples for the RSPB and the likes, rather than my old computing "nerd" life...so thats the construction thing. I just dont have Jennifer Aniston as a girlfriend sadly...
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P.S.
Any chance of getting my old nick back?
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Ill happily change it for you if you want. Just PM me.
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I think the concern was you might turn into the guy who burnt the building down in office space in that last thread. From most it was concern iirc
And yeah theres not enough traffic on this board now to get too sucked in. Glad youre well tho mate!
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But that guy was so cool.
And hey, look at where he got at the end of the day, tropical island with loads of money...
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bahhhh... screw that old stuff from before.... that was aggggges ago 8)
plus, no one listens to metalhead anymore anyway ;)
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But that guy was so cool.
And hey, look at where he got at the end of the day, tropical island with loads of money...
...carefully places the stapler back on the desk :D
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I would have to turn down your offer of a beer as one of the obsessiveness things I learnt was alcoholism. Even though I started off hating the stuff (Not sure if I had left when I started drinking) but I progressively started drinking more, ended up having to nip it in the bud as I realised I was going to end up like my father otherwise.
I could try and stick around, as an experiment, but not sure what would happen to be honest. This place is a little too vocal and Ill end up getting sucked back in no doubt.
IIRC you had just tried some alcoholic drink, hated it and had asked for a few suggestions as you thought it would help when out with people, I believe the common suggestion was cider.
are the tek forums flash mini series still about anywhere ?
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welcome back :wave:
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One of the old versions of the site has them still accessible: http://zpyder.co.uk/animation/flash.html
They didnt make it into the new version though as I didnt see myself coming back and random visitors to my site wont have a clue whats going on in em...
As to the alcohol...I slowly got on to the beer. Started off with Becks and then Corona, pretty much anything was alright. Wasnt exactly a problem but started to be drinking every day. There was no need and my father has a problem, so figured Id stop whilst I could. Only just started drinking a guiness on a friday night to unwind again...
haha, lapsing into my old "let everything out on the net" self! Its too easy to do...
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Eh, quite important to remember that outward signs of confidence/masculinity/net-blinkers often form a thin crust around a juicy centre of personal issues - I wouldnt take every roasting at face value if I were you. :)
Also - just as an aside - learn to appreciate your self-awareness - its a quality which will actually stand you in good stead for success in a lot of areas of life in the long run. (IMO).
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In answer to this thread...
...Since leaving I realised over the last few years I have a slight obsessive personality (addiction to the forum back then, and other things since) so I don’t think staying active here is a good idea.
The reason I “came back” (In disguise (the avatar and signature change were a subtle hint this time)) was due to ETGS issues a while ago (Their site was down yet again and I needed to know what the score was - Thankfully changed hosts now)
Since then I’ve occasionally checked back as I still rate this place as being a useful consumer review resource for things like ISP’s. Can’t say the same about other things though...
...and to clear things up with the whole leaving thing...
...whatever happened back then? Sadly the database wipe has lost record of what happened and no doubt different people will recall different things...my recollection is that there was a certain person at Un who I initially thought of as a friend. One of two out of about 60-70 course mates...that kinda sucked.
This person had a tendency of saying malicious things in a very confrontational manner. My real world self being the meek person I am, couldn’t handle these situations nor respond to them as they occurred. Neither did I want to do anything to reduce that friendship to 1 or possibly even 0. I was stuck.
The forums were a form of vent for me, where I could verbally reason out things that were on my mind. I guess a kind of forum based rant blog almost...and much like people entertain visions of recklessly driven cars spinning out of control infront of them as a form of retribution for them breaking various laws and yourself driving sensibly, I stated my mind on the scenario I was facing. It just so happened that this mental scenario about a bully, involved a girl, and certain members took offence to this.
As I said...it was a form of vent, there were several ideas that popped into my head after several incidents, which were discussed in the thread, in the process relieving me of some of the pressure I was facing dealing with this person. It just so happened that one or two of those ideas struck a little close to home for some members perhaps.
Some people may have thought that I might actually carry them out as well (I recall the problem was the suggestion of showing her the malicious and hateful vent thread that I had created). Whereas dreams of ramming that car that just cut you up are obviously never going to happen, sending someone a link to a website is a bit too feasible.
Sooo...things were said, rightly or wrongly I still don’t know. I wanted to believe that over the years on the forums, people had gotten to know me, and known what my personality was like. They would have known there was a kind of split life going on...the socially inept quiet zpyder in the real world, and the zpyder who detailed these things and how he felt about them on the internet. Sadly when your refuge from your real world problems ends up also becoming one of those problems, there’s nowhere else to go, and so I left.
The curse of this place was that though 9/10 times it was an awesome, witty community, that other 1 time there’s someone ‘strongly disagreeing’ with someone else. The problem with this is that neither party will ever admit they were wrong, and so things get worse until one of them stops. I had issues with insults which I felt were unjustified, the other party felt that they were. I still don’t know how I could actually make them see why I believe they weren’t (in my opinion) and still aren’t...anything I could say would likely deliberately be read with a negative bias by them. My reasoning for myself not justifying the insults is the following example...if someone violently attacked a family member, I’d find it strange for anyone to not wish that their attacker didn’t get a taste of their own medicine. They won’t enact their desire for revenge, but it’s there. I merely publicised my feelings as a method of dealing with them.
There’s not much more I can say on the subject I guess. I guess an update on what happened next is in order...I left the forums...finished that year at uni...’she’ failed the year and did not resit...life got easier. None of this had anything to do with me I hasten to add, I knuckled down and got on with it all.
In the time between then and now, I have new friends...and they’re all girls haha, who would have thought it. The rest of the course clique are still a group unto their own. Learning the workings of my personality has let me slowly improve my social skills though I still have a way to go. Career wise I still find it easier to get on with older generations, which has been a benefit as I’ve integrated with the environmental lecturers and technicians, landing a couple of contracts over the last 6 months.
And that’s that. I guess.
erm... its the internet fella. To many people take the internet seriously
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erm... its the internet fella. To many people take the internet seriously
Different strokes for different folks egg, just because you can switch off and believe that "its just the internet" others cant and see it as just a valid means of communication as phone or face to face contact, there is no right or wrong. The idea that "its just the internet" is usually the party line towed by people who find it easy to get lost in the faceless, expressionless text and forget that there is actually a human being at the other end typing these things in who doesnt hold the same beliefs as you.
Now Im not pointing fingers at anyone (before anyone decides to get hissy), (Im just making a point), but the people who throw their weight around on internet forums as some people do on Tek generally wouldnt behave this way face to face or even on the phone to other people. Of course youll never admit it and jump in with a lot of bravado spouting nonsense like "of course Id treat people like that in the real world!" But the truth is you wouldnt because you pretty much would not be able to function as a member of society if you were so anti-social. So its important to keep in mind that there are those who act on the premise that they are actually communicating with other people and can get a bit upset when insulted (especially if they arent very thick skinned), and then there are those who hide behind the relative anonymity of the internet and forget about the human element.
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I think the difference is in real life you dont wade from one sensitive topic to another every 60 seconds. Thats the only real difference. You wouldnt be in so many of these conversations in real life but I believe people are speaking their minds.
I dont believe people are more harsh. I think a Lot of the time youd have walked away a lot earlier or not bothered speaking to those people again which is the difference. I know I speak the same and suspect egg does if he was pressed on a point
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My thoughts on the subject is that typing to a screen rather than talking to a face lowers the persons inhibition to saying things he/she would otherwise not say in real life. Certainly that was the case for me. Around people I dont know (most people) Im a calm collected person who doesnt really speak out of turn, if at all, nor do I misbehave.. On the internet any fear of repercussion is minimal, leading to more passionate and active behaviour, if such a thing is possible in the virtual world.
Maybe part of the problem is that in real life, people out and about entering into discussions and arguments naturally have their guard up, from an animal instinct point of view. Theyre out in the environment, danger can come from anywhere, you have to be wary. Most people on the internet are in their comfort zone, theyre safe, theyre at home, theyre in control of their domain. When someone starts to disgree strongly with them via a forum or some such thing, its a bit of a shock as its a pseudo intrusion into your comfort zone, the person is no longer in charge of what is going on in their sphere of influence, and so things degenerate.
Thats my attempt at pyschobabble anyway.
Maybe a shorter explanation is that it does sort of take more effort to communicate on the net in real life...its easier to say "youre wrong" with your voice, than on the net, where you have to click things, type several letters, and click some more. Therefore communication on the net could be mostly based off of what people are more passionate about. When youre passionate about things, negative actions against those things hurt all the more. People may not be more harsh on the net, but negative things may be interpreted more strongly...
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Now Im not pointing fingers at anyone (before anyone decides to get hissy), (Im just making a point), but the people who throw their weight around on internet forums as some people do on Tek generally wouldnt behave this way face to face or even on the phone to other people. Of course youll never admit it and jump in with a lot of bravado spouting nonsense like "of course Id treat people like that in the real world!"
dont know if Im included in this but I do treat people exactly how I treat people on here
I dont directly insult people on here and I rarely do in real life - but I can be an argumentative pedantic git in real life too - this includes dealing with clients and is generally a useful way to deal with the completely retarded ones or else their issue or rather non-issue will drag on for weeks and get escalated to project managers etc.. a quick phone call to say youre being a spastic, why do you see this as an issue? generally stumps the clueless ones whove simply forwarded on something their user moaned about without understanding it themselves. Without telling them to piss off a lot of development time would be wasted.
Only difference is that things can be said over the phone in a more jovial way whereas on a forum tone of voice etc.. is non existent and people can read abrupt replies as being aggressive etc..
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To be honest we could do far worse than an ignore function on the boards, (is that possible with the current forum software?) Ive used it before on other forums and its wonderful not having to see the posts from people on the ignore list. Admittedly it does often muck up the flow of a thread however its benefits outweigh the gains.
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Now Im not pointing fingers at anyone (before anyone decides to get hissy), (Im just making a point), but the people who throw their weight around on internet forums as some people do on Tek generally wouldnt behave this way face to face or even on the phone to other people. Of course youll never admit it and jump in with a lot of bravado spouting nonsense like "of course Id treat people like that in the real world!"
dont know if Im included in this but I do treat people exactly how I treat people on here
I dont directly insult people on here and I rarely do in real life - but I can be an argumentative pedantic git in real life too - this includes dealing with clients and is generally a useful way to deal with the completely retarded ones or else their issue or rather non-issue will drag on for weeks and get escalated to project managers etc.. a quick phone call to say youre being a spastic, why do you see this as an issue? generally stumps the clueless ones whove simply forwarded on something their user moaned about without understanding it themselves. Without telling them to piss off a lot of development time would be wasted.
Only difference is that things can be said over the phone in a more jovial way whereas on a forum tone of voice etc.. is non existent and people can read abrupt replies as being aggressive etc..
same here & I im not afraid to mouth off even if it offends people. Some people call me a bastard for doing so, but they do give me kudos for being a fair bastard.
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I think the difference is in real life you dont wade from one sensitive topic to another every 60 seconds. Thats the only real difference. You wouldnt be in so many of these conversations in real life but I believe people are speaking their minds.
I dont believe people are more harsh. I think a Lot of the time youd have walked away a lot earlier or not bothered speaking to those people again which is the difference. I know I speak the same and suspect egg does if he was pressed on a point
This man has it down to a tee. Exactly my "issue" I dont dilly dally or hold back the blows on the internet as to be quite frank about it the people on here arent anything to do with my worklife, nor social life. I can afford to ruffle a few feathers at no cost to myself.
I speak my mind more freely as I have no necessity to pander to anyone elses views, nor even feel as if I have to stay in the realms of PC.
So yes theres a difference. Steve has pretty much explained my entire ethos of "life on the net" as it were.
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hey zpyder, good to see your alive and doing ok
good to see you posting, would be good if you hung around its a bit quiet at the moment... a little tooo quiet hehe